Lose single payer or at least the public option lose my vote!

[Chisox08]

The Repigblicans has drawn a line in the sand. They say that a public option is a nonstarter for them and the ConservaDems are no help. Since the Repigblicans don't want to get true health care reform passed shut them out of the debate as Max Backus did with single payer advocates in the fiance committee.
Now I'm drawing a line in the sand. If you don't pass health care reform that doesn't incorporate either a single payer system or a strong public option you will not get my vote. Come the Primary Election I will work to get you voted out of office. I encourage all DUers who believe in Health Care reform to call the Senators and their Reps. and let them know if they cave they lose your vote.

[rateyes]

1. Mine, too. nt

[zanne]

2. Good idea, especially if the opponent favors single/public plan. nt

[leftstreet]

3. If Obama were an effective CEO he'd get the Blue Dogs in line

Or do you say 'if Obama was an effective CEO' ?

I can never remember

[RufusTFirefly]

8. It's 'were.' (subjunctive mood) But America is a country, not a corporation

I'm glad that Obama is our president, not our CEO. Corporations aren't democracies.

[leftstreet]

13. If America were a country and not a corporation we'd already have single payer

you'd think

[truedelphi]

15. Very good point leftstreet. n/t

[RufusTFirefly]

21. Sadly, I can't argue with that. I should've said "is SUPPOSED to be," but...

... I prefer not to reinforce the further imposition of the corporate model on American democracy for fear of making it seem acceptable.

By the same token, I utterly reject the notion that I am a consumer. I am a citizen and a person. And despite the 1876 ruling, a corporation can never be a person.



"I am not a number. I am a free man!

[MarjorieG]

9. Some barking is for show back home. We'll see. He's already told them the effect of

'93 failure was their job loss, and they have to stick with the president on this.

We'll see how much Obama can put back in and take out come reconciliation.

[daleanime]

4. Hell yea!

:bounce:

[Uben]

5. They will definitely lose mine

It's put up or shut up time. Either get something passed or get your ass outta the way and we'll elect someone who can get it done. That goes for Blue Dogs and any other politician standing in the way of health reform!

[mdavies013]

6. Same here. I have also contaced the DNC and DSCC to have my name and number pulled...

I will support them if they support healtcare reform. If a rep supports at the minimum a true public option I will do what I have done in the past, conribute my time, my money and my vote.

Don't - Not one dime. Not one minute of my time. Not my vote.

[FormerDittoHead]

7. I want more than that! If the public option is WIDELY available - what good is it?

I read that the CBO estimates that under the current plan only 11 million will be on the plan by 2019?

What the hell is up with that? What possible good could such an 'option' be?

[Chisox08]

10. I want single payer

But a public option is the minimum that I am willing to accept

[FormerDittoHead]

11. Single payer isn't even on the table at this point.

Tell me about it. There isn't even a damn DISCUSSION about single payer going on...

[dflprincess]

12. But it needs to be a real public option

not the faux system being designed in HR3200 that is only intended to help the for profits.

[lumberjack_jeff]

19. Public option is a realistic goal.

And the main reason that the public option isn't expected to attract customers is, ironically, the main thing which makes reform accessible; the large subsidy for low to middle income uninsured.

Jeff the uninsured lumberjack goes to the insurance exchange to get coverage for he and his wife. Since he makes $33,000 They offer him affordability credits which essentially mean the cost of either the public option OR private coverage costs him $500/year. Since the retail price of the public plan would be something like $10,000 and the private more like $12,000 for the same coverage, he's getting a pretty steep discount... but a bigger discount if he chooses the private.

Human nature compels Jeff to buy the "more valuable" option, despite the fact that the coverage is the same.

Saving money by getting broad preference to the public choice will require either changes to the subsidy (e.g. cap the subsidy to 95% of the cost of the cheapest available plan) OR put a fast track on allowing businesses to participate in the exchange.

[Laelth]

14. I wrote mine.

And I said he'd lose my vote if he passed any bill that forced the uninsured (like me) to buy insurance.

I encouraged him to continue to fight for "public option health care" (like that enjoyed by the citizens of the U.K.) as opposed to "public option insurance," which is a bad joke.

:dem:

-Laelth

[BonnieJW]

16. I campainged for Mark Warner and contributed to his

campaign. He does not believe in a public option. I will not vote for him in 12 if he does not vote for it.

[lumberjack_jeff]

17. Agreed. Let's start with the dems on the senate finance committee.

MAX BAUCUS, MT
JOHN D. ROCKEFELLER IV, WV
KENT CONRAD, ND
JEFF BINGAMAN, NM
JOHN F. KERRY, MA
BLANCHE L. LINCOLN, AR
RON WYDEN, OR
CHARLES E. SCHUMER, NY
DEBBIE STABENOW, MI
MARIA CANTWELL, WA
BILL NELSON, FL
ROBERT MENENDEZ, NJ
THOMAS CARPER, DE

[Coyote_Bandit]

18. Health care reform is my line in the sand

Single payer. Not a weak public option. Or mandated private insurance.

Looks like I may never again vote. Oh well. Consequences be damned.

[CrispyQ]

22. I don't know what I'm going to do in 2010 & 2012.

I've been going to the polls for years voting for the lesser of two evils. And when the repubs put up batshit crazy candidates like Bush/Cheney & McCain/Palin, I haven't felt too bad doing that.

And yet, Dick Cheney is still a free man, in spite of confessing to ordering torture. We have escalated hostilities in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Our GLBT friends are still denied full rights. Our taxes are bailing out Wall St. while our jobs are still being shipped overseas. And our democratically controlled Congress is more concerned about their campaign contributors, the for-profit health insurance industry, than they are about the actual health care of their living-breathing, voting constituents.

I realize we're early in the term, but the trajectory's not looking good, right now & I'm not feeling good about my 'lesser of two evils' vote.

[foginthemorn]

20. I have already told both my Senators that as well as my rep.