(How do they come up with this stuff?) LTTE: Euthanasia hidden in health care bill?

[Kadie]

I just read this LTTE in one of the Calif newspapers.

Thursday, Jul. 23, 2009
Euthanasia hidden in health care bill?


As a baby boomer who is officially becoming a senior citizen this year, you can imagine my dismay when I became aware of part of President Barack Obama's proposed health care plan, namely the mandatory counseling for seniors every five years, more often if we should be sick or in a rest home.

Besides recognizing the obvious invasion of privacy and choice, I have two questions: Who would provide the counseling? And what is the purpose?

Three little words jumped out at me — end of life. So, will someone be encouraging me to see that I have lived my life and should step aside to let the younger people use our now-limited resources? Of course, I should look at this as poetic justice. The generation that legalized aborting its children will now be euthanized by them. Are you concerned? I am.





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Someone posted this information in response...

http://blumenauer.house.gov/images/stories/documents/myth%20vs%20fact.pdf

[Mz Pip]

1. This person needs to stop

talking to his imaginary friends.

Depression in the elderly is a serious problem in our society. This sounds much more like an attempt to prevent elder suicide rather than encourage it.

Here's alink to snopes with is already debunking this meme.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/euthanasia.asp

[napi21]

2. From the hearings I watched, there was no discussion about

euthansia, but there WAS discussion about making it mandatory for everyone to have a living will. There are countless people who are put on life support for who knows how long, and it's against THEIR wishes. Most of the time nobody knows the patients wishes and the children demand life support out of guilt or simply not being willing to make that difficult decision.

FWIW, I've already told my husband & kids "ABSOLUTELY NO LIFE SUPPORT FOR ME!" The last time my son & I had this discussion I told him "If you ever do anything like that to me I swear I'll find a way to come back and haunt you till the day you die!"

There are others who feel differently, but that should be THEIR DECISION. The only objection I heard to the mandatory living will durint the hearings was how much was it going to cost the patient. One Dem had hers done by an attorney and she said it was pretty pricy, but others explained that they had done theirs via an online form and it was free.

[Kadie]

5. It is so hard for the family when someone doesn't express their wishes.

My mom had a stroke and we did not know what she would have wanted. We did our best. When my father became ill, he and I had a very long detailed conversation and all of our decisions were based on his wishes.

My husband and I have everything written out. I didn't want our kids to ever have the burden of making the kind of decisions I had to for my mom.

[napi21]

10. I agree with you and we did the same thing. I thought it was a great idea to demand that everybody

who is on any gov't med. pln have a living will. at would save a lo of gief on all sides

[Kadie]

18. Exactly.

I would think that everyone would want a living will if they were given the opportunity to have one or help paying for one.


:shrug:

[ejpoeta]

12. it is tough when you don't know. when my dad went into the hospital,

and he wasn't very lucid, my sisters who (thank god he had at least signed a health proxy) were left to decide for him had to decide all kinds of things. none of us really knew what he wanted, though.... and he was diagnosed with cancer and had three months and then less time than that even.... we had to decide about tubes and such. we just didn't want him to suffer. I tell bob all the time what I want... and since my dad died I want to make sure we get it in writing!!

[gmoney]

15. Might also discuss pre-planning funerals...

Again, if the person can make their wishes known ahead of time, that can save grieving families a lot of time, hard decisions, and money. Even if it's not a formal pre-paid plan or anything... just a discussion and notes taken...

[GeorgeGist]

3. Someone concerned about being euthanized by aborted children ...

is no concern of mine.

[Kadie]

7. !

I didn't read it that way the first time. Now I do!

[tj2001]

4. NEXT: Health care bill includes funding for human sacrifice and Satan worship

Health care is evil, I tell ya

"EDIT, WHY HASN'T THE GUVMINT PAID MY MEDICARE BILLS?"

[prolesunited]

6. Fear, fear, fear is all they got.

Yes, the government is going to kill you because you're old.

The irony here is that there is *documented evidence* that thousands die needlessly each year because they don't have affordable access the health care system. I guess those actual real people with families and friends simply don't matter in comparison with this person's imagined fears.

It really pisses me off.

[spanone]

8. i can't even respond to this magnitude of stupidity

[emulatorloo]

9. thank goodness snopes.com was right on this one. EOM

[Bjorn Against]

11. A lady I work with made this exact accusation a few days ago.

I told her that she was full of crap and asked her where she got this information. Want to guess what her response was?

Fox News.

[ejpoeta]

13. you know, i want to tell people like that that there is no excuse these days for

this misinformation!! we have the internet and can find out the truth about anything by just looking it up. don't just take anyone's word for it!! not fox news, not msnbc... not your local station.... it doesn't take much to get actual factual information nowadays.

[Kadie]

16. That figures.

:eyes:

I was telling my husband about the ltte I posted, he first comment was the info must have come from hannity.

[undeterred]

14. And everyone will be forced to smoke pot when they turn 68.

[Kadie]

17. Somthing to look forward to

:rofl: