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Fri Jul-24-09 05:54 PM
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Swearing has contributed much to the animosity on DU |
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IMO, I am guilty of it too. In the heat of the moment. But I've seen where it then leads to viscious name calling and useless back and forth that does nothing to add to the topic. Maybe DU would be better off if one of the rules were to ban swearing. I really think it would cut down on the nasty attacks and blanket arguments that plague this site.
I think swearing makes people on here much more emotional and defensive, and more willing to lash back out when they otherwise might not. The threads devolve into angry shouting contests.
Just my two cents.
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Fri Jul-24-09 05:56 PM
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1. Ban swearing? Fuck that shit! |
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Fri Jul-24-09 05:58 PM
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8. Watch your fucking language! |
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Fri Jul-24-09 07:42 PM
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66. I read the OP as "smearing" and |
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I could get behind that statement.
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Fri Jul-24-09 05:56 PM
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2. Fuck that. hee, hee - this will be a funny thread |
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Fri Jul-24-09 05:58 PM
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7. Ya just know this won't go well! |
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mmmm... popcorn! Care for a drink? :toast:
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:01 PM
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16. Yup, but it will be some funny shit. And hell yeah! I need a drink today. |
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Fri Jul-24-09 08:05 PM
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80. Hasn't been, so far... |
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Fri Jul-24-09 05:57 PM
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Just kidding...
I really don't care about stuff like this.
I'm just glad DU is here.
Fuckin A, man!
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Fri Jul-24-09 05:58 PM
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6. Let's also ban slang, illiteration and pig latin!!!! |
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Let's take a street sweeper to this place!
:rofl:
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Fri Jul-24-09 07:11 PM
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57. I was going the bust you for the word "illiteration", but first I checked the Urban Dictionary. |
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illiteration: the use of illiteracy and general lack of knowledge of the english language to embarass oneself. "I don't have a car. Your going to half to take me their."
You learn something new every day.
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Fri Jul-24-09 05:57 PM
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4. I swear, I think I'll have extra butter on mine. |
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:00 PM
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14. Pass the fucking junior mints! (fucking nt) |
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Fri Jul-24-09 05:58 PM
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5. If the rules that exist were enforced, and if more people would alert, it would improve |
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the atmosphere tremendously.
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:00 PM
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13. I agree with that too |
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:02 PM
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19. Just like the wider society, there is a sizeable group that enjoys uproar. |
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Without a commitment to cuttng short the uproar, it will continue, swearing or not.
Fuck it. :rofl:
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:05 PM
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I have been guilty of it too
Ill give everyone an example of what I mean.
A:I think teh South has racism problems. B: No it doesnt you dick A: fuck you you redneck small sick hillybilly B: fuck you too
the topic of racism gets completely ignored.
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47. I'm going to be serious here for a moment.... there is a BIG problem in our society, and |
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"progressives" are part of it.
We, as a people, fail to LISTEN. I don't think most people even know what it is.
Our "dialogs" consist of trying to force others to our point of view, rather than to actually HEAR the other person.
That is not the way to peace.
Our diplomats know if they are to actually change anything in other countries, they have to understand the people of that country, and they have to LISTEN to their needs and wants.
Yet, we can't bring ourselves to do that on an individual level.
AND, contrary to popular myth, one person can't change that by being the one to LISTEN... that's what we have now with the Reps and Dems.... one side being bullies, and the other side at least pretending to LISTEN.
It's all a sham and a shame, and we are all complicit.
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Fri Jul-24-09 07:01 PM
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54. but what if you know you are right |
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It's hard hearing the other side of someone who is openly racist or bigoted, for example.
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Fri Jul-24-09 07:22 PM
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58. I knew it would do no good to be serious and reasonable, but I tried. |
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Thank you for proving my point.
Before you complain about "swearing", I suggest you take a deeper look at yourself.
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Fri Jul-24-09 07:30 PM
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61. I was being very serious to your reply |
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how can you be diplomatic and look at the other side and consider their argument when their argument is racist, or bigoted, or any number of other things. Yes there are some things you can consider and listen to different points of view, such as economics, or policy matters. I dont know why you would get upset with me. Im agreeing with your posts.
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Fri Jul-24-09 07:33 PM
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62. I don't play those games, so give it up. |
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You started this thread asking people to stop with the swearing, because you wanted more peace here.
Now, when I challenge you to think about how we ALL are responsible, and the sad effect it has, you can't stand it and suddenly want to switch the focus to those awful bigoted people.
"We have met the enemy, and it is us."
You're part of the picture, whether you want to admit it or not, and I'm not going to be dragged into a silly argument to avoid the real issue.
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Fri Jul-24-09 07:39 PM
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I admitted I swear too and I can be sarcastic. And I do try to look at the other side of the argument and consider what people say. My posts reflect that for the most part. And bigots and racists are awful, I would hope you agree, but that wasnt my point. I said I thought swearing caused a lot of animosity on threads and replied in another post that it is also other things as well, such as sarcasm, attacking personalities, and other things. I don't understand. I have agreed with you so far with everything you have said, and you have brought up very good points.
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Fri Jul-24-09 07:42 PM
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65. I'm not a dude, nor am I a bigot. So, get back to your original point, or give it up. |
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Fri Jul-24-09 07:45 PM
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69. sorry about that I didn't know you were a woman. |
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My point was why are you getting upset when I am agreeing with you and what you are posting?
I said I thought swearing contributed to animosity and you replied its more than just swearing, its also not looking at the other's argument. And I agreed with you.
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Fri Jul-24-09 07:57 PM
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75. I think being antagonistic can be as bad as not listening |
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or maybe its the same thing. You obviously aren't taking your own advice.
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83. I quit listening when people start with bogus arguments. |
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Jumping from "swearing is causing antagonism" to "bigotry" is NOT straight communicating.
I have invited the poster to return to the original topic, and discuss it rationally.
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Sat Jul-25-09 01:34 PM
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89. Then you aren't taking your own advice |
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I wonder why you offer it in the first place.
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:01 PM
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17. Swearing is a proven pain reliever! |
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:01 PM
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18. I use the f-bomb all the time but only towards those like |
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Rove, Darth, etc. Never towards another DUer.
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:03 PM
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22. I don't swear in real life... |
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...I've got young kids around.
So please...I need an outlet. Don't take my online swears away...
:O
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:44 PM
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49. I swear like a sailor on DU, but not so much in real life. |
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I love the colorful language here, even if it is sometimes directed at me.
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:02 PM
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21. I don't think swearing is the problem |
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some people are just spoiling for a fight at any given time and just like to be disagreeable. I've had problems with people who were just smart asses in general, swearing didn't enter into it.
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:07 PM
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26. i bloody well think not |
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:07 PM
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27. I think you are confusing name-calling and personalizing a difference of opinion |
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with cursing.
I've read many hilariously blue threads on here over the years, people riffing off eachother.
How can I possibly allude to Rush Limbaugh? Why should I refrain from having a sense of humor? Ever hear Bill Hicks?
Usually threads devolve when someone says someone else is an idiot, or questions their intelligence.
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:12 PM
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30. The stuff you mentioned |
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are already in the rules, but I think so many people do it, most get away from it. I can be sarcastic too, which also contributes. Sarcasm can be painful. Oh well, maybe its more than just swearing.
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:49 PM
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51. I'm not even sure a lot of people intend on becoming nasty. |
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Some do, but language, I mean just writing without the visual nuance, is very limiting and points get didactic and black and white, and once people get defensive.... it can go downhill.
I'm sure I've just killed the humor in this thread (not an attack on you, btw).
The Magistrate (whoever they are) knows how to argue a point. But I curse for different reasons, humor and frustration.
My post is so not funny!
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:11 PM
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29. Way to douse the fire with a can of gas. Ethanol even. |
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:13 PM
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31. No, they need to ban ignorance. |
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:15 PM
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32. As have the rolling eyes icon and the laughter icon are used to insult. nt |
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:16 PM
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33. You get a rec from me for the DUzy quality of this thread! |
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:19 PM
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34. How would this idea affect the 'unrecommend' feature? ( n/t ) |
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:19 PM
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35. But then no one could complain about the |
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m*****f*****g snakes on the m*****f*****g plane!
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:20 PM
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36. Some motherfuckers just got no class, you know? |
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38. where do you draw the line? |
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39. Oh, shit. Now you've gone and done it. |
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:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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41. LOL....OMFG....who didn't know how this post would end up???? n/t |
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:31 PM
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42. If you don't like it then don't participate. |
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It's small-minded to get stuck on a things like that.
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:33 PM
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43. I avoid viscious name-calling because it leads to sticky situations. nt |
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:36 PM
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44. I actually swear less on DU than I do offline. |
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I swear at everything. Assholes, repubs, flowers...nothing is safe.
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I cuss a fuckload. I just don't do it when it's inappropriate.
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77. Awwww. Flowers? You make the flowers sad. |
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Now this little girl is sad too.
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Oh, alright...I'll be nice to flowers. :)
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:36 PM
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45. oh fer fuck's sake -- ban swearing? |
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What's next -- a dunce cap and a corner? Swearing isn't the problem - it's the unofficially self-designated hall monitors who want to impose their own set of values on everyone else.
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Fri Jul-24-09 07:04 PM
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55. there should be a dunce cap and a corner |
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maybe a penalty box like in hockey...lol
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:37 PM
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Edited on Fri Jul-24-09 06:38 PM by CJCRANE
It's fucking terrible.
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:40 PM
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48. Why don't you go fuck a goat! |
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Edited on Fri Jul-24-09 07:40 PM by EvolveOrConvolve
Ha, just kidding of course - I don't REALLY want you to fuck a goat. Just thought that I'd add my own vulgar mother-fucking 2 cents to the goddamn conversation. :hi:
On Edit: corrected my shitty fucking grammar.
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:45 PM
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50. bwahahahahaaa...you asked for it |
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Fri Jul-24-09 06:54 PM
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53. wtf dude, are you high? |
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Fri Jul-24-09 07:06 PM
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56. Swearing is not the same thing as name calling or personal attacks. |
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Fri Jul-24-09 07:24 PM
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59. I haven't seen much of what you're describing.... |
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The DUers whom I am reading seem to get the most emotional about issues or personal attacks. Most "swearing" passes without a ripple. I do it too. Usually I am swearing about the Repubs or some idiotic conservative policy that makes me want to tear metal with my teeth.
Does swearing bother you particularly? If so you need to realize that other people often do not share your sensibilities and perhaps make allowances or block the people who offend you the most. You have that option here.
I don't believe in censorship; not in what I read, see, hear or say. Sometimes animosity becomes a part of a discussion whether anyone is swearing or not. It is the nature of discourse, and people can handle it. I don't like the thought of banning anything. Are you the same poster who wanted to have "banned" websites? That wasn't a very good idea either. People need to be free to explore all types of information expressed in all kinds of ways. Otherwise how do we learn? George Bush was always saying that he would tell us what we needed to know. I didn't go for that either.
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Fri Jul-24-09 07:26 PM
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60. I swear alot, but not at DUers. That would be rude. nt |
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Fri Jul-24-09 07:40 PM
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64. How's this thread working out for ya? |
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Fri Jul-24-09 07:42 PM
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67. What th fuck were you thinking when you posted this shit pile? n/t |
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68. Individuals who swear |
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or, worse, contribute nothing to the discussion except swearing, show how much they lack in their ability to comprehend, to conclude and to articulate any thought, if at all, that occurs someplace between their ears.
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When words become heated, tempers flare. Basic cause and effect.
I wouldn't support a ban... but if there was less swearing, I sure would feel more relaxed when my oldest daughter and I navigate DU together. I see her eyes light up when she discovers new concepts that we find here.
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Fri Jul-24-09 07:51 PM
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71. There's just one thing, Dude... |
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Do you have to use so many cuss words?
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Fri Jul-24-09 07:53 PM
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72. I've only sworn at a member ONCE on DU |
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And I currently have that poster on ignore.
And judging by the "ignored" posts that member has since made, it seems I was right in both cussing and ignoring them.
At my advanced age, I can no longer stomach fools.
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97. let me try - $%^#&FUCK*&@# |
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The more tools you have, that better.
If you can't handle adult discussions (however childish they may be) go Teletubbies Underground. You won't find any swearing there. Not for lack of trying on my part. Fucking TU mods.
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82. Oh, look. Another fucking wet-behind-the-ears self-appointed forum god. |
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Sat Jul-25-09 02:41 PM
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94. Wow, that is quite a list |
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My eyes will never be the same....:evilgrin:
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Sat Jul-25-09 02:54 PM
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98. Such lists are becoming more common ... |
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... in filtering replies and comments to various on-line forums.
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Fri Jul-24-09 08:24 PM
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84. There isn't enough swearing in this fucking forum, dammit all to hell. |
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Fri Jul-24-09 08:26 PM
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85. mom are you posting and drinking again? |
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Fri Jul-24-09 08:54 PM
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87. Fuckity fuckity fuck fuck fuck |
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Banning swearing won't do a thing to civilize discourse. Look at Free Republic where swearing is forbidden--it's a fucking cesspool.
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Fri Jul-24-09 09:31 PM
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88. I say this with love: Fuck yer two cents, buddy. |
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Seriously, how much animosity comes from people like you telling other grownups how to speak?
Looking at only two threads that are currently dealing with the exact same subject, I'd say it's approximately a shitload.
Regulate yer kids. Regulate yerself. But leave me the fuck alone.
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Sat Jul-25-09 01:40 PM
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90. heck, I like to swear at times too |
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but I do know what your saying, I've had similar thoughts myself.
At times it goes way over the top here.
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Is Maternal Zog-Zogger okay to use when chatting with the occasional stray reich winger?
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Sat Jul-25-09 01:51 PM
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92. I look upon politics and politicians about the same way as bubble wrap. |
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Profanity is essential, at least in thought, but if either refuse to be reasoned with, or are expected to behave in a beneficial manner, verbalizing can sometimes help the victim if not make a dent in the perpetrators.
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Sat Jul-25-09 02:39 PM
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93. Unfortunately, for your argument, the intelligence level of the average DU |
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poster is sufficient that prohibiting their ability to utilize expletives will NOT inhibit their ability to insult or inflame their fellow site members.
Personally, I feel that anyone who needs to prosthelytize on this topic of moral censorship should go post in the 'Religious/Theology' forum and leave the rest of us heathens to wallow in our depraved word choice.
Or, in a more succint, vernacular term: Fuck Off.
Thank you for your cooperation.
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Seriously, what a bunch of whiny titty babies Americans have become. I didn't have HBO when the Sopranos came out so I have to watch the censored reruns on A&E. Why can't I watch an adult show that uses adult language? I don't know, prolly because some people sit and wring their hands that I might hear on tv the same language that adults use. The travel chanel gives an adult disclaimer (quick, get your kids out of the room!) before Anthony Bordain's show, I still haven't figured out why. Then there is politics. AAs have to talk censor their speech so they won't scare the white folk, same for women to men, LGBT to straights, atheists to believers, Democrats to republicans.
Ban the language that adults use? Screw that. What we need to do is grow up.
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99. People need to stop and think, and remember that we are on the same team here. |
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100. goddam it fuck no! Shit, people get emotional and defensive and swear. |
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you seem to have it backwards.
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