Bottom line: Police EXTORT respect from the citizenry at gunpoint

[tj2001]

plus that little piece of creative writing called a police report.

Sadly, the citizenry has been propagandized to think that every word in a police report is the truth - and every word a "suspect" says is suspect.

The establishment and the media accept every word in a police report without question. This has to change. Creative writing should not be considered evidence of anything unless corroborated by videotape. Period.

[paulsby]

1. what utter rubbish

where do you get this crap. even the friggin oreilly factor conceded that they didn't know which side was telling the truth, the cops or gates. and if that rightwing organ says that, that's pretty damning of your theory. also, as polls repeatedly show most people respect cops, gunpoint or not. every time the polling is done cops rank near the top of all professions in terms of respect accorded by citizens. i doubt police are holding guns to the heads of people answering anonymous polls. hth

[MrsBrady]

5. I know a white guy

who was arrested on a bs charge because the white cop didn't like his bumper stickers, his long hair...and proselytized all the way to the city jail.
YES, proselytized! and chastised his political views while he was at it.
There was a guy in traffic who didn't like the anti-bush stickers on my friend's van, and was trying to get my friend to rear end him.
The guy was driving like an ass, but called the cops and my friend had done nothing. NOTHING.
The cop lied on the police report. Yes, LIED.
We did some digging and found out later that the cop and the guy in traffic probably knew some of the same people.

And the system treats you like you are guilty until proven innocent. OR until you have enough money to afford a lawyer and after the state extorts you for money because they know the guy who actually caused the problem. If you are lucky you can afford a lawyer to get the charges dropped because you've never even caused 1 cent of trouble in your life....and if you don't get rid of this 3rd degree misdemeanor you will not be able to pass security clearance for your federal contractor job!

Yes, cops lie. And they make the ones that are good look bad.


2nd point. The story is WAY to complicated but basically....Several houses down they have real problems with alcohol, drugs,my husband and another say it's Meth...and abuse. Driving while drunk, abusing animals, hitting. I basically took their cat away myself. There's like 3 different families over there, all very weird....and scamming the "financial assistance" systems....Noise, you name it. And it's a good neighborhood.
We have called over and over again. Several neighbors have as well. Last weekend the first set of cops were ass holes and didn't really want to do anything. I called back 911 later on because it really was not resolved, and I said it would be their fault if something happened over there. I suggested they get a female cop (duh!). Anyway, the next male/female cops were a lot better. Another neighbor told us a cop was back yesterday in the middle of the day and got all the license plate numbers. Thank God, maybe they are going to do something. I still don't know why this one guy has not been arrested.

I told them over and over again. They drink all day and all night...all of the 5 or 6 adults over there at any one time. Just come back at noon, they will take their beers with them when they go to get more.

It's all upside down as far as I'm concerned.
They arrest people because they don't like them or try to exert their power...but then when there really is a situation....they go all out to avoid arresting anyone. I don't freaking get it?!?

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. That is often the case

Still remember vividly when I was pulled over for stopping at a stop sign and waiting for traffic to clear before I turned right. Cop had the lights and siren on, and I pulled over, thinking he was chasing someone else. Got a ticket for "failure to yield to oncoming traffic", and it was cop's word vs mine. Cost me my entire day's salary, and it was during a time of financial hardship. Oh, it was the last day of the month, and the cop hadn't gotten his quota of tickets.

[seabeyond]

3. my opinion of cops shifted in late 90's. my son was little, 1 and 2. we would

see a police in a convenient store, and being civil minded and a good mama i would tell son, when you go in, be sure to say hi mr officer. trying to foster a trust and good feel for my son with our police and a social interaction for the son. i was using the cops to teach my son.

4, 5 tries later, the son did not have one positive reaction from the cops. color me surprised. i would end up telling son, some adults dont have a thing for kids, not a deal. i quit trying

we would see the firemen in the grocery store and i would have son say hi to them. they ALWAYS welcomed my son. shook hands. on a couple occassions brought them up to sit in truck. talk about what they were cooking for dinner. it was ALWAYS a positive experience for son.

by the time kid was 5, 6 i had nephew and son at store and two bicycle cops came by. one ignored kids, not nice. one stopped. my son had quit addressing the cops. this cop chatted with boys, gave them a baseball card and i was overjoyed with interaction. nephew has abusive father and just experience a fearful experience in his home where cops had to come out. so i had ONE positive experience for boys at the right time

just one story

but this is when i started recognizing there were real issue with our police force. they walked away from community and became all.... cop

[Th1onein]

4. I had a warrant officer come to my house looking for my daughter...

He came to arrest her for traffic tickets, I guess. Anyway, she didn't live there--it was my mother's house, and I had just inherited it--and she had never listed it as her address. But he knew it was her grandmother's house.

He woke me up; it was early in the morning. I wasn't dressed, so I looked through the window facing the front porch. He pulled back and looked at me looking through the window. I kind of figured he was a cop, given that move. But he had no uniform and his car was sporting no emblems or lights. So I didn't open the door.

I pulled up on the venetian blinds on the front door window, instead, and asked him what he wanted. He said he was there to see my daughter. I told him she wasn't there; didn't live there. He DEMANDED to see my ID.

Here I am in a nightgown (really, just a sheet wrapped around me), behind a locked door, and this idiot in plain clothes is asking to see my ID in my own house! I told him if he had a warrant for Penny, then he must know she's twenty fucking years old, and do I look like I'm twenty years old? I told him he better get the fuck off of my property. He threatened to issue me a citation for "failure to show ID."

I called 911 and told them some asshole was on my front porch demanding that I show ID and they better get out there quick because I had a gun. Here comes the Galveston Sheriff's department and this big cop comes up on my porch. The other plain clothes cop had left and gone back to his car at the curb. This Galveston County Sheriff tried to get me to show the other guy my ID, too. I told him to get the fuck off of my property.

They both left.

These guys both knew that they had the wrong house. They knew that I wasn't my daughter, yet they both had the audacity to ask for my ID, even though I was in my own home, behind a locked door. Do I have respect for cops? Hell no.

These people are supposed to be public servants and yet they act like the Gestapo. I'm sick of it.

[Bette Noir]

6. Could be worse.

A friend of my dad's shot a man in bed. He had misread the warrant, got the wrong address, shot the wrong guy. Like a warrant is a death sentence, anyway, to be enforced by the cop.

I don't like cops, either.