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B2G Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:13 PM
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Is a true race war a possibility?
In your opinion?

I don't know. It feels like a pressure cooker right now.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:14 PM
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1. No, and very idea is silly beyond words.
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B2G Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:15 PM
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3. Why?
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:18 PM
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5. For the same reason a war of the sexes is silly beyond words
the people who would actually come to blows are the fringe whackos. The rest of us are pissed, but we continue to fight for equality like civilized human beings.
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B2G Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:20 PM
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8. Are we really more civilized
than we were 40 years ago? Have we evolved that much?

I guess 'war' is the wrong word. 'Serious unrest' maybe.
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B2G Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:23 PM
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13. OK, I worded that wrong
By 'race war', I'm thinking back to the Civil Rights movement era. There was alot of violence.

For my generation...we don't remember what that was like. My question is have we evolved to the point where that type of reaction isn't possible? Cops with firehoses, those types of thing. Have we moved beyond the violence?
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:21 PM
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10. Because ethnic groups are not monolithic blocs
Like if white and black people start shooting at each other, am I going to join in with one group just because I'm white? what about the fact that my in-laws are Asian and I'm European, rather than American? Even in the case of a single individual the permutations can become complicated.
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B2G Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:25 PM
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15. YOU are capable of having such thoughts
Sadly, alot of people aren't.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:54 PM
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25. And who exactly are these people who aren't capable of rational thought?
Please, do explain exactly WHICH people you think lack self control, and who would instigate this race war?

Been hanging around Stormfront too much?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:23 PM
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12. Because very few people would even consider being part of it.
Edited on Fri Jul-24-09 11:33 PM by TexasObserver
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:15 PM
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2. OOO Yeah.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:15 PM
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4. Only in GOP redneck dreams. nt
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vixengrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:19 PM
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6. I wouldn't know what side to be on--anyone else?
I'm fond of the human race, myself.
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 04:17 AM
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35. Citizen of Planet Earth here
everybody is my brother/sister... yer stuck with me
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:20 PM
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7. What exactly is a "true race war"?
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:20 PM
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9. humans vs. bears
which side are ya on?
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 04:19 AM
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36. Humans have the right to bear arms
but they have the right to arm bears....
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:21 PM
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11. I have never had a war going on. Treat people the way you want to
be treated.
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WillieW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:41 PM
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19. Exactly!
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:25 PM
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14. No.
If it was, it would have already happened by now.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:37 PM
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16. As opposed to a fake one?
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:38 PM
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17. Oh please, a "pressure cooker"?
Are there National Guardsmen enforcing curfew in your town? In any town?

Do they have rumor control hotlines in your town? In any town?

Are the police all lined up on the racial dividing line? (I suppose the white cops would be on one side and the black cops on the other and the mixed race cops could run back and forth with doughnuts)

Are all the white men at neighborhood patrol meetings?

Are all the black men doing whatever it was they were doing while the white men were at neighborhood patrol meetings (I only got to see this from one side the last time)?
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 12:54 AM
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32. not in seattle
"Are the police all lined up on the racial dividing line? (I suppose the white cops would be on one side and the black cops on the other and the mixed race cops could run back and forth with doughnuts)". we do muffins here, not doughnuts. also, dont forget the asian cops. they will be supplying kimchi. personally, i would supply my homemade cucumer kimchi. it can double as a pepper spray like irritant in a pinch. it's THAT HOT!
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:39 PM
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18. Yeah
it's called "Los Angeles"
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:46 PM
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22. There is that.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:47 PM
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23. But that's more like a feud (not that it's any consolation to the families of the casualties)
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Umbral Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:43 PM
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20. Helter Skelter?
Sure it's possible - in the mind of Charles Manson.
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ShamelessHussy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:45 PM
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21. Hell no.
Sure, there are a few whackos out there but they are a real tiny minority and too afraid to even represent at their pitiful "teabag "rally's"

Unless you mean a race for the remaining oil deposits, then Hell yeah... that war is already on.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:48 PM
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24. You wanna start one or something?
Count me out.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 11:57 PM
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26. white power idiots in bunkers
pray for it everyday.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 12:01 AM
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27. Pressure cooker, really? I think race relations are quite good right now.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 12:17 AM
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28. It's class warfare
and it's happening right now in this country.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 12:35 AM
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29. Only in the fantasies of old white men.
And meth-head neoidjits
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 12:44 AM
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30. That would be hard.....
My family would have to fight itself. Not healthy. :eyes:
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 12:51 AM
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31. rely on data, not how you "feel"
i've been in law enforcement for 20 yrs. i'm privy to a lot of national intel about race related crimes, etc. as well as local stuff. i see exactly ZERO evidence of any pressure cooker right now. in fact, despite the economy, i'm not seeing any serious crime concerns. data matters more than feelings. is it a possibility? sure. anything's a possibility. is it even remotely likely? no
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 01:07 AM
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33. No.
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 04:15 AM
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34. I think the right wing would love it...
and I see similarities in some of their rhetoric lately saying shit and inciting stuff that it would make them "right", kinda like what Cheney was doing with "another attack coming" so he could say "see I told you so" But no, I have faith that we have come so far, and that we are all "citizens of the planet earth". I think that hard times like we are in turns up the heat, but I think an economic war is more likely, where people get so sick of wealth disparity, that there will be more property crime and theft, but moreover, it will be a war of unity against the status quo, and hopefully, those on the right will see that we have a common enemy, that capitalism fucks the right and left poor indiscriminately and get on board for UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE... but I ain't holding my breath..
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 04:19 AM
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37. There will be no race war. There could a war based on ideologies...
I see no reason to believe there will be war waged based on race.
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 04:22 AM
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38. Besides...
No money in a race war... now Iraq.. Afghanistan...plenty money being made off that by Haliburton!
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 04:52 AM
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39. no not now. but i do think slavery will return this century in the US
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 05:03 AM
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41. slavery will return to the U.S. this century? Really? Please explain.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 09:03 AM
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44. not black people enslaved per se-poor people
when the oil is gone society will be way different, feudalism. Face it, the foundation is being set now for a society that will be anything but democratic. There will be a very small ruling class and serfs,not much in between. So the possibility of some form of slavery seems all too clear imo. Please don't be angry , this is just my opinion.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 09:47 AM
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48. Prison labor is pretty close.
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1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 04:58 AM
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40. no. there will be no race wars. there will be no general strikes. this is america...
not france...

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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 05:21 AM
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42. I doubt it. nt
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 06:38 AM
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43. this is nothing compared to the sixties.
we made it through that, we'll make it through this.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 09:07 AM
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45. Not over Gates, but that certainly escalates the tension.
I think Obama's invite for a beer is an excellent step forward in easing tensions and maybe even promote some understanding.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 09:25 AM
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46. No, but wouldn't Hispanics be a likely target, if there was? After all,
they are the largest (and fastest growing) minority group.

Some on the left and right accuse a large number (a minority of Hispanics to be sure, but millions nonetheless) of them of coming here to take "our" jobs and depress our wages. Demonization of this subgroup of Hispanics could, over time, morph into a more generalized mindset against all Hispanics. Working class Blacks and whites could be convinced that Hispanics were "unfair" competition for their jobs and lowered their wages. It's often easier (and more distracting) to blame problems on the "others" than to correct the system that is the root cause of the problems.

I don't think that a race war is at all likely, but in some circles it is more "acceptable" to be critical of Hispanics or Asians than it is of African Americans. In most places Asians aren't numerous enough to generate much of a reaction, but Hispanics are.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 09:27 AM
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47. What a stupid question.
The only people asking this are white power nuts and limpballs.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 01:23 PM
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49. Could it be one white guy and one black guy

giving each other weird looks as they pass each other on the street?

You seem to be lowering your expectations of a race war the longer this thread gets. I beat that's all it turns out to be.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 01:28 PM
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50. Go jack-off to your race war fantasies somewhere else plz.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 01:30 PM
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51. No.
If there wasn't one in the '60s, there won't be one now.
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