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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 01:32 AM
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Ascent of Money on PBS blindsided me tonight.
It's been a sprightly, amusing, informative show on the history of our financial. Until tonight.

Tonight Ascent of Money told me how wonderful it was that Pinochet destroyed Chile's failed welfare state upon the suicide of Allende and replaced it with, as far as I could tell, with the horrific nonsense that Bush wanted to do with our Social Security money. All through the great advice and wisdom of Milton Friedman and the Chicago Boys. And look, after ten years, Pinochet stepped down voluntarily and democracy was restored SO IT'S ALL GOOD!

I supposed it was wrong of me to turn the channel then. After all, the Chicago Boys saved Chile! I should have waited to see how they save America.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 01:34 AM
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1. "Suicide of Allende"?
Can the lies be any more blatant?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 01:38 AM
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3. Oh, you noticed that, too?
I thought I'd gone insane for a second. But really, the narrator was quite sure. Even pleased that Allende realized the economic hopelessness his horrid welfare state had brought to Chile.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 01:36 AM
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2. There has to be a special place in hell for Milton Friedman n/t
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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 01:44 AM
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4. It's happening again right now in Honduras.
Edited on Thu Jul-23-09 01:45 AM by Billy Burnett
The dark American corporate (and government) forces at work again in Central America.

Check DU Latin America forum. It's being covered quite well there.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=405

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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 01:48 AM
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5. Yeah, I was really pissed when he did that.
If I remember, he actually said that all the horror of Pinochet was "worth it" because of the free market paradise he created.
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Grey Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 02:22 AM
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6. Revisionist history.
The earlier piece about insurance was interesting.
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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:13 PM
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7. Yes, I was thoroughly enjoying
this program from the start, until last night's episode. Yes, it was Pinochet who saved capitalism from the evil hands of that commie Allende and only at the cost of a few tens of thousands of lives of innocent Chileans who simply disappeared. That's the problem with us pinko liberals, we always have to nit pick at everything and just can't appreciate the big picture. :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 04:47 PM
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8. It's what you'd expect from a Thatcherite historian
A profile, written 2 years before he made the programme:

Niall Ferguson: The empire rebuilder

On the eve of his new television series, the formidable academic and historians' historian argues passionately that the decline and fall of empires was the true cause of the bloody mess that was the 20th century

...
You should have been born to serve the British Empire. But you are trapped inside the body of a man born in the 1960s, so what do you do? You become an ardent Thatcherite - aggressive on the battlefield and the economy. You write 'why oh why?' polemics for the Daily Mail. You eventually quit the insular mother country for the new empire across the Pond. You pour your Protestant work ethic into books, journalism and television, a medium which you never really watch. And you write a lot about empire.
...
'The societies that are industrious are the societies that are more powerful,' he says, his vision that of a pitiless Darwinian struggle. 'I don't think the Protestant work ethic really exists much in England anymore and it's totally absent on the Continent. One of the reasons I like being in the States is that so many of the people around me have the same approach.'
...
Ferguson doesn't care about being unpopular. He has said that America should face up to its imperial responsibilities and occupy Iraq for 40 years. Britain should not have gone to war in 1914 but allowed Germany a mainland empire. The problem with the Treaty of Versailles was not the amount of reparations imposed on Germany, but that they were not collected in full. The British Empire was not all bad, but, in fact, had some rather good points; his book and series on the subject saw him compared to Hitler's propaganda film-maker, Leni Riefenstahl. Now the book and series of The War of the World, which cites the decline of empires as one of the reasons for the 20th-century's unprecedented violence, have already been branded by left-wing journalist Johann Hari as 'startlingly obscene'.
...
As for the right-wing tag, he counters: 'Does it make any difference to David Beckham as a football player whether he votes Conservative or Labour? Of course it doesn't. It's totally irrelevant. In the same way, it's totally irrelevant to how good my work as a historian is that I was strong supporter of Margaret Thatcher.'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2006/jun/18/academicexperts.highereducation
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 04:50 PM
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10. LOL... yes... because football is exactly like judging history
and the politics involved in it.

:crazy:

I have to wonder how many right-wingers are this bad at logic.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 04:48 PM
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9. PBS is such a pale shadow of what it once was...
sad.
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