If God wanted you to have health care you'd have been born in EUROPE

[elehhhhna]

can we get a bumper sticker, please?

[Mythsaje]

1. I know, right?

Not European = not entitled to health care.

It's just that simple.

[boobooday]

2. I like it

:thumbsup:

[Auggie]

3. That's a good D.U. T-shirt

[gratuitous]

4. Careful

In the last 10 years, I've seen scathing parody turn into right wing conventional wisdom with alarming frequency.

[BelgianMadCow]

5. 1770 euro per person per year

is what our ENTIRE social security program costs. That includes health care (doctor visit: 10 euro, basic hospital insurance: 150 euro for a family, on edit: per YEAR) and unemployment and things like maternity leave.
It really IS possible.

unfortunately, here as well, the crisis is being used to put the entire system in jeopardy...

[TahitiNut]

8. Funny what you can buy when you don't have a "defense" budget as big as the rest of the world, huh?

On top of that, we pay about 70% more for health care for about 40% less than the rest of the industrialized world.

It's sooooo fucking stupid. We're buying DEATH, not health. :grr:

[BelgianMadCow]

12. The only word for the US defense budget is "obscene"

but you knew that..

<Insert your favorite Eisenhower MIC quote here>

Once I discussed the sorry state of the US with my brother, speaking of the eventual demise which I thought was coming pretty soon. Always the more pragmatical of us two, he said "yeah sure but they still own all the guns"...

[RaleighNCDUer]

27. Believe me, that is just as scary for us as it is for you. nt

[Classic_Liberal2]

6. We need tort reform

Maybe a loser pays system would discourage the liberal use of lawsuits that are driving up our health care expenses.

[Orsino]

9. Where have I heard that before?

Oh, yeah. There. :eyes:

[TahitiNut]

10. You're back, huh? Try peddling that horse shit to your coprophagist friends.

:eyes:

[tj2001]

11. What Fucking Bullshit

[City Lights]

15. How original.

:eyes:

[elehhhhna]

16. oops you're on the wrong board AND

back that up with facts or take it back.

[elehhhhna]

19. And, read this, dumbhead:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6132759

[sasquatch]

18. You're right, if we don't stop this how can we keep incompetent doctors and insurers in business

:sarcasm:

[Aristus]

26. What's the point of disguising yourself as a liberal if you bring that right-wing "tort reform"

horseshit out right after you get here?

Tort reform is Doctor-speak for: "We shouldn't be held responsible for our own bad medical decisions."

You think doctors are going to stop making poor choices if the jury simply shakes their fingers and says "Cease and desist"? There has to be an economic disincentive for those who commit malpractice, or it's never going to stop.

Now, do you want pepperoni on your tombstone?

...shithead...

[tj2001]

7. Or Canada, or Japan or Taiwan. Or CUBA

[Fuzz]

13. I was trying to tell my parents to fuck in France, but they couldn't hear me.

I was in the ether.

[joeybee12]

14. Same if we wanted most of us to have fashion sense as well...n/t

[elehhhhna]

17. and GMO free crops

[joeybee12]

21. And decent mass transit...n/t

[KamaAina]

20. Why is our health care under their cobblestoned streets?

:eyes:

[elehhhhna]

22. lol

[elehhhhna]

23. don;'t forget one month vacations and 35 hour work weeks

our country kinda sucks compared to the rest of the civilized world ... if you're in the working class.

[Joe the Liberal]

24. Yup.....

We lack so many things that the rest of civilized world already has. Although I believe we will get them eventually but not a for very long time. When we do get them the rest of the civilized world will have a whole bunch of new things and once again it will take us a long time to catch up.

[truedelphi]

25. it makes me wonder - if I had a job

With a promised vacation and other good benefits, I would not be so stressed and would not be so sick.

[HOLOS]

28. lol