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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:53 PM Original message |
Poll question: Should someone who kills people while driving drunk get the death penalty? |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. I've seen a lot in my time on DU |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I've seen arguments here that we "coddle criminals" in this country... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. It's the week-end |
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redwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
40. A real progressive stance. |
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enzymatic (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #1 |
86. So are you happy with our drunk driving laws? |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #86 |
96. clearly, those are the only choices |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
3. Without getting into the death penalty debate itself.... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Premeditation means thinking about killing someone |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. If you go to a bar and get shit faced, knowing you have to drive home |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Not unless you thought about killing someone |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 07:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
43. More like malice aforethought |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
52. No it's just stupid. |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 05:40 AM Response to Reply #10 |
78. No.... |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. "Felony Murder" is usually charged when someone is killed in the commission of a felony. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. It can be a felony in Oregon |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. What about if a person talking on a cell phone causes a wreck with fatalities? In a lot |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. As far as I'm concerned, it's the same damn thing. |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
32. Not sure about a death penalty, but manslaughter |
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sarge43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
5. The death penalty: Effective and fool proof. |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
7. I do not support the death penalty at all. n/t |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
8. I don't support the death penalty. However... |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. Bear in mind, folks, it's more complex than it appears |
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JitterbugPerfume (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
11. I do not support the death penalty in any case or circumstance |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
13. Nope. |
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Engineer4Obama (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
17. No one should get the death penalty. n/t |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
18. I don't think anyone should be getting the death penalty |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. I don't know.... |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:33 PM Response to Reply #31 |
50. So you like the idea of killing someone who poses no imminent threat? |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Poisoning people and animals for profit is a direct threat. n/t |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. But it's not imminent. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:48 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. They only get executed after the fact.... |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 04:54 AM Response to Reply #63 |
72. "the bastards deserve to die"... |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 10:16 PM Response to Reply #72 |
97. You know, this is in itself an emotional position aoW |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #72 |
98. Check your own emotions.... |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
19. Of course not. No one should get the death penalty. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
20. opposed to the death penalty. (nt) |
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Fla_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
21. yer kidding, right? |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
51. That's because some of us think it's fundamentally wrong to kill someone... |
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Fla_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:44 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. therefore |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:46 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. ah I get your point. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
23. how does death justify another death? it's just more death. |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
24. Prison time--yes. Death penalty should be abolished. |
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jesus_of_suburbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
25. If a drunk driver gets the death penalty, then so should anyone who kills someone in a criminal |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Sounds ok to me if the death of another person is involved. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
26. No. I would suggest life in prison. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
27. No - but the people he or she killed didn't deserve to be murdered either |
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Jeep789 (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
28. Is the unfortunate drunk driver that kills someone any more guilty |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. If a person gets home without causing an accident |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:36 PM Response to Reply #36 |
54. No crime has been committed? BULLSHIT. |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:03 AM Response to Reply #54 |
67. Hehe,,, the bizarro world where nothing is illegal if you don't get caught. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
29. What if its your fifth offense, you're driving with a revoked license and you killed someone |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
30. Moral indignation should not play such a large part in sentencing |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Any source for the statement that "most of the drunk drivers |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Yep, wild assed guess. But then I checked . . . |
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Native (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
33. They're charging a teen her in FL with murder (instead of manslaughter) because the driver who died |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
35. why did Fonzi wear his leather jacket when he went water skiing? |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
38. No, but they should receive the same sentences that other |
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BlueCaliDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
39. I am vehemently opposed to government sanctioned death penalties. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
42. I don't support murder by the state, no. |
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burning rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
44. No. Getting behind the wheel drunk shows indifference, not malice. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I think at some level, malice is involved |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:43 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. That doesn't show malice. It shows gross indifference. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 04:15 AM Response to Reply #60 |
68. Dictionary definition does not always equal the legal definition |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 04:53 AM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Sorry, even your own definition defies your logic. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 05:33 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. It's not my definition, it's the state of California's |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 05:39 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. You provided me with a definition that completely defies your evidence... |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 05:49 AM Response to Reply #76 |
80. That's your opinion |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #46 |
94. do you understand that alcohol affects the brain? |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #94 |
99. Apples and oranges |
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prayin4rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
45. Noway, it is reckless disregard not intentional. n/t |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
47. Nobody should get the death penalty |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
48. That would be a massive waste of money |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
49. Hell no. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
53. I don't believe in the death penalty |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
55. sharing a bottle of wine and then having one cognac after dinner would make someone legally drunk |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 04:27 AM Response to Reply #55 |
69. Ignorance is no excuse |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 05:07 AM Response to Reply #69 |
73. several years ago I knew a 19-year-old kid who did run over a kill a 13-year-old child |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 06:05 AM Response to Reply #73 |
83. Part of the reason for this is the culture of driving that Americans have |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 05:10 AM Response to Reply #69 |
74. You do realize that alcohol not only impairs motor skills, but also impairs judgment |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 05:39 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. If this were true, no person could ever be convicted of drunk driving |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 05:45 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. That's kind of where it leads... |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 05:56 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. I'm not a big fan of harsh punishment for 1st offenders either |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 06:00 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. I agree enforcement is an issue... |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 06:22 AM Response to Reply #82 |
84. I can't agree that mental health facilities are the right place for repeat DDers |
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Madrone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
56. No one should get the death penalty. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
59. No, tortured in our new gulags. |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
64. my emotional reaction is fuck 'em - yes |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
65. My mom was killed by a drunk driver. At my worst moments of grief, I wanted revenge. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 10:14 AM Response to Reply #65 |
85. No one should have to endure what you've had to endure |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Thank you for your post, I really appreciate it because it hasn't been easy. |
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Blasphemer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
66. No... I'm against the DP under all circumstances |
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lexanman (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 04:35 AM Response to Original message |
70. The death Penalty is a hard one |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
88. Should someone who kills people while using a cell phone while driving get the death penalty? |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 05:26 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. You poll that I bet more support the DP for driving while texting |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
90. No one should get the death penalty. |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
91. Yes, I have had two family members killed by drunken drivers. |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
92. no FFS, the drunk didn't choose to have a disease that affected his brain |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
93. Against The DP period, so easy answer.n/t |
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Xicano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
95. Killing is killing, period. |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
100. No one should get the death penalty. n/t |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
101. I can't say one way or the other, but I do think that |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
102. Death, no - Life in prison, yes, if the driver has had previous DUI's, etc. |
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