CIA Domestic Operations Division: DU collaborative thread II

[bobthedrummer]

the first discussion thread about the CIA's Domestic Operations Division is archived--but let's continue with a discussion about what the CIA does domestically regardless of it's charter and the law.

For background to this thread the link to the archived GD thread is below.
"CIA Domestic Operations Division: A DU collaborative thread" (started 7-18-09)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6095958

Aside from "recruitment", political mind control, narcotics, human trafficking and "extraordinary rendition" what activities does the CIA engage in domestically?

[bobthedrummer]

1. Recruitment on campuses by the CIA was an issue in the 1960's too

It's different in the 21st Century...

"CIA launches recruitment drive on internet and TV" by Tim Reid (3-31-09 Times Online)
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6011186.ece

Where else but at US colleges and universities can the CIA scoop out the best and the brightest?

Where can the CIA find their loyal honeytraps???

[dgibby]

2. Military.

Back in the day, Nike Missle sites were fertile recruting grounds.

[bobthedrummer]

3. Oh for sure-there were all the folks in uniform that were "loaned" as needed-once Agency always...

[starroute]

9. CIA college scholarships

https://www.cia.gov/careers/jobs/view-all-jobs/undergraduate-scholarship-program.html

Applications for the Undergraduate Scholarship Program are accepted from August 1 - October 15.

If you are a high school senior planning to enroll in a 4-or 5-year college program, or you are a college sophomore enrolled in a 4-or 5-year college program, who is looking for career experience in a dynamic environment, apply to the CIA's Undergraduate Scholar Program and contribute to the work of the nation before you graduate.

The Undergraduate Scholar Program was developed, in part, to assist minority and disabled students, but application is open to all students who meet the requirements. The program offers unmatched experience. You'll complete work sessions during each summer break, increasing your knowledge and job responsibilities while assisting intelligence professionals and applying your academic skills.

We believe in challenging our Scholars with meaningful work that relates to their college major. An IT major, for example, might be given increasingly complex projects involving sophisticated computer systems. An engineering major might help produce a piece of state-of-the-art equipment. A finance major could be involved in developing and analyzing budgets for a worldwide operation. A foreign language major might be instrumental in translating documents for US policymakers. As a final example, a human resource major could have the opportunity to develop and implement personnel policies and procedures.

Once selected, you will be given an annual salary; a benefits package that includes health insurance, life insurance, and retirement; and up to $18,000 per calendar year for tuition, mandatory fees, books and supplies. You'll be required to work at an Agency facility during summer breaks and to maintain full-time college status during the school year with a minimum cumulative 3.0/4.0 GPA.We will pay the cost of transportation between school and the Washington, DC area each summer and provide a housing allowance.

Because the Scholar Program is an investment in you, accepting an offer means making a career choice. We ask that you agree to continue employment with the Agency after college graduation for a period equal to 1.5 times the length of your college sponsorship.

[bobthedrummer]

4. Both US psychiatric and psychological professional organizations( APA's)

are full of self-proclaimed "master mind fuckers"

The neurosciences are a growth part of the Agency too.

"Tortured Profession: Psychologists Warned of Abusive Interrogations, Then Helped Craft Them"
by Sheri Fink (5-5-09 Pro Publica)

http://www.propublica.org/article/tortured-profession-psychologists-warned-of-abusive-interrogations-505

Why the CIA even developed it's own forms of non-physical torture.

"In Contravention of Conventional Wisdom" by Cheryl Welsh (January 2008 Mind Justice)

http://www.mindjustice.org/wisdom.htm

[bobthedrummer]

5. Declassified MKULTRA Project Documents-kind of prima facie when it comes to mind control "research"

that Richard McGarrah Helms was so keen on involving the CIA in beginning in 1953.

Michael-Robinett.com has a page of MKULTRA docs available for public viewing
http://michael-robinett.com/declass/c000.htm

But there is no torture, and there is no mind control.

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[bobthedrummer]

7. I promise not to post anymore about MKULTRA in this thread-I want to hear from others

about what the CIA has been up to since 1947 right here in our country.

I need to hear from you, DU.

There is no mind control, there is no torture.

There are the domestic "political dissidents" that became "international terrorists" at the stroke of a powerful operational description name change when MHCHAOS became The International Terrorism Group as one of the final acts of Richard McGarrah Helms as DCI after Watergate.

Good old Operation MHCHAOS-that was Richard Nixon's contribution to a RW policestate--and it's been privatized today by the same intelligence industry that doesn't torture nor influence your mind...

MHCHAOS-it would be nice to hear what someone has to say about that travesty of democracy that never stopped infecting the body politic...

[starroute]

8. Venture capitalism -- In-Q-Tel

I haven't checked that out in a couple of years, but here are some links:

Official site here: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/additional-publications/in-q-tel/index.html

CNET story here: http://news.cnet.com/The-secret-behind-the-CIAs-venture-capital-arm/2008-1082_3-5728548.html

When I last looked into it in 2006, there'd been some funny stuff going on among people connected with it -- the apparent suicide of Rick Yannuzzi, the sudden resignation of Amit Yoran.

It may be no more than it seems -- somebody's bright idea for how to get more shiny new tech toys for the spooks to play with -- but it's worth having another look at.

[bobthedrummer]

14. Privatization of everything-that fascist wind is still blowing our way starroute-it's "private" now.

"Banksters and military-security gangsters are ruling America" by Paul Craig Roberts (5-15-09 Online Journal)
http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_4701.shtml

"Outsourcing Intelligence in Iraq: A Corp Watch Report on L-3/Titan, updated December 2008 with Recommendations from Amnesty International" by Pratap Chatterjee (Corp Watch)
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=15253

[troubledamerican]

10. Cocaine trafficking

[bobthedrummer]

16. As a teenage highschool musician growing up in Milwaukee I've always had suspicions about the source

of all those pschedelics-especially LSD-25, or, as Richard McGarrah Helms had a code for it for federal accounting purposes--some of the CIA's LSD was described as "EA 1729".

Investigative journalist Michael Ravnitzky published a page of government reports about EA 1729, or LSD on October 6, 1998 below's a link to that Ravnitzky post.

Selected Reports on LSD
http://www.hoboes.com/pub/Prohibition/Drug%20Information/LSD/Selected%20Reports%20on%20LSD

This is the same Michael Ravnitzky that sued under FOIA to obtain a list of CIA Inspector General Investigation Reports-which are still available at The Memory Hole.

"List of CIA Inspector General Investigations (heavily redacted) Beginning 1997 through October 2004.
http://www.thememoryhole.com/cia/cia-ig_investigations.htm

EA 1729 aka blue flats, orange barrels, purple wedges, white lightening, Owsley, orange sunshine...

[bobthedrummer]

24. Many citizens were unwitting 'Experimental Subjects"-and still are

"It's bizarre but true: Nonconsensual human experiments have been legal for nearly twenty years.

How did this happen and how is it that most experts, the media, and the public did not find out until now?"

by Cheryl Welsh JD (June 2009 Mind Justice)
http://www.mindjustice.org/legalhuman.htm

[Octafish]

11. The Buchenwald touch.

Can't get enough of forget that NAZI-CIA Old Boys Nutwork tie.

CIA 'destroyed files on radiation victims':

The public may never know full details of secret experiments on Americans during the Cold War

PATRICK COCKBURN in Washington
The Independent
Wednesday, 5 January 1994

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NormalLargeExtra LargeTHE CIA has destroyed many of its files on radiation tests carried out on individuals so the full extent of the programme may never be known. The destruction of the records will hamper the task force set up by President Bill Clinton to investigate the secret radiation experiments which took place during the Cold War.

The studies on the effects of radiation were part of a programme carried out by the CIA between 1953 and 1967 according to Steven Aftergood of the Federation of American Scientists. He said it would be impossible to find out the exact number of radiation victims 'because the CIA destroyed a large part of its records in 1973'. Some tests were conducted without the consent of subjects, and some reportedly occurred as late as the 1970s.

The CIA did not attend a meeting convened by Mr Clinton at the White House on Monday, which set up a fact-finding body to to look into the radiation experiments. Its destruction of old records in 1973 may have been to pre-empt investigation by Congress at a moment when the agency was under increasing attack.

In Washington at least 10,000 people a day are telephoning a special Energy Department hotline to establish if they were affected by the tests. Detailed revelations about testing by the US Energy Secretary, Hazel O'Leary, coming after years of official details that anybody's health has been damaged, have alarmed many people who believe they might have been unwitting victims of the experiments.

SNIP...

Little of the information is entirely new but, for the first time, the identity of many of the victims has been revealed, dramatising what happened and fuelling media interest. In the small town of Italy in Texas, for instance, neighbours thought that Elmer Allen, an alcoholic former railway porter who had lost a leg, was mad because he claimed he had been 'used as a guinea pig' in a government experiment.

CONTINUED...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/cia-destroyed-files-on-radiation-victims-the-public-may-never-know-full-details-of-secret-experiments-on-americans-during-the-cold-war-1397987.html

Yup.

[bobthedrummer]

31. I know that this is as good a place as any to repost one of my favorite threads

"Hey RUMSFELD! Who's your NAZI?" (started by Octafish 9-2-06)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2039009

That thread is another tutorial on some of the CIA's domestic operations for those of US that "know"

[Octafish]

12. Creating pretext for Cold War

As far from the Good Shepherd as angels can fly:

Rheinhardt Gehlen

EXCERPT...

On Gehlen and the origins of the Cold War:

Spy master Reinhardtt Gehlen, for example, created the rationale for starting the Cold War out of whole cloth. As we now know, had the Red Army actually been intending to continue their drive westward, as Gehlen said they did, they would not have been tearing up railroad track in front of themselves. They relied heavily on rail to transport their troops. Our leaders didn't know; they believed Gehlen, and acted accordingly. <2>

CONTINUED...

http://www.buddhistpeacegroup.org/pnac/gehlen.html

http://www.mail-archive.com/[e-mail]/msg05117.html

What's that about a 1-percent solution?

Documents Show CIA Covered Up Nazi War Crimes During Cold War

Declassified Documents Give a Window Into U.S. Intelligence

By HOPE YEN

WASHINGTON, June 6, 2006 — - Determined to win the Cold War, the CIA kept quiet about the whereabouts of Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann in the 1950s for fear he might expose undercover anticommunist efforts in West Germany, according to documents released Tuesday.

The 27,000 pages released by the National Archives are among the largest post-World War II declassifications by the CIA. They offer a window into the shadowy world of U.S. intelligence -- and the efforts to use former Nazi war criminals as spies, sometimes to detrimental effect.

The war criminals "peddled hearsay and gossip, whether to escape retribution for past crimes, or for mercenary gain, or for political agendas not necessarily compatible with American national interests," Robert Wolfe, an expert on German history and former archivist at the National Archives, said at a news briefing announcing the document release.

In a March 19, 1958, memo to the CIA, West German intelligence officials wrote that they knew where Eichmann was hiding. Eichmann played a key role in transporting Jews to death camps during World War II. "He is reported to have lived in Argentina under the alias 'Clemens' since 1952," authorities wrote.

But neither side acted on that information because they worried what he might say about Hans Globke, a highly placed former Nazi and a chief adviser in West Germany helping the U.S. coordinate anticommunist initiatives in that country.

CONTINUED...

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20060606&slug=webnazi06

Original source now canned:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=2046720&page=1

Of course, guns cost a lot of busser.

US nuclear tab at $5.8 trillion

South News July 1

Washington: In an enormous drain on resources the United States has spent $5.8 trillion on nuclear weapons according to a new study

A four-year study of newly declassified Pentagon documents, released yesterday by the Brookings Institute, looked at the expenditures of producing and deploying nuclear explosives over the past 5 1/2 decades with current spending on the arsenal at about $35 billion annually, or roughly 15 percent of the total defense budget.

Since the birth of the atomic weapons program in 1940, a total of $5.5 trillion was spent through 1996, the Washington think tank reports. That is 29 percent of all U.S. military spending and almost 11 percent of all government spending through the 52 years.

In the first comprehensive audit of the US nuclear arsenal,it calculated costs for research, development, deployment, command and control, defenses and dismantlement. The U.S. government has never attempted to track these costs, and whether the weapons helped to bring down the Soviet Union, against whom most of the arms were aimed after World War II, remains an open question, Stephen I. Schwartz, chairman of the four-year study, said in the report.

"Given the significant sums expended on nuclear weapons and their central role in the cold war, it is striking that so few have expressed an interest in either the cumulative or the annual costs,'' Schwartz wrote.

CONTINUED...

http://southmovement.alphalink.com.au/southnews/980701-USnukes.htm

No surprise to bobthedrummer, leveymg, blm and a hell of a lot of DUers and former DUers who give a damn.

[bobthedrummer]

13. You're right-there are no restrictions to the BFEE--many of us that "know" have learned from

you, Octafish. Another reason I'm still here-plus the 45 million article/thread archive.


There's private eyes in the skies above us, brother. I'll bet some of the highly politicized geo-targeting comes from CIA Domestic Ops.

"U.S. Reconnaissance Satellites: Domestic Targets" (The National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book #229)
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB229/index.htm

More on those professional self-proclaimed "masters of the mind fuck" below

"The CIA's torture teachers. Psychologists helped the CIA exploit a secret military program to develop brutal interrogation tactics-likely with the approval of the Bush White House." by Mark Benjamin (6-21-07 Salon)
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/06/21/cia_sere/print.html

[bobthedrummer]

15. Chapter One of Angus Mackenzie's "Secrets: The CIA's War at Home"

Angus died of brain cancer (1994) prior to the 1997 publication of "Secrets"-it was the result of loving work by his friends that the 15 year old study of national security abuse featuring The Central Intelligence Agency, was brought before we, the people.

(Third World Traveler page of "Secrets: The CIA's War at Home" by Angus Mackenzie excerpts)

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/Secrets_CIAWarAtHome.html

[bobthedrummer]

17. I going offline until tomorrow-I hope to see some of your views about the CIA Domestic ops...

so until then this thread is in DU's hands.

[bobthedrummer]

18. Thanks for your participation DU! Here are a few related threads

from the past week or so to get you primed-up to discuss what the CIA's Domestic Operations Division may have been up to in your neighborhood in the past 46 years or so.

"Cheney's assassination program, what if they were private contractors?" (started by arcadian)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6093785

"Report: 'No geographical limitations' on CIA assassination program" (started by robertpaulson)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3972361

"All 5 of the Watergate burglars who broke into Democratic headqurters were CIA operatives" (started by NNNOLHI)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6104319

"William Colby stipulated to 'foreign assassination plots' to protect what?" (started by MinM)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x463349

[AntiFascist]

19. Control of the Media....

Notice in this article how a CIA operative provided all of the background information available about Lee Harvey Oswald shortly after the JFK assassination:

http://www.realhistoryarchives.com/media/ciamedia.htm

A note about Hendrix - he was the one who Seth Kantor, reporting on the JFK assassination, was told to call for 'background' on Oswald after Oswald's arrest. Hendrix, from Miami, had all the info on Oswald's pro-Castro leafleting activities in New Orleans, details about Oswald's defection to the Soviet Union, etc.

Only years later did Kantor realize the significance of a guy like Hendrix, CIA, having so much info on Oswald so soon after the assassination.

One wonders, what role did CIA journalists play shortly after 9-11?

[bobthedrummer]

20. It's called perception management-and the Bush/Cheney criminals even acknowledged that psychological

operations (illegal in The United States of America) had inexplicably found their way from foreign targets to our MSM

Yep, that's why so many of us get news from outside US MSM-which draws attention from all those domestic programs--and may get you put on a watch list or something far worse.

[AntiFascist]

21. A lot of it also has to do with internal corporate politics....

as the media companies are consolidated into larger monopolies, journalists must fear the consequences if their reporting does not meet approval. This is where the nexus of corporate-government-CIA becomes dangerous when it works against the people, or prevents the truth from coming out. Psychological techniques also come into play. For example, just because I used the word "truth" someone may now come along and call me a "truther", as if accusing the media of not covering the complete truth behind 9-11 makes one a defacto member of the "truther" movement, which can be easily marginalized.

[bobthedrummer]

30. "Perception management" is a lot of things - none of them belong in a democracy-- neither do psy

ops

"Lost History: CIA's Perception Management" by Robert Parry
http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/lost12.html

"Reframing Perception Space (P-Space): A Quick Overview of a Unifying Concept" by Col. Michael McKim USAFR (ret) (USAF/Air University/Air War College)
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/awc/reframing-p-space.htm

Operation MOCKINGBIRD page (Spartacus Schoolnet)
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKmockingbird.htm

[New Dawn]

22. Everyone should check out the CIA on Campus website.

http://www.cia-on-campus.org/

[bobthedrummer]

23. Thanks for linking to another great open source, New Dawn.

Here's yet another DU thread to ponder when it comes to CIA domestic activities

"Internal Rifts on Road to Torment-Interviews Offer More Nuanced Look At Roles of CIA Contractors" (started by kpete)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6101849

[Raskolnik]

25. Bake sales. n/t

[bobthedrummer]

26. Thrift stores operated by organized religions used as Agency fronts? It's been done. n/t

[Raskolnik]

27. The CIA runs thrift stores!? Holy crap!

The old lady working at the White Elephant always *is* kind of suspicious whenever I go in there and start talking about my work on targeting guidance systems for ballistic missiles.

Figures.

[bobthedrummer]

28. "Bake sales" you like pie Raskolnik-like the ones on N. Wells? eom

[Raskolnik]

29. I'm not at all certain what that means. n/t

[bobthedrummer]

32. So what have you got to say about the ongoing work of the CIA's Domestic Operations Division, DU?

More importantly, what are you doing about the CRIMES committed behind the shield of NATIONAL SECURITY?

I know one thing that is feared by these criminals is the simple reporting of who, what, when and where to the WORLD media-and then all the corrupted officials at every level of "government" can "explain" why no action was taken to prevent the harm done to Americans by Americans entrusted with protecting US.

So here's another kick for the weekend-I'd like to hear from you, DU, about this--even from the various operatives here.

[bobthedrummer]

33. "Good CIA, bad CIA and the root cause of the 'intelligence failure'" (started 5-31-04)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1695779