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IrishBuckeye Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:31 PM
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Private Healthcare becomes illegal under Healthcare Bill
Was sent this email, can someone clear this up?
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When we first saw the paragraph Tuesday, just after the 1,018-page document was released, we thought we surely must be misreading it. So we sought help from the House Ways and Means Committee.

It turns out we were right: The provision would indeed outlaw individual private coverage. Under the Orwellian header of "Protecting The Choice To Keep Current Coverage," the "Limitation On New Enrollment" section of the bill clearly states:

"Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day" of the year the legislation becomes law.

So we can all keep our coverage, just as promised — with, of course, exceptions: Those who currently have private individual coverage won't be able to change it. Nor will those who leave a company to work for themselves be free to buy individual plans from private carriers.


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http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=332548165656854
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cdsilv Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:33 PM
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1. can't buy into plans that were grandfathered in and don't meet the standards set by the bill.....
...something like that.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:34 PM
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2. There's no defending that provision; it kills private insurance, plainly nt
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:41 PM
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3. That's kind of how it seems to me.
"...the individual health insurance issuer... does not enroll any individual... on or after the first day of the year the legislation becomes law."
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:47 PM
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5. Read post no. 1
That sums it up...

Once the bill passes, no new healthcare plans will be issued under the old (grandfathered) policies. New healthcare policies will have to be issued under the new guidelines.

That's all...
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:47 PM
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4. It's another right-wing lie
NO plan that's in Congress, including HR676 - Single Payer would "outlaw private health insurance".

HR676 would make it illegal to sell the same basic plan as the single-payer plan (everybody in, nobody out -- that's how single-payer works in the civilized world) but insurers would be free to sell luxury add-on coverages to the rich if they care to.

Big Right-Wing Lie...
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:50 PM
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7. I beg to differ
The difference is being insured by the government vs. privately insured, regardless of add-ons. The bill plainly cuts off the ability of private insurance to compete against the government. I don't think that will sit well with a lot of people who prefer to be privately insured.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:48 PM
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6. most of the crap in that bill was designed
to kill single-payer and shovel more money at the health insurance mafia, big pharma and GE...
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:51 PM
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8. This is all bull


There will be a health care exchange where you can compare and pick any plan you want ... this has been made very clear.

From BS from the article ...lies lies lies:

"With HSAs out of the way, a key obstacle to the left's expansion of the welfare state will be removed.

The public option won't be an option for many, but rather a mandate for buying government care. A free people should be outraged at this advance of soft tyranny.

Washington does not have the constitutional or moral authority to outlaw private markets in which parties voluntarily participate. It shouldn't be killing business opportunities, or limiting choices, or legislating major changes in Americans' lives"


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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:54 PM
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9. I suggest you read the bill, don't rely on second hand information.
try OpenCongress.org

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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 07:26 PM
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10. already debunked n/t
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