A third of men under 40 still live at Hotel Mum

[Swede]

That's kinda pathetic.

A study has found one in three men aged between 20 and 40 is still living with their parents. This compares with one in five women of the same age.
It also emerged that one in four men who have flown the nest has kept a fully-furnished bedroom at their parents' home, just in case.
But just one in five girls has kept their childhood room after moving out.





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1201828/A-men-40-live-Hotel-Mum.html

[Tangerine LaBamba]

1. You do realize

this is not about the United States male population, don't you?

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3. probably higher in the us. is that your point?

[Tangerine LaBamba]

6. Well,

posting that without noting that it's a UK study is kind of misleading.

That's my point.

You couldn't figure that out?

Who ties your laces for you?

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13. me mum. (say nae more, *nod, nod, wink, wink*)...

[Tangerine LaBamba]

15. Hmmmm.............

[pnwmom]

22. I doubt that it's that high here, actually. n/t

[Swede]

4. Gee,I was wondering why they used the term "us Brits" in the article.

:shrug:

[sandnsea]

2. Perhaps some men have moved back home

in order to pay child support to the women who didn't have to move back home.

[Oilwellian]

11. You've hit the nail on the head

Child support prevents many men from remaining independent after a divorce. Usually, the only way they can swing having their own place is by getting a roommate and sharing expenses.

On the other hand, many of the parents of these sons and daughters living at home, probably welcome the added income...particularly now. It would be interesting to study how family dynamics are changing due to the horrid economy today.

[WolverineDG]

33. And men NOT paying child support is the reason why so many women live in at or below poverty

So spare me the sob stories about men who go back home to live with Mommy because they have to pay child support.

dg

[Oilwellian]

36. I didn't realize I was "sobbing"

Just stating a fact. The topic was about men and women still living at home with their parents and I responded to a very good point as to why that is happening. If you want to discuss why women live in poverty, start another thread. I'll be happy to respond and agree with you. Sheesh.

[Mind_your_head]

5. Ah, amurikans can't understand that lingo.....

Let me translate:

33% of men between the ages of 20 and 40 are still living with their parents. This compares with 20% of woman of the same age (20-40 y/o)

Women ROCK! in every way! (No WONDER men try to keep us women 'down'.)

Men can be *cool* but they need to keep away from "useless video games* and let their 'testosterone' be their guide sometimes in a "good/healthy" way....

[Mind_your_head]

16. You know, the MORE I think about this.......

it has to be b*llshit propaganda. D*mn. I believed/fell-for-it AT FIRST.

Women USUALLY bear the brunt of caring for their children WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more than men do.

THAT. IS. A. FACT.

[Naturyl]

7. Doesn't surprise me.

If one can tolerate the jokes and Mom approves, it's very much the smart thing to do.

This modern America is no place for anybody trying to get by.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

9. Uh -

that's a London newspaper, and the study was done in the United Kingdom.

It's about British males.

You should read the links before you comment. Otherwise, you look silly................

[Naturyl]

17. OK. However, I'd imagine the UK situation is not much different.

Sometimes I don't read the links and get burnt on it, but in this case I doubt it makes a great deal of difference.

[pnwmom]

26. The statistics are significantly lower in the U.S. (See post 24, below.)

There's always been a big push for young people to move out of the nest here, as compared to in Europe.

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[Liquorice]

8. A 20 year old living at home is much different than a guy in his late 30's, so

that study is kind of misleading.

[Johonny]

10. wish I live close enough to my parents to live there

Would save 20 K a year. Could actually save up to buy a place.

Anyways. So the nuclear family in which people stay with relatives is wrong? Does this matter? I forgot it's manly to have no personal relationships and spend yourself into debt to help contribute to urban sprawl. Every single person must have their own place and hate their parents. It's manly

[noamnety]

20. Agreed - we value McMansions over relationships with family

as a culture, and mock those who don't throw a thousand unnecessary dollars each month at a mortgage company to prove their manliness.

[pnwmom]

25. Using those large family homes for extended families can be a better use

of resources, as you point out.

[proud2BlibKansan]

12. In this economy, this surprises you why?

[Twinguard]

14. I lived at my parents' house until I was 22.

I was working and going to college.

My bedroom in their house is still my bedroom. I use it when I go to visit, of course the bed seems smaller now that I have a wife to share it with.

I call "so what" on this survey. Who cares. I wonder what percentage of the "one in three" are people just like I was... early twenties, students, trying to save a few bucks until they could afford a place of their own.

Thanks for including me in your "That's kinda pathetic" crack.

[Mind_your_head]

18. Moving out of your parent's home at 22/23 is normal/good practice......

You and your parents "did good", don't be *alarmed*.

HOWEVER, young people TODAY can't/won't be able to do that.

Good thing you grew up in *prosperus times*! So what are young people today supposed to do?

[Uben]

21. My 27 yr old daughter still lives at Hotel Mum

She was away for six years to college to get her MBA then she moved back home. She works for her mom in a business that has to be accreditted by the government. They would have lost that accreditation had she not been willing to stay and use her education to save mom's business! SHe is engaged to a young man who just got back from his second tour in Afghanistan and is currently acquiring his license to fly helicopters. They just signed a lease on an apartment and will be moving in 3 weeks.

I'm sure there are young men living at home for economic reasons, and there is nothing wrong with that. Better for them to live at home than to go bankrupt living on credit cards. Jobs are hard to find for young folks these days, and they do not need the added pressure of people ridiculing them for living at home. Everyone's circumstance is different, so lets not be to quick to judge. Sure, there are slackers, but the economic times dictates that staying at home may be the smartest decision.

[napoleon_in_rags]

23. I've seen it quite a bit here in the US.

But still, its a bigger thing in Europe I'm sure, and far more than that in Latin countries. The whole concept of a family living together in the same house over generations is really a very old idea, the departure from it is fairly modern.

[pnwmom]

24. The numbers are significantly lower in the U.S. for 2008-2009.

More figures are at the link.

http://www.csu.nisra.gov.uk/Adults%20living%20with%20their%20parents.htm

MEN

20-24 64%
25-29 34%
30-34 10%

WOMEN

20-24 46%
25-29 23%
30-34 8%

[proteus_lives]

27. Not surprising.

Even with the economic crisis, America has a strong "You turn 18 and leave" tradition.

[joshcryer]

28. I wonder why less women live at home. Possibly birthers?

I know 3 people who got knocked up at 19-21 and got married and moved out.

[proteus_lives]

29. Birthers?

Doesn't that term mean people who are obsessed with Obama's birth certificate?

[madinmaryland]

39. That's what it means now on here. I think it used to refer to the Duggers

who have 18 kids and Octomom.

:shrug:

[pnwmom]

32. Partly because women tend to marry at younger ages than men.

And I'm guessing also because men might have more freedom when they live with their parents than women do. And men like having their mothers around to cook, do their laundry, etc.

[muriel_volestrangler]

37. Those are figures for Northern Ireland

The Continuous Household Survey (CHS) is one of the largest continuous surveys carried out in Northern Ireland. The survey is designed, conducted and analysed by the Central Survey Unit of the Northern Ireland Statistics and Research Agency (NISRA). It is based on a sample of the general population resident in private households and has been running since 1983. The Survey is designed to provide a regular source of information on a wide range of social and economic issues relevant to Northern Ireland. The nature and aims of CHS are similar to those of the General Household Survey (GHS), which is carried out by the Office for National Statistics (ONS) in Great Britain.

http://www.csu.nisra.gov.uk/survey.asp2.htm

What are the American figures?

[TwixVoy]

30. This largely depends on culture I used to know someone from India

and he thought it was strange as hell that most americans wanted to move out by the time they hit their 20's. He said that most families lived together in India REGARDLESS of age.

IMO it's the smarter move. It keeps the family stronger. For one thing everyone is not out on their own, thus it keeps family ties closer. Also it keeps the family financially stronger because all financial resources are combined versus everyone paying for separate homes.

The ironic thing is within the next 3 years most 20-30 year olds won't be able to afford to live on their own anymore anyway.....

[The2ndWheel]

34. Sure does sound like single payer healthcare

"Also it keeps the family financially stronger because all financial resources are combined versus everyone paying for separate homes."

Sometimes it's funny the way we have these conflicting messages. Everyone should help everyone with healthcare, from cradle to grave, so that we can end up being as hyper-individualistic as we wish to be. Your own home, own transportation, etc, etc. Yet if it's done at the family level, pooling the resources in the same manner, you get a nice big A(or L) on your chest.

Not that it's all our free choice. We do exist within physical reality. The inexpensiveness of energy has a lot to do with it. The more expensive the energy, the more each of us needs other people. Again, look at healthcare. The less expensive the energy, the less each of us needs other people. Look at the American car culture when gas was practically free(in the economic sense).

[itsrobert]

31. Who cares?

I been out of the house since I was 20. But I don't understand why it's "pathetic".

[raccoon]

35. Don't you mean one in five WOMEN?

"It also emerged that one in four men who have flown the nest has kept a fully-furnished bedroom at their parents' home, just in case.
But just one in five girls has kept their childhood room after moving out. "

One of my pet peeves.

[NNN0LHI]

38. My son-in laws mother still keeps his toothbrush in the holder

He got married and moved out ten years ago.

Don

[Juche]

40. Well, what can you do

I moved out to go to college, then moved back to look for a job. After finding a job that was near family I decided to just live at home and put all of my paycheck into student loan principal, I figured it was a better idea than finding my own place 10 miles away and spending my income on rent and utilities. Then they laid me off because of the recession, so here I am. I would not mind moving out (not being able to see my brother's family would be hard) but I'd have to find a job first.