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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 12:27 PM
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Gates did not break the law
His demeanor is not pertinent unless it breaches any of the available criminal statues which make his actions a crime. When his identity was verified, the duties of this police officer where concluded. Being an asshole is not illegale and arresting someone for contempt of cop is an abuse of power. All of this is reinforced by the fact that the charges where dropped which actually increase the exposure to a civil suit.


His actions where stupid. He did act stupidly.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 12:36 PM
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1. If Gates was white, and the officer was black,
Gates would have his own show on Faux by now ...
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 12:38 PM
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2. In the situation, two people acted like assholes.. but only one of them had the right to


The officer, while on duty, has to maintain his composure and NOT be an asshole.


Gates had every right to act like an asshole in his own home and on his own property.


Acting like an asshole isn't a crime. Arresting someone for acting like an asshole SHOULD be.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 12:40 PM
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3. Clearly n/t
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 12:42 PM
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4. Gates was exercising his First Amendment right to express his negative
opinion of the officer. I applaud him. A few more cops need to know what We The People think of their snotty, superior attitude when they display such. We pay their salaries.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 12:43 PM
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5. Disorderly conduct in public -- in one's own living room, or even porch.
Whatever happened to the RW's "one's home is one's castle"?
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 01:29 PM
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9. Bingo! Defending Gates should be a bread-and-butter Republican cause!
... except for one pesky little detail.

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 12:43 PM
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6. Which part of his actions were stupid?
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 03:02 PM
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11. The part where he hung around and arrested Gates
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 12:47 PM
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7. Gates did not commit a crime
and he did not act stupidly. He was in his own home.

The police officer was pissed because Gates did not respect his authori_TAH and submit to his police state tactics like a good N#### !
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 01:26 PM
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8. "police state tactics"
Edited on Fri Jul-24-09 01:27 PM by jberryhill
What, specifically, was the reason the cop was there in the first place?

I was under the impression that the cop was there to protect the valuable property presumably in a house in a wealthy neighborhood.

What the cop then failed to understand is that he had been dismissed by the wealthy resident of said house.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 02:05 PM
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10. Disorderly Conduct is a catchall cops use when nothing else fits and they want to arrest you
There was a story a while back about a Wisconsin man arrested in his front yard for DC because he was legally wearing a holstered pistol on his belt (AKA Open Carry). A whinny neighbor called the cops. Wisconsin AG said the action was legal, but the local prosecutor went ahead with it. Police chief backed the arrest and order his officers to do it again under the same circumstances. The victim of the police abuse was an white male.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=118&topic_id=201627
http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/39722082.html
http://www.wisn.com/news/19235901/detail.html Police after the same guy AGAIN


Similar Cases
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/18/nyregion/18about.html?_r=2
http://www.wisn.com/news/19243781/detail.html

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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 11:00 AM
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12. NPR had two police chiefs on yesterday
Both confirmed that once the identification was made, police duties where over. They also both confirmed that you have wide leeway in the things you can say in your own home and an officers job is to de-escalate. They both agreed that in this case, de-escalation meant Crowley leaving.

So for all the abusive cop apologists:
Crowley broke from procedure.
Gates was in the right being in his own home.


Obama may think its best to to heal the wound nationally but i have no such duty. The cop acted stupidly.


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