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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 06:34 PM
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No Public Option???!!! Who will take bets on 'Mandatory Coverage'?
as the brave new health care reform?
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 06:36 PM
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bets? nah.
a good part of the Senate doesn't want a public option. I'm not betting you.
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Old Codger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 06:36 PM
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1. Bipartisanship
At its best, we elected all repugs to both houses
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 06:36 PM
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2. Not. Fucking. Acceptable.
If they can't do at least a REAL public option, then do NOTHING at all, and we'll do it the right way (single payer) once we get some of these filthy goddamn traitors the fuck out of our party. :grr:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 06:36 PM
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3. They're going to recreate Masscare
I can see it coming, with nothing to force insurance companies to stop cheating people out of what they pay for.

The onus will be on us and the gravy will flow to the top.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 06:38 PM
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4. Worst of both systems. Mandatory buy-in, like car insurance, but without any option
I'm really disgusted, even if we do get some sort of radically downsized public option. I never realized just how venal some Democratic politicians really are.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 06:39 PM
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5. I'm so pissed off I'm going to explode
and i'm starting to suspect this whole 'health care reform' thing was a sneaky way for the insurance industry to achieve their wet dream of mandatory coverage. i hope i'm way off base
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 06:41 PM
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7. Nope
as someone just quoted in another thread:

"It's a big club...and you ain't in it!"
George Carlin
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 07:02 PM
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13. I suspect you are right.
Even "public option insurance" with mandatory coverage promises to be a disaster. I feel completely sold out.

:dem:

-Laelth
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 06:39 PM
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6. No bets
As soon as I heard that in this, all I could see was a handout and a new bubble. The fact that the public option is so ineffectual only certifies it.

We voted for Obama to bring change to the system- he's bent on reviving it as it was, and it will be more vicious and bloodthirsty than before.
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Mugweed Donating Member (939 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 06:47 PM
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8. Can't bet...
saving all my money to pay for mandatory coverage...

ha? ha? ha?
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 06:51 PM
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9. ""I can envision a day when you will have to show proof of insurance at the job interview""
-Hilary Clinton, during the 2008 primaries..

Hilary isn't psychic, anyone who didn't see a Brobdingnagian cash cow for the insurance lobby coming down the pike from the very beginning is terminally naive.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 06:54 PM
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10. yes. yes indeed.
that was very disturbing. she tried to dance around that later i think.

it's like trying to solve world hunger by fining everyone too poor to eat.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 07:05 PM
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14. Like trying to solve homelessness by forcing everyone to buy a house.
It's insane, and it will cost the Democratic Party dearly, I fear.

:dem:

-Laelth
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 06:55 PM
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11. Yep...and for those who can't afford the high premiums...
Edited on Mon Jul-27-09 06:55 PM by bluethruandthru
no problem..just subsidize them with our tax dollars. Let's feed the insurance companies our tax dollars to provide shitty coverage for the poor. This is reform we can do without! We need single payer now. To hell with insurance companies and to hell with our representatives who continue to side with them.
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 06:59 PM
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12. They traded eliminating recision and pre existing conditions
for the mandate.

They have been very open about preventing a public option. They will. They know folks are desperate and have already settled for less.

Everybody repeats the industry meme that single payer is impossible. But a mass movement for a canadian style/medicare for all system is the only way we will get reform.

Anything that comes out of this using the term public in the name will be a scam.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 07:13 PM
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15. If this is all they can do then why don't they just raise the eligibility
level on Medicaid and cover the uncovered? It won't be any worse.
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