Anyone Noticing Media Turning on Obama

[liberalmike27]

I don't know if the rest of you have noticed, but it seems in the last couple of weeks, the media has been turning on the negativity toward Obama's policy. I don't really think they've ever heaped a whole lot of praise on most of his ideas, though they are always quite complimentary of his family life, and that sort of things.

It seems to me that it started taking place, just about when the House of Representative suggested putting a surtax on over half million, and over a million a year. Personally, I don't know why they stopped at a million, perhaps another category for over ten million, and another for over a hundred, and maybe we should be thinking about throwing capital gains in with ordinary income, as most normal Americans CD interest is included.

Is that a coincidence? I don't think so. Katie makes 15 million a year, Rush got 400 million until 2016 and a 25 million dollar signing bonus. O'Reilly gets about ten million a year, and David Gregory made about 3 million before he got the up to MTP, and his wife is wealthy too, working for Fannie May. Add to that a few snarky questions like "President Obama, do you really think the rich should have to pay for everyone's health care," by Meridith Vierra. I've heard numerous comments about "soaking the rich," which is ridiculous, as to be soaked, it'd have to be closer to 90 percent. Adding a few percent to such wealthy people is getting a little wet, but certainly they aren't drowning. It is a very unflattering way to express it, when in fact, most of us are and have been, soaked by so many decisions and choices wealth has made in this country.

The media, and wealth, and corporations control everything, they choose who gets in office, and they pretty much seem to pay our elected politicians, and then the pols do what they want. And it seems they've been shipping jobs away for years, demonizing unions, and lowering our pay in any, and every way they can.

But that was the time, that was just about when I noticed the worm turning, and them being more openly negative toward Obama. I halfway wish he'd just decide to not run again, and toss a few FDR words at the "economic royalists," the "fat-cats," and "money-changers in the temple." That'd do us all good!

[rocktivity]

1. The media stands to lose a major source of advertising revenue

if the public option, and especially single payer, were to take hold. And with all due respect to Schutlz, Maddow, and Olbermann, their parent company cashes in on U.S. warfare.

:headbang:
rocktivity

[liberalmike27]

5. All True

but it seemed to start happening at just about the time when the House suggested the tax on the rich.

Yea, not talking about the Pentagon, and the incredible waste is pretty much a media agreement. It's like the communism filter. There will be no talk of any sort of communism. They don't touch the CIA generally, especially in the past. In fact, no one talked about Iran's 1953 coup, which started all of this recent stuff, no one seemed even aware of it in the media, UNTIL Obama mentioned it in his trip over there.

Yet, it was the culminating event, unless you count the discovery of oil, and then them nationalizaing their own oil.

That's why I don't see any of the media as liberal, it's right-of-center, to fascist pretty much. Thank God for the Internet, but I'm sure they'll fuck that up too.

[Moochy]

8. Real Healthcare Reform should also eliminate TV Drug Ads

ask your doctor about ethics!

[napoleon_in_rags]

15. My God yes. Is it a medical treatment or not??? "Ask your doctor about hip replacement!"

Your DOCTOR will TELL you if hip replacement is right for you. IF your need to ask your doctor about it, then what he was thinking of before isn't the best treatment and therefore he is a BAD doctor.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

2. I agree with you. I've admittedly become more

complacent since the election, but the change in the tone of the news coverage has me on alert.

[MarjorieG]

3. Seemed to me it started while Obama was concerned with G8, and that failed stimulus

media cycle began, and how he can't be trusted on economy and health care. Lawrence O'Donnell just said both Dems and GOP know Obama health care in trouble, same cmtes in House and Senate from '93, so I wonder if it isn't just an added glee of taking him down where they want him because they sense a weakness and they can. In fact, as former Chief of Staff to Finance Cmte, O'Donnell has been voice of doom on heath care, generally.

I hope Obama can salvage what he thought was his plan and campaigned on, a strong public option. Already not a Medicare single-payer, I'm sure he thought there could be consensus, but Dems especially gave him trouble about everything, not just cost. None wanted to take risks, or make strong policy.

Obama knows he and the country needs this, but I hope he can retool not what sells, but something that can work. Congress has not had his back, or the American needs, on this.

We need an education on what our tax rate used to be when we were responsible, and what other countries pay, because our country is clueless.

[Life Long Dem]

4. Something you hear as a kid...

about big business being in control. But what's wrong with bringing this out into the open to talk about or the same with racism? The news wants to talk about this stuff then why not take advantage of this and talk?

[liberalmike27]

6. I think what is wrong to them

Is that the media is one of the biggest businesses around. I believe that is why they don't pin the money on the politician. Health care companies aren't the only ones paying big sums for law. All the media companies have done, and did the same during Bush's years. Exposing Senators, and plastering the numbers over their faces like Mike Moore did, will only make them throw arrows back at the media, as they too have their lobbyists.

[tabasco]

32. The media is a small branch of the mega war-profiteering and Treasury-raiding corporations

They don't care about profits, they care about catapulting propaganda.

[Lorax7844]

7. kick this thread rules

can you still edit to change your title? The part about taxing the rich should be in the title, it really hits the nail on the head.

They do not want to talk about this, not at all, cause they know America is fine with taxing their rich asses.

[liberalmike27]

22. We see how the media reacted

When Obama actually spoke honestly about the officers arresting Gates in his own house, we see how the media treated him. Imagine if he spoke openly about it generally speaking, more often.

He's walked a very fine line, because the white people that were running his campaign knew how it would influence white folks if he spoke out about race. Certainly that core group of birthers, tax tea partiers, fox viewers, and old Klan members aren't going to change their minds. Most liberals are over race enough. But there are still quite a few in the middle that have been convinced by decades of perp-walking black-only people on the local news, who will be swayed by honest, and open discussion of things like racism.

I'm still hearing this debated, as absurd as it is these officers made the decision to arrest a guy, who they had to realize at some point was in his own house.

Sad as it is, there is a group of crossover voters are are entirly too comfortable with profiling crackheads, that have been developed. They seem happy with Obama as long as he's preaching about raising kids, like Cosby. But when he talks about the reverse side, the resentment and regular practices against blacks in society, we've seen how that plays.

[TheKentuckian]

9. I never felt they were on his side in any real way.

[PretzelWarrior]

10. he isn't as "radical" and unstable as Bush or McCain for business

but now that he's trying to go a little too far according to what the big business overlords want....well, it's time to make him pay.

[backscatter712]

11. That assumes the media was ever on his side.

At best, they treated him as a shiny bauble to be used to make ratings.

Now that some of his policies and agenda threaten their cash cows (pharmco & insurance company advertising...) they're not even pretending to be nice to him.

This will be like the whole Rev. Wright thing - tape-loops of "God damn America" over and over and over and over...

[depakid]

14. Time to take away their cash cows

Get the disease mongering drug ads off the air.

Or imply a threat to do so.

[Mimosa]

12. YES!

It started 2 months ago but has gotten BAD lately.

LiberalMike I K&Red. Your OP is brief and right on target as to their motives. What can we do?

[liberalmike27]

23. Being Aware of it

And spreading it around to friends that the media being liberal is a lie, is about all we can do. Perhaps not watching them, but even I find it hard to do that. I yell at the television a lot.

The hoodwink comes when they pretend to be liberal by supporting social issues, which corporations could give a crap about. But on economic issues, like pay, anti-pollution, keeping the media from consolodating, or raising taxes on the rich, or talking about Pentagon spending negatively, well, this stuff doesn't get through their filters.

Economically, MSNBC is center-right, and FOX is pretty much Fascist, or perhaps another F-word is appropo, Fantasy.

[Maru Kitteh]

13. They are cooking it up a notdh.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

16. Please stop calling it the "media". It is nothing less than the propaganda arm

of its corporate masters.

[Supersedeas]

25. Corporate Marketeers and Advertisers posing as 'journalists'

[Eric68601]

17. Honestly, it's gotten to the point that..

I classify all the crap I hear about Obama under 2 categories

COMPLAINTS
&
CONSPIRACY'S

It makes me wonder what we will see more of during his term. I mean, damn can anybody name them all?

Bowing to a king, touching the queen, mustard on the burger, the peace sign shirt by his kid. That's just a couple off the top of my head.

Then you have the Conspiracy's. Muslim, Kenyan, wants to destroy insurance companies, and on and on.

Someone should really consider creating a forum devoted to Obama complaint's and conspiracy's.

I mean, damn, it gets so old, that when I'm on any given forum with a right wing retard, it's not even worth trying to rebut, just gotta chime in and say... OK, what's the complaint/conspiracy that's gonna get him impeached this week. Sometimes I think their so damn wrapped up in calling the guy Messiah, that their starting to believe their own horse shit and expect the guy to perform a fukking miracle with the economy and health care.

And the "LIBERAL MEDIA" really has been coming down on the guy as of late.... what'sup with that?

[liberalmike27]

24. Yea

It's interesting how even the most center-right of the media, MSNBC, seem only able to "react" to things. They never seem to venture out into their own unchartered territory, and react instead of proacting.

What effect does it have when Chris Mathews brings on people and talk about it? A whole lot of people will see it that won't even have seen it on FAUX news. It pushes it, puts it in the ether.

I know some attention has to be given to righting the BS that we allow on the networks that proport to be the news. But I think sometimes that it gives them unwarranted attention. Most folks that listen to MSNBC don't even watch FAKE newscorp.

[zbdent]

18. "turning" ... it turned when Obama became the Dem frontrunner over Hillary ...

[liberalmike27]

27. Not sure what you mean

But clearly Hillary would have been no different, and getting the same negative treatment had she managed to win.

I might add, she'd have been hedging and carefully walking that line of what you can and can't say in the media too, just like Obama. There are powerful forces that shove politicians around, and money is just one of them.

I doubt there is a day in Obama's life, where he doesn't wake up and wonder if it is his last. We've seen history, and how the right are completely willing to have people killed to thwart real change.

Still, I'd love for Obama to take this one term, say what he wants, and take his chances on the next. Part of the problem with first-termers is they are far too concerned with becoming eight-year presidents.

[eilen]

19. Millions of dollars of health care insurance corporate, lobby and PR money

If health insurers would just honor their policies, cover everyone (stop exclusions d/t pre-existing conditions) and stop trying to screw people over, they could save a lot of money on lobbyists.

and...
I think the government should have a surtax on all corporations that obtain free technology and research data knowledge from universities and colleges that receive federal and state dollars (including subsidized student loans). Maybe then universities will get out of the property development business and back into the education business. Perhaps we might get savvier citizens.

and...
there should be a narrow definition on what is considered "news" vs. opinion/entertainment. Much like magazines must label some multi-page articles "Advertisement Supplement".

[Jester Messiah]

20. The media is like a pendulum

If ever you see them building up a person or thing, you can lay money that it's only to knock them back down again on the back swing. The media needs to generate discontent in order to fill the 24/7 news cycle.

[liberalmike27]

30. More like a paddle ball

The paddle is the middle, and before it ever gets completely back onto the liberal side, it is hit by the paddle, and the ball of opinion is sent, once again, into right-wing la-la land.

[Wednesdays]

21. No, but I've been noticing a lot of hand-wringing trolls on DU of late

:think:

[joeybee12]

26. Yes, but the media is a door that swings both ways...

...he can get them back...

[Echo In Light]

28. Taking a page from the same M$M playbook used w/Clinton

American politics is much like 'pro' wrestling: canned controversy, and pre-determined outcomes.

[otohara]

29. I Just Had Said That On Ed Shultz

Show -

Group think media - we will never get health care because, Obama didn't behave or say the things the media "wanted" him to.

60% of his Tweeters said Pres. did a good job - 100% media panned his performance.

[graywarrior]

31. Yes

Corporate owned and they're getting the word from their bosses.