Would You PARDON Scooter Libby In Exchange for INDICTING Karl Rove?

[Segami]

Karl Rove spent years avoid any such indictments by special prosecutor Fitzgerald. If it were possible, would you agree to pardon Scooter Libby of all charges in exchange for indictments against Karl Rove's participation in the Valerie Plame outing affair?


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[H2O Man]

1. No.

[FiveGoodMen]

2. We should be so lucky as to get a choice like that.

[elleng]

4. Right-O!!!

[Segami]

5. Remember, this is the abstract bizzaro world posing such a question.

[MineralMan]

3. No, but I might if he turned state's evidence against Dickhead Cheeney

[annabanana]

6. Only if I could be sure Rove'd do hard time.. .no parole. . n/t

[Segami]

8. You mean like sporting a tight red dress and sharing a cell with someone called Bubbah?

[annabanana]

13. doesn't matter. . n/t

[Missy Vixen]

7. No

Scooter is the gatekeeper. He would be free to testify if he were pardoned, which is why it will never happen.

Rove won't get indicted. There isn't sufficient evidence. If there was, Fitzgerald would have done it.

[Segami]

10. What if someone is prepared to give hard facts testimony under oath and under penalty

of perjury that shows Rove was directly involved?

[Missy Vixen]

16. Who might that someone be?

I'll explain one more time.

Libby will NEVER get a pardon. He is the person that kept Bush and Cheney out of prison. To try either of them would be almost impossible because of the fact whomever representing them would be dragging national security issues (typically called "greymail"; maybe Tangerine LaBamba might want to answer this stuff,) into court and derailing any case at all.

The defense did everything they could to greymail Libby's case out of court. They couldn't get it done, because the judge in question wasn't putting up with it.

Libby would have to testify against Rove. It will never happen. Bush and Cheney, unfortunately for all of us, are walking, too. The Obama administration have other priorities.

Our only comfort in all this? If the Bushies leave the country, they'll probably be tried elsewhere.

[lpbk2713]

9. No sweetheart deals for any of the BushCo criminals AFAIC.

I'd even be in favor of suspending Statute of Limitations protection so that
the Y2K Selection thieves like Harris and Baker could be held accountable.

[Segami]

11. Actually, thats sounds like a good idea.

[joeybee12]

12. CONVICTING Karl Rove, you mean...

...I'd only agree if the indictment defintely led to a conviction.

[tridim]

14. A pardon by whom?

Obama? Absolutely not.

[Segami]

15. Even if it produced a better than great chance of convicting Rove?

[Missy Vixen]

17. You've asked this twice.

Convicting him on what? If there was evidence and corroborating witnesses, he would have been charged.

[Garbo 2004]

18. No. Rove was a bit player in Plame matter. Libby major player & protecting Cheney. Cheney & his

crew instrumental in Iraq war, Plame, push for "enhanced interrogation," etc.

So no. Look for Rove's hand in the politicization of AG, attorney firings, prosecutions and other matters. But it was Libby who drew Rove into the Plame matter just as he did Fleischer. Libby is the bigger fish in this, second only to Cheney himself. The Plame matter was an OVP operation.

Rove is the bete noir of many here, but it was those less visible like Libby, Addington in the OVP who along with Cheney were the real players in the atrocities of the war in Iraq and the "war on terror," the vast expansion of the national security state, and the expansion of presidential (and vice presidential power) into the primacy of the "unitary executive" over other branches of the gov't, the law and the Constitution itself.