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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 05:41 PM
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Did I hear that Clinton referred to Zelaya's return to Honduras
as reckless? Sorry Hillary he's the elected President of the country.
Reckless is your husband's friend receiving cash from the coup leaders.
Democracy or dictatorship - make up your mind.

Let's hope Fux got this wrong.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/24/clinton-calls-zelaya-reckless-trying-return-honduras/
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 05:41 PM
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1. Didn't hear it.. Maybe we should ask Lanny Davis. n/t
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 06:23 PM
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7. Or maybe we should ask her boss who undoubtedly weighed in on this before it was announced. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 06:26 PM
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9. I'd go to Lanny Davis first. Much short route. n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 05:42 PM
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2. Fux just fucks it up on
purpose.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 05:52 PM
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3. He hasn't returned. He's pushing up against the border, and there's been violence as a result.
He inched over the border for a moment, but he has not "returned."

Teargas and shots fired, I think is what they said. Yes, she did use the word "reckless" because there's huge potential for people to get killed, the way he's playing it. http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/us_world/NATLOusted-Honduran-President-Defiantly-Returns.html

Let's put Clinton's remarks IN CONTEXT:

    . . .he stayed less than 30 minutes before returning to Nicaragua, saying the risk of bloodshed was too great. He said he would give talks with the coup-installed government another try.

    "I am not afraid but I'm not crazy either," Zelaya told the Venezuela-based television network Telesur. "There could be violence and I don't want to be the cause."

    Shortly before Zelaya's crossing, his supporters clashed with soldiers and police nearby after the government ordered everyone off the streets along the 600-mile (1,000-kilometer) border with Nicaragua in a noon-to-dawn curfew. Police said one demonstrator was slightly injured.

    Wearing his trademark white cowboy hat, Zelaya walked up to a sign reading "Welcome to Honduras" and smiled to cheering supporters at the remote mountain pass flanked by banana trees.

    He stopped a few steps into Honduran territory, speaking to nearby military officials on his mobile phone.

    "I've spoken to the colonel and he told me I could not cross the border," Zelaya said. "I told him I could cross."

    But he soon went back to Nicaragua and said he was ready to return to the negotiating table.

    "The best thing is to reach an understanding that respects the will of the people," Zelaya said.

    Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton called Zelaya's trip "reckless." International leaders had urged Zelaya not to go home without an agreement out of fear it would lead to bloodshed. Zelaya had said he had no choice after U.S.-backed talks with his ousters failed to reinstate him.. . . All governments in the Western Hemisphere have condemned the coup, in which soldiers acting on orders from Congress and the Supreme Court arrested Zelaya and flew him into exile. Nations on both sides of the political spectrum say Zelaya's return to power is crucial to the region's stability.

    But Washington and the Organization of American States have asked Zelaya to be patient and not return on his own, fearing it would plunge the country into chaos.


    . . . .


She will be on MTP tomorrow. I'm sure we'll hear more then.

FWIW, I got my info above from NBC Evening News... and then found the matching link.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 06:09 PM
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4. Thank you.

Nice to get a more complete (and less reactive) version.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 06:18 PM
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5. MTP will be a good "watch" tomorrow. NT
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 06:22 PM
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6. Can you please provide evidence of Bill Clinton having received money from the coup leaders?
Or is this just part and parcel of the effusive CDS that still pops up here?

Check it: anything SoS Clinton says about something so important has at minimum alread been run by PRESIDENT OBAMA and approved, or it originated from him to begin with.

Let go of the Bubba hate. Or don't let go of it, but stop blaming him when PRESIDENT OBAMA doesn't do something you approve of via HIS State Department. Thanks.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 06:24 PM
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8. Huh?
Read the OP again.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 12:06 PM
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10. This is what happens when people rely on Fox News spin and don't look for a contextual commentary.
I provided one in this thread. Hillary Clinton is saying the precise, to-the-letter, same thing that every other nation in the hemisphere is saying, which is "Don't go home without an agreement, people could get killed if you do. It's reckless behavior on your part." That's all.

See the link I provided upthread.

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