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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 04:06 AM
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Birthers' NEW Demand!
Edited on Fri Jul-24-09 04:32 AM by BLUSH






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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 08:27 AM
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1. Why The Birthers?
Why The Birthers?

Harry Shearer
Actor, author, director, satirist, musician, radio host, playwright, multi-media artist

Posted: July 24, 2009

Okay, I admit it, it may be my fault, I've watched Chris Matthews for three straight nights, and each evening he's sent the same question out into querulous cablespace: why the birthers?

Matthews, like many liberals, paleo-liberals and neo-liberals, chooses to seem baffled by the phenomenon of people insisting that, whatever proof Barack Obama, the state of Hawaii, and others have provided of his native-born status is not sufficient. And yet, it's not that hard to understand.

I'm not arguing for Obama's otherness, which seems to be the surface point of the birther movement. He seems as American as, say, any other Chicago pol.

The reason for the growth of birtherism, I'm suggesting, lies in the history of the last two presidencies. Bill Clinton was reviled by Republicans, partly because he won and partly because he won with the aid of a third-party candidate (Ross Perot), meaning that he enjoyed a plurality, but not a majority of the popular vote. George W. Bush was reviled by Democrats because he didn't win the popular vote at all, and was handed the electoral vote by a 5-4 decision of a Supreme Court so unsure of its reasoning that it insisted its decision in Bush v. Gore not be used as a precedent.

The opposition, in both cases, was fueled, energized, and supercharged to a point of near mania by the whiff of illegitimacy. Both the opposition to Clinton and the opposition to Bush drew power, endurance, and bile from the feeling that the incumbent was a rank usurper.

rest of article:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/harry-shearer/why-the-birthers_b_244101.html


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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 05:34 PM
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2. More Outlandish Rhetoric From GOP "Birthers"
More Outlandish Rhetoric From GOP "Birthers"

by Andrea Nill, Think Progress
July 24, 2009.

Ever eager to push paranoia, G. Gordon Liddy unleashes some unfounded accusations.

G. Gordon Liddy, the man behind the first Watergate break-in and founding father of the “whacko wing” of the Republican party is now claiming that President Obama is an “undocumented illegal alien.” This afternoon, an oddly “catatonoic” Liddy told Chris Matthews that he has a written deposition from President Obama’s step-grandmother where she says that Obama was born in a hospital in Mombasa:

MATTHEWS: He wasn’t born here and he’s never gone through a naturalization that you know of, right?

LIDDY: Not that I know of.

MATTHEWS: Therefore he’s here illegally. You’re saying he’s an undocumented alien.

LIDDY: Illegal alien.

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/141531/more_outlandish_rhetoric_from_gop_%22birthers%22/



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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 05:37 PM
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3. let their ignorance, hatred and bigotry shine
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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 07:51 PM
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5. shine ... By the Light of the Silvery Moon ...
Are birthers also "moon-landing deniers"?

Fri Jul 24, 2009

There are two sets of crazy wackos running around these days. One is the "birther" wackos and the other is the "moon-landing deniers". But are they two distinct sets of lunatics? Or are both groups made up of more or less the same wacko nutcases?

Jump....

Whirlaway's diary :: :: I think the two sets of Neanderthals are more or less identical. How do I say that? Here is my reasoning :

As we all know, the "birthers" are almost entirely composed of right-wing wackos motivated by racism and bigotry. No amount of evidence would convince them that Obama was born in Hawaii. It is not a leap to imagine that most of the "birthers" are also probably global-warming deniers. Because that is what their hate radio preachers tell them.

When scientists point out to evidence about global warming, one of the many pieces of evidence they use is remote sensing data. And in the US, who provides that data? You guessed it - NASA! And therefore, the "birther, global-warming denier" loons know that they have to do everything to give NASA a bad name. And what better way to do it than to discredit NASA on one of their greatest achievements (indeed one of the greatest achievements of humanity) ever?

Now, there may be some "birther, global-warming denier" troglodytes who might think that we did go to the moon, not because they have any evidence or can understand any of it, but because they want to believe that America did what the Communists couldn't. Or something like that. However, I still think that there is a very high degree of overlap between the "birthers" and the "moon-landing deniers".

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/7/24/161051/070


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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 05:38 PM
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4. Obama should produce his umbilical cord and wrap it around their throats.
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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 08:42 PM
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7. in some cases, it wouldn't be long enough




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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 07:55 PM
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6. They are probably Tea Baggers too...
maybe if someone took their tea bags and dangled them over boiling water it would give them something else to think about. After all one of the few things the reptile brain recognizes is pain stimulus.
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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 06:29 AM
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8. Who Are the Birthers?
by Brian Montopoli

Liz Cheney, talk show hosts Rush Limbaugh and Michael Reagan and even CNN's Lou Dobbs are among those taking the birthers' theories seriously. Former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others have pushed the argument in court; earlier this month a soldier challenged his deployment to Iraq based on birther claims.

Some Congressional Republicans have also taken up the birther cause: California Rep. John Campbell co-sponsored a bill (with at least nine others) requiring presidential candidates to submit a birth certificate, a wink and a nod action that he maintains is somehow not related to the birthers' claims. When MSNBC's Chris Matthews asked Campbell if he believed Mr. Obama is a natural born citizen, Campbell hedged, saying, "As far as I know, yes, OK?" He told Matthews, "it doesn`t matter whether I have doubts or not."

"Republican presidential candidates need to figure out how to diffuse angry birthers who are bound to show up and demand their attention," he writes. "…If they give credence to the birthers, they're (not only advancing ignorance but also) betraying the narrowness of their base. If they dismiss this growing movement, they might drive birthers to find more extreme candidates, which will fragment a Republican political coalition."

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/07/23/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5182746.shtml











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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 07:55 PM
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9. Lou Dobbs' New Book: My Beef With Reality



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