Freepers: "Certificate of Live Birth not valid because it doesn't use the word 'N***ro'"

[maxrandb]

If anyone had any question as to whether or not the "birther" bullshit is really about the Presidents race, this should remove all doubt.

137 posts over there in a thread that says the COLB is not valid because they describe the father's race as African, vice N***ro.

I sincerely apologize if this offends anyone, but these rat bastards need to be exposed, and they need to be hung around the neck of the Repuke party that forments and encourages this crap.



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2302882/posts

[JuniperLea]

1. I knew it... I said yesterday that this new measure would mean nothing to the Freepers...

Idiots.

[xultar]

2. YOu can post Negro. Negro isn't a bad word. The freepers on the other hand

Let them go on this one. While they are chewing their cud on this...we can slip healthcare right past their idiot asses.

[maxrandb]

14. When I see stuff like this

I have to wonder why there is even any attempt at "bipartisanship". "Ef" 'em!

We need to ram every GD progressive bill down their "effing" throats.

I seriously believe that the reason there has been some softening of President Obama's poll numbers is due to the fact that he hasn't stomped the guts out of the Repukes (politically, of course, not literally).

Maybe his advisors will wake up and realize that Americans love a fighter. He needs to be like the Colonel is "Scent of a Woman".

"IF I WERE HALF THE MAN I WAS 10 YEARS AGO....I'D TAKE A FLAMETHOWER TO THIS PLACE".

He needs to stop begging for the support of the Blue Dogs and let them know that he will "ENSURE" that they don't have his support in the next election.

[xultar]

21. I cannot wait for the day Obama to open a can o whoop ass on the pubs.

[BR_Parkway]

39. Sadly we can't slip anything healthcare pasted our bought and paid

for elected lobbyists for the health insurance industry no matter how distracted the freepers are

[Merlot]

3. But, it's NOT about race...

And the phrase "long form" birth certificate doesn't have ANY historical context.

Oh, no, not at all.

[BlooInBloo]

4. I hate birth certificates that don't say Nitro.

[JBoy]

9. LOL. That's the first word my mind filled in.

[pipi_k]

52. Nutro dog food....

:7

[Eric68601]

5. I think I'm gonna puke.

For a 1961 document- that term is a dead tipoff it is fake
the race term was “negro”

This also shows whoever dummied this document up was
a) not very smart
b) probably too young to remember when “negro” was a race, not an insult
c) too politically correct to use the term “negro”

So he's NOT an American because his BC doesn't say NEGRO?

:puke:

[mix]

7. ..

[Beaverhausen]

17. are you quoting from FR or do you really believe this?

[Synnical]

33. It's from FR

To: trueamerica
For a 1961 document- that term is a dead tipoff it is fake
the race term was “negro”

This also shows whoever dummied this document up was
a) not very smart
b) probably too young to remember when “negro” was a race, not an insult
c) too politically correct to use the term “negro”



18 posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:07:11 PM by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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[mix]

35. i think it's just an unclear post actually

[Synnical]

50. Seemed pretty clear to me

Newbie just didn't know how to format the post.

And it was obvious if anyone had clicked on the link to FR, as I did. I'm not "above" going to FR and reading. Pu-leeeze.


-Cindy in Fort Lauderdale

[mix]

55. Actually there was at least one edit prior to the one that was clear to you.

That was the one I commented on...then I saw the change...and my doubts began.
:hi:

[uppityperson]

58. gee, what a surprise.

silvrleaf Since Jan 13, 2004
thank you cache, and good catch Synnical

[MineralMan]

20. Uh...you're going to have to qualify your post, I think,

or you'll soon be gone.

[DaveinJapan]

42. Oh, please...

As though it isn't obvious by the last line and the "vomit" icon that he's against the sentiment written there?

Some of you 1000+ guys need to get over yourselves. It's pretty pathetic to read over and over who's sandbox this (apparently) is.

[uppityperson]

59. "Whose" sandbox, not "who's" since "who is sandbox" makes no sense

in that sentence. And no, it isn't obvious what the "vomit" icon is about.

[DaveinJapan]

72. Thanks for the grammar advice

as for the puking icon, I always figured it signaled disapproval of some sort.

Maybe it means something else I'm not aware of.

[Eric68601]

49. Perhaps DU should

Perhaps DU should integrate a quote box option with the BB code so one wouldn't have to unnecessarily explain what they had just written/quoted from a right wing blog. Obviously I was quoting free republic and expressing my disgust in the comment. No need for me to elaborate on that more.

[Synnical]

54. DU has such an option

See that "HTML lookup table" on the upper right of your screen?

Hope that helps.

And well-come to DU!

-Cindy in Fort Lauderdale

[juno jones]

24. Dude, Hawaii was a ploy

Stanley whaasher face and Prince Barack 'Kenya Forever' Obama the First rigged it all up so Hawaii became a state. Just so 'Teh One' could be born and be pres. Srsly.

Now why did Sarah have to have Trig in Alaska???? It's all part of end times and if you have to ask why, you haven't been cleared for the truth.

Dude11111!!!!!!11

[uppityperson]

27. kick to mark and see what happens to you.

"Negro" isn't an insult, that is another "n" word.

[Odin2005]

34. Do you want pepperoni or sausage with you're Tombstone Pizza?

[ima_sinnic]

61. people can now be ts'd for quoting FR?

by the way, it's "your" not "you are" Tombstone Pizza.

[kestrel91316]

37. Correct.

:banghead:

[Obama2012]

67. This post makes me puke

[KamaAina]

6. Usually they at least make a half-hearted effort to pull the blatantly racist crap

as soon as they know we've seen it, anyway. :eyes:

[joeybee12]

8. Of course it's always about race, and of course this means nothing to them....

...the insane are called insane for a reason.

[msanthrope]

10. Next they'll tell us the font is wrong. n/t

[goclark]

11. Someone sent me this link from snopes

It is from a year ago but it makes sense to me.

It has been updated July of 2009

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

[Hekate]

12. Sigh. I wonder if any of them have ever stopped to ponder just how much intermarriage ...

... there is in Hawaii now and how much there has been in the past 225+ years. Doctors and statisticians in Hawaii don't get excited over it.

However an African there in 1961 was an exotic species -- in fact, iirc Obama Sr. was the first African student at the University of Hawaii -- so they might have paused to figure out what to write down besides "Negro", which is what polite people on the Mainland then called African-Americans, but which may have seemed to them to be specific to Americans.

Since "Caucasian" -- which is what "whites" were then usually referred to when one was being technical, and which they actually recorded for his mother's race -- actually refers to a specific region on the planet (the Caucasus), I think "African" (a specific continent) was a very, very logical term for the race of Obama Sr, who was actually from there.

But all of this is too subtle for Birthers intent on disproving our POTUS's legitimacy in every sense of the word.

Hekate

[Gman2]

13. Suck them in. Too far to retract. Then, stomPPPPPPPPPP!

It is how Matthews did Liddy. Dont let on that they are trapping themselves. Then, WHACK.

[maxrandb]

18. I'd love to see Matthews do a serious interview with a Repuke

and then ask; "Do you think that the folks on the Republican side that say Obama is not a citizen because his Birth Certificate doesn't identiry the president's father as "Negro" are correct???"

[politicallore]

15. Suprise... Why?

[Solomon]

16. I'm 54 and my birth certificate says "Negro".

Don't know what it would say if I ordered a more recent certification.

[Schema Thing]

19. lol, wth word is "n***ro"?

I'm going to guess "negro".

Think I'll just sip my N***ra Modelo and watch this thread unwind.

[maxrandb]

22. I find the word Negro offensive

That's why I self-censored the subject.

Also to confuse DUer's who might think the Freakers were talking about Presidnet Obama being from the planet "Nitro".

It makes about as much sense as the rest of the "birther bullshit".

[Zywiec]

46. If you find the "word" negro offensive

How would Spanish people describe the color black that would not get you all upset?

:shrug:

[kiva]

47. Not a term I'd use today,

but not one I'd bleep either. It's historically accurate for this period of time, and much less offensive than the alternative 'colored' or 'n****r' (which I do bleep).

[kskiska]

51. Maybe you should clue in

the United Negro College Fund.

[Startup]

56. The word Negro is a bit like a woman wearing white gloves in the summer.

It is a bit of a head turner but isn't really offensive on its own.

[BadgerKid]

23. They just like to argue for argument's sake.

They are best ignored.

[Fuzz]

25. But his father was African, not from America. Would that not make a difference?

That's like idiots calling people in Nigeria African Americans.

[Bleacher Creature]

26. This is awesome.

I love that this is quickly becoming the face of the GOP. I love that "the most trusted name in news" has embraced this story (and keeping Lou Dobbs on the air despite the flurry of criticism satisfies my definition of embrace for these purposes). And I love that Republican officials are literally running away from this issue out of fear that they will anger their lunatic base.

[Jade Fox]

41. Someone else on DU noted.....

that certain RW talking heads (like Limbaugh) have suddenly shut up on this topic.

My guess is the word has come down from the GOP to give the Birther crap a rest because, as you say, it is becoming the face of the Republican Party.

The GOP encourages this kind of idiocy, then can't control it. They is truly the party of stupid at this point. They are the picture of what happens when you start believing your own bullshit. In this case: The idea that constantly muddy-ing the media waters with concocted "outrage" will pay off. Short run yes, long run people aren't that stupid. Plus, the topics are getting down right silly.

[CJCRANE]

28. A man from Africa described as an "African". Is that too logical for freepers?

:shrug:

[Elwood P Dowd]

29. Take a look at this little jewell.....

To: Colonel Kangaroo
"Obama would then become a political martyr, his policy failures would be forgotten and the mass of the American electorate would be filled with outrage towards a minority that managed to overturn their choice over a disputed issue."

I disagree completely.

Look no further than his plummeting poll numbers (which undoubtedly are more favorable to him than reality).
Furthermore, the unprecedented (modern day) tea parties have been attended, overwhelmingly, by folks who are not your typical "professional" protesters/college kids.
The majority of people in this country can't stand Barry's politics and it was only a "perfect storm'" that got him "elected."

Massive voter fraud (ACORN), untold millions in foreign money "donated" to his campaign, state run media actively cheerleading for him, large numbers of conservatives staying home because...while McCain is an American war hero, his liberal politics were too much for them to simply 'vote the lesser of the two evils,' the perfectly timed tanking of the economy (Soros, et. al) and on and on.

Contrary to what the state run media spews daily, America is a center right country. Even if Barry somehow alludes being tossed from office for being a fraud, he will lose in 2012 in a landslide (a-la Carter).

These people are a riot. Jon Stewart should glean FR posts for funnies.

[Initech]

38. Wow, that sounds like they're complaining about Bush.

[Contrary1]

30. C'mon Sarah the Citizen...weigh in on this one. You know you want to.

It would make my day complete. :evilgrin:

[Kalyke]

31. I guess they're forgetting his father is from Africa!?

God, they're so stupid.

I realize his nationality is actually Kenyon, but he's from the continent of Africa - and, back then, the two probably were conflated.

[npk]

57. You mean the country of Africa

:rofl: Like Sarah reminded us. OMG that deserves another :rofl:

[Odin2005]

32. Damn, I must be psychic or something.

I realized that it was all code talk for race last night and now THIS shows up! :crazy:

[bkkyosemite]

36. The man was from Africa therefore now or then he is African. Dumb Dumb Illiterate Idiots Over There

[Saphire]

45. There are other races in Africa. However....

the question is fathers race, not his nationality. Just a mistake I imagine.

Interestingly, my daughters "certified copy" of her "certificate of birth" listed mine and my husbands race as "black", which we clearly are not. So, who you gonna believe?....a "certified, correct reproduction of the original record as recorded in this office blah blah....." or me :)

I don't know why his certificate says that, but I do agree that the birfers are loons.

[KamaAina]

40. I'm not sure that term was ever in common use here

not that we're racism-free, mind you; all the way back in monarchy days, H.H.M. David Kalakaua and later Lili'uokalani, who had darker skin than the Kamehamehas who preceded them, were dogged by rumors (started by Americans, of course) that they were the illegitimate offspring of a black man named John Poppin, who worked as a coachman for the royal family.

[Berry Cool]

43. This is just another way to argue that the certificate is fake because it doesn't contain

the language that such a certificate might have used in 1961. It's premised on the assumption that any modern document produced from the information on the original 1961 document is actually not real or acceptable proof, but a fake. Which is utterly absurd.

A modern document would also modernize the language from the original certificate if it were no longer considered "politically correct." For example, I would imagine that modern-day versions of the birth certificates of Hawaiians born some time ago whose parents had Asian ancestry don't list the race of those parents as "Mongoloid" or "Oriental"--even if they did at the time of the person's birth--but as "Asian."

Of course, it may well be that when the original very-first-ever birth certificate was produced for our president in 1961, it DID list his father's race as "African," given that his father was actually FROM AFRICA (duh) and, hence, describing him as "African" would have been more accurate than it might be for a black father who was born in and never lived anywhere but the USA. Of course, in the most technical sense, "African" isn't a race, but then you get into a whole sticky wicket of what constitutes a "race" anyway.

[bkkyosemite]

53. I believe they were stating that the father was from Africa therefore an African on the cert. and

to delineate he was not an American black man or now as stated African American. I am 63 and I could definitely see them putting African on the certificate to let it be known the father was from Africa. Yes there are different nationalities in Africa but I don't think that is what they meant back then. I believe it was to state his origin as being from Africa therefore African. And I totally agree with you.

[chrisa]

44. Well, that's the CT mindset.

If you prove them wrong, they'll just change the conspiracy to make it plausible again. They're not rational people.

[marshall]

48. In transcribing the information to the new certificate maybe they updated the terminology

The word negro freaks many people out, even though it is not an offensive word. Perhaps the State of Hawaii enacted some new rule that the word African or African American would take the place of Negro in future documents, and anytime new documents are created from existing documents the terminology is also updated.

[SoCalDem]

62. What does a birth certificate for an Asian child say?

Mother Hawaiian, Dad Japanese or Chinese? anyone know?

Post civil rights, I'm guessing that many states used different wording, and since his dad was not a citizen, perhaps his geographic origin was an easier more P.C. way to fill that box. of course he "could" have been from Rhodesia, South Africa, or many other countries within Africa, and have been as white as the driven snow..would they have put "Africa" then? :shrug:

[marshall]

66. Any idea how the documentation in Kenya records his birth?

I remember reading that following Kenyan practice of recording a birth to a Kenyan citizen living overseas, his Hawaii birth was recorded in his father's home country. But I've never read any details of what is in that filing. At the very least I would suppose it records place of birth and birth date.

[Hannah Bell]

60. just the diversion they'd hoped, on both sides of the fence: get people fighting over

a non-existent issue while they're being impoverished & put into lockdown.

[AsahinaKimi]

63. Freepers will never ever let this go...

They hate the left too much to see beyond their hatred. Can't we just tell them, like they told us..
to just "Get over it" ??

[Ganja Ninja]

64. I wonder if any of them have read the bottom of Obama's Birth Certificate?

"This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceedings" :shrug:

I guess not.

[maxrandb]

65. Some "Wingnut" over on that sight was demanding

that the President submit a DNA sample!!!!!!

These people are "bat-shit-crazy", but don't you find it fascinating that their wild and crazy conspiracy theories need to be debunked by the "liberal" media????

This entire sorry affair is a direct result of the Conservative Noise Machine. Why wouldn't they do something like this. There are never any consequences to their actions. It's just "lather, rinse, repeat".

See

- Whitwater
- Clinton Chronicles
- Vince Foster's death
- the Crooked Penis thing
- Travelgate
- Swiftboat crap
- Secret Muslim

and now...Obama's not a "real" citizen!!

Why would they stop this type of shit, when they pay no price for it??

[marshall]

68. It's getting more ridiculous than the "Sarah Palin gave birth to her own grandchild" train.

At some point it has to die down. It's even crawled its way into White House press briefings.

Hopefully it will be out of the public radar by the end of the year. I for one do NOT want to hear Obama have to refer to it in his State of the Union address.

[dorkulon]

69. It's really becoming birther central over there.

Every other thread seems to be about it.

[Name removed]

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[peekaloo]

71. apparently they can't spell that word either.