This is HUGH!!!1!! Municipal water is "socialist"

[northernlights]

Oh my Lord the Highest!!!1!! We're taxed to death to provide the Worthless poor with potable water!!!!! The world is going to come to an end!!!1! The Great Americun Dream is over. :cry: :cry: :scared: :scared: :scared:

Seriously, did providing municipal water -- and charging those who use it -- bring democracy crumbling to its knees?

Did it stop the wealthy and privileged from being "better" than everyone else? No...they still can prove their extra value and superiority :eyes: by drinking Perrier.

We have "socialized" water to ensure potable drinking water to everybody. Is the system perfect? I doubt it. But it sure beats the alternative.

The basics on which life depend -- access to potable water, decent food and HEALTHCARE -- seem to me to top the list as candidates at least for alternatives from the world of Profits.

It worked for water. It's time to take our food back from Monsanto and their ilk. And our health care back from BCBS and their ilk.

[rucky]

1. When I was a kid, and we didn't have water...

we drank dirt.

The poor really have it good in this country.

[marmar]

3. In reference to the banner in your signature......

..... Are you sure his plan includes mental health coverage?

[rucky]

4. He self medicates for that.

It really helps.

[FSogol]

12. You had dirt? n/t

[Javaman]

19. meh, you had dirt, we had to boil the air just to breath it. nt

[marmar]

2. And actually, I think there's an attempt underway to privatize water in Milwaukee.

n/t

[Vinca]

6. Milwaukee is amazing - making money going in and coming out.

The fertilizer Milorganite is made of Milwaukee sewage.

[The River]

5. What About Our Right

to die from dysentery? Won't somebody think of the amoeba?

But you're right. Basic human needs should not be allowed to
be traded as speculative commodities.

[WeDidIt]

7. Worse yet, treating the shit and piss in household waste water so we don't all die of cholera

is also socialist.

[Buzz Clik]

8. "time to take our food back from Monsanto and their ilk" You had a good post going until this.

Municipal water treatment systems are run by a formula. They are standardized, heavily regulated, and have few variants because it's the same stuff day after day, year after year.

If drinking water systems suffered the same sort of insults as field crops (annual invasions of every disease imaginable), you'd be drinking exclusively bottled water -- you know, the commercial "non-socialized" kind.

The problem with swallowing the "Monsanto is the devil" propaganda without thinking is, well, the same problem with not thinking about most things.

[northernlights]

9. water suffers most of the same insults as field crops

including runoff from the field crops, which in certain locations kills rivers and large areas of the sea. And water faces its own set of insults, such as decades of toxic waste dumping.

GMO, overuse of pesticides and chemical fertilizers are wonderful examples of "today's solution creating tomorrow's problems."

A Monsanto exec is the *last* person I want in charge of food safety. ymmv.

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[Odin2005]

11. It's no use arguing with anti-GMO nuts.

[dgibby]

13. So, why don't you educate the rest of us?

You call other posters ignorant, but offer no alternative. Interesting.

[Buzz Clik]

15. I did, but you decided that soil erosion and pesticide runoff ...

... are somehow equivalent to the myriad of plant diseases faced by plant breeders every moment of their careers. They aren't.

If you want to stay on topic, I'll be glad to have a conversation with you.

[dgibby]

18. I did?

Must have been a decision I made in my sleep. I see no evidence that I expressed ANY opinion about this subject at all. Perhaps you'd be good enough to point out what I said that led you to that conclusion?

I am asking for info. You're post indicates you have info that you believe is more informed than other posters on this thread. In fact, you go out of your way to denigrate these other posters, just as you're doing with me by accusing me of decisions I have not made or expressed and of going off topic.

I can only conclude from your posts that you are more interested in insulting the rest of us than engaging in a civilized discussion, Have a nice day.

[Buns_of_Fire]

14. And if one's house catches fire, that "socialist" water will be tapped

from "socialist" fire hydrants by the "socialist" fire department, which probably drove over some of those damned "socialist" paved roads built on "socialist" rights-of-way to get there. I dunno -- this "creeping socialism" stuff sounds pretty dangerous to me.

:sarcasm: <-- as if I needed it, but you never know...

[lpbk2713]

16. That's the last straw, dammit.

I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it any more.

[old mark]

17. In the late 60's there was a huge discussion - bordering on mania -

about adding flouride to drinking water to precent tooth decay. The RWers went NUTS against socialism, communist chemicals in pure American water, you name it. They never left - they are all birthers now.

They are still fucking crazy.

mark

[PVnRT]

20. I wouldn't agree it is socialized necessarily

It's more a case of a monopoly granted by the government to a company to provide services based on rates that a utility commission agrees to. For me, at least, to call it "socialist," it should be run directly by a government agency.