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Thu Jul-23-09 05:06 PM
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Officer Who Arrested Gates Teaches Diversity Class... |
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AP, July 23, 2009 · The white police sergeant criticized by President Barack Obama for arresting black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. in his Massachusetts home is a police academy expert on cultural diversity. MORE... http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106936583&sc=fb&cc=fp
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Thu Jul-23-09 05:08 PM
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Thu Jul-23-09 05:19 PM
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Notice abc news is reporting racist cop gave mouth to mouth to
black man.......waht a racist
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Thu Jul-23-09 06:33 PM
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Mon Jul-27-09 04:28 PM
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50. Hi again, the pizza delivery man is coming soon |
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Thu Jul-23-09 05:09 PM
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2. You couldn't make this shit up! |
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Thu Jul-23-09 05:09 PM
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3. I keep hearing different things |
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Is he an "expert" on racial profiling AND "cultural diversity", or are those just two ways of "describing" his expertise? Whatever, still doesn't mean he acted appropriately in arresting Gates, whether it was race related or not.
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Thu Jul-23-09 05:10 PM
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4. Yeah so, Jeremiah Wright served in the Marines and was LBJ's nurse. . . |
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. . .that stop him from being painted as an anti-white racist who hates America.
Sgt. Crowley may very well not be a racist, but the media gate keepers who make the rules better consistent.
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Thu Jul-23-09 05:10 PM
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5. huh--a white guy is in charge of the diversity class? |
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I wonder about that...
Seems like they could get somebody with a little more experience, perhaps...
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Thu Jul-23-09 05:13 PM
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9. If most the folks he's dealing with are white, there's a logic to it, but I would think that |
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this being team taught would be the way to go.
I spent today in a training session for govt. officials dealing with community groups in MD that included govt. officials and community group leaders and it was team taught.
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Thu Jul-23-09 07:31 PM
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26. Because they are often more effective in communicating issues to other whites |
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Thu Jul-23-09 10:20 PM
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45. Why so quick to judge? |
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I'm a white male, married to an African American female and I've been thinking about getting involved with diversity and promoting diversity in the corporate environment. I feel that I would have a lot to offer.
Who has the most to learn about diversity? whites or non-whites? who would whites be more apt to listen to, to learn about diversity? whites or non-whites.
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Fri Jul-24-09 11:03 AM
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48. i know--as i said, just wondering...n/t |
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Thu Jul-23-09 05:10 PM
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Edited on Thu Jul-23-09 05:12 PM by fascisthunter
oh boy. This could be an episode of the Twighlight Zone.
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Thu Jul-23-09 05:11 PM
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7. "What not to do 101" n/t |
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Thu Jul-23-09 05:12 PM
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8. You can't make up this stuff. Writes its own punchline. nt |
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Thu Jul-23-09 05:21 PM
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11. I'm beginning to wonder... |
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...if this incident was more about a serf refusing to show proper submission to an authority figure than it was about race. Perhaps Professor Gates was arrested because he dared to assert his sovereignty to a cop.
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Thu Jul-23-09 05:28 PM
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12. Probably a lot of it... |
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...but I suspect being an "uppity" black man didn't help him either.
Heck, I'd have been royally pissed if they tried to arrest me for breaking into MY OWN damn house. Can't blame Gates for that at all.
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Thu Jul-23-09 06:06 PM
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13. You're absolutely right. Now there are a large number of good/kind/professional police |
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officers out there, but I know from experience that very many of them have a "submit now, or pay the price" attitude. They do not like to be questioned, argued with, or disobeyed. Arrogance plain and simple.
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Thu Jul-23-09 06:24 PM
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17. ding ding...He did not "respect the autori-TIE". . .n/t |
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Thu Jul-23-09 07:34 PM
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27. I tend to think it is more of that than anything else |
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I give some credence to the reports of the statements that he made.
Never yell at or insult the guy carrying the gun unless you have one too and its already pointed at him
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Thu Jul-23-09 08:22 PM
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33. He was arrested because the neighbor reported two black men with back packs breaking and entering. |
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Thu Jul-23-09 08:51 PM
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35. But somehow that's not about race in the parallel universe that is this subthread..... |
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Edited on Thu Jul-23-09 08:52 PM by marmar
Crazy sh*t, isn't it?
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Thu Jul-23-09 09:27 PM
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38. Do you think if the driver and homeowner were white, the neighbor might have recognized them? |
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Thu Jul-23-09 09:51 PM
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43. IT"S NOT ABOUT THE FUCKING NEIGHBOR. The call was clean. |
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It's ONLY ABOUT Crowley's behaviour AFTER he had a confirmation on Skip's identity.
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Thu Jul-23-09 10:12 PM
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44. Okay. Isn't it also true that the report/call predisposes the PD expectations/behavior on arrival? |
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Mon Jul-27-09 04:30 PM
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51. It wasn't a neighbor.. |
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The caller never said anything about race or backpacks..
You are zero for three.
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Thu Jul-23-09 06:07 PM
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Thu Jul-23-09 06:25 PM
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20. Today, probably queasy. nt |
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl::cry: Thanks, I needed that................. :rofl:
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Thu Jul-23-09 06:24 PM
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16. LOL. What an idiot. I'd like to see him teach that class again. |
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Thu Jul-23-09 06:24 PM
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18. and some of his "best friends" are n... umm "black"!!! |
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where have we heard THAT one before?!!!
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Thu Jul-23-09 06:25 PM
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19. There's nothing so awesome as being the fox guarding the henhouse. |
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Thu Jul-23-09 06:30 PM
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21. "Those who can't do...teach." n/t |
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Thu Jul-23-09 06:34 PM
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24. That's a pretty lame statement. |
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Thu Jul-23-09 06:30 PM
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22. Wait a minute. Are Obama and the Professor friends or do all black people know each other? |
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Check out the last line --- From the link:
Obama was asked about the arrest of Gates, who is a friend, at the end of a nationally televised news conference on health care Wednesday night.
"I think it's fair to say, No. 1, any of us would be pretty angry," Obama said. "No. 2, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home. And No. 3, what I think we know separate and apart from this incident — is that there is a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately, and that's just a fact."
In radio interviews Thursday morning, Crowley maintained he followed procedure.
"I support the president of the United States 110 percent. I think he was way off base wading into a local issue without knowing all the facts as he himself stated before he made that comment," Crowley told WBZ-AM. "I guess a friend of mine would support my position, too."
"I think he was way off base wading into a local issue without knowing all the facts as he himself stated before he made that comment," Crowley told WBZ-AM. "I guess a friend of mine would support my position, too." "
He's inferring that Obama knows the Professor (maybe he does, I don't know) or that they President said what he did because they are both BLACK? unmet "friends" who will "support their position" just because?
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Thu Jul-23-09 06:41 PM
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I bet that white firefighter knows that white cop!
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Thu Jul-23-09 07:36 PM
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28. Obama have said he and Dr. Gates are friends. |
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Edited on Thu Jul-23-09 07:36 PM by LisaL
Happy now?
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Thu Jul-23-09 08:19 PM
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31. Why did you have to add the asshole comment? I said they might be and I didn't know. |
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:evilfrown: Happy now? :puke:
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Thu Jul-23-09 07:55 PM
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29. So, when asked to give his name and badge number, what... |
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is that arrogant "expert" a-hole (like a ton too many others like him) supposed to do (by law)?
A simple question from an old white hippy here...
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Thu Jul-23-09 08:12 PM
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30. That doesn't mean he's not racist. |
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Any more than the Environmental Officer at an oil company is an environmentalist. The job is to help the department avoid diversity claims.
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Thu Jul-23-09 08:53 PM
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36. Umm. DID I CLAIM anywhere in my post that this means he's not racist? The POINT |
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of my posting this was the IRONY of it.
Sheesh.
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Thu Jul-23-09 09:27 PM
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37. If you want your OP understood, then state your opinion in it. |
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Don't blame me because your OP was inadequate.
If you post a thread such as this, without your own commentary, you are stuck with the impression your post has created.
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Thu Jul-23-09 09:44 PM
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40. Don't blame ME because YOU made an incorrect assumption. Don't ASSume... |
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...that you KNOW the poster's opinion and go off half-cocked on the OP because of YOUR incorrect assumption.
DO NOT shoot first then ask later, in other words.
This is a YOU problem, not a ME problem or a problem with my post.
NO ONE ELSE in this thread besides YOU made an incorrect assumption about it.
Sorry bucko, this is a *you* issue. I don't own it.
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Thu Jul-23-09 09:47 PM
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41. Weak thread, badly presented. |
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Thu Jul-23-09 08:21 PM
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32. He teaches it at the college I work at |
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Thu Jul-23-09 09:51 PM
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42. Those circling wagons must be blocking traffic by now. nt |
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Thu Jul-23-09 08:46 PM
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34. Move over Joe The Plumber. The right has their next hero |
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A guy so inept he couldn't manage a situation inside a homeowner's house after the homeowner had produced his identification. So inept, he couldn't handle a situation with the backup of two other officers against a 59 yr. old guy who stands 5' 6" and weighs under 150 lbs. The fiercely rights' protective rightwing will hail this guy as a hero for, oh, the irony of it, arresting a man inside his own home. Just imagine if this incompetent tried to arrest one of the Rush-listenin' old white guys inside his house. We'd be deaf from the screaming. Yep. This lowbrow, low performer will not be on the talk shows and be lauded as a hero. For being a really bad police officer. The right just loves failures.
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Thu Jul-23-09 10:27 PM
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47. If we could give recs to replies... |
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:applause: :thumbsup: :applause: :thumbsup: :applause: :thumbsup: :applause: :thumbsup:
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Thu Jul-23-09 09:30 PM
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39. So when does he testify in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee? |
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Edited on Thu Jul-23-09 09:30 PM by msanthrope
I mean, I really think we ought to reopen the Sotomayor hearings and have this dude testify....
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Fri Jul-24-09 03:18 PM
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49. I read a little about his 11 year record... |
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...and don't really think he's a bad cop or a racist.
That doesn't mean that he didn't make a stupid decision in this situation.
Once the ID was shown, the situation should have been over.
Good people, smart people, do stupid stuff sometimes. He needs to own up to it and move on.
Apologize for fucks sake. But I think he's painted himself into a corner.
Professor Gates really shouldn't have talked about his mom, I'm thinkin'.
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Mon Jul-27-09 04:32 PM
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52. I'm thinkin' that Prof Gates is going to get a financial windfall.. |
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And definitely a lot of high quality media exposure, remember there is no such thing as bad pub..
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