Which do you want more in politics?

[RB TexLa]

[CanonRay]

1. Both?

[MADem]

2. I agree--one's no good without the other. Who wants to tilt at windmills. NT

[RB TexLa]

3. If you can convince people to stand up for Dem politicians when they have ethical issues

that can happen but some here seem to just wait, drooling at the mouth to show everyone how fast they can turn on Democrats at the first indictment.

[timeforpeace]

4. Less of it.

[RB TexLa]

5. Less winning or less ethics?

[lumberjack_jeff]

6. You don't get to demonstrate your ethics unless you win.

"Worthy opponents" don't get to create policy.

[RB TexLa]

7. I see our F'ing ethics choir is singing loud today.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

8. Ethics + politicians = Teeth + canaries.

"When politics enter . . . government, nothing resulting there from in the way of crimes and infamies is then incredible. It actually enables one to accept and believe the impossible."

"In . . . politics people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing."

"The government of my country snubs honest simplicity, but fondles artistic villainy, and I think I might have developed into a very capable pickpocket if I had remained in the public service a year or two."

"Right here in this heart and home and fountain-head of law, this great factory where are forged those rules that create good order and compel virtue and honesty in the other communities of the land, rascality achieves its highest perfection."

"History has tried to teach us that we can't have good government under politicians.  Now, to go and stick one at the very head of government couldn’t be wise."

"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself."

Mark Twain