Honolulu Advertiser Fueling The Birther Fires

[WeDidIt]

Cross posted from GD : P

Hawaii officials confirm Obama's original birth certificate still exists

By Dan Nakaso
Advertiser Staff Writers

Hawai'i's Health Department confirmed yesterday that it has President Obama's original Aug. 4, 1961, birth certificate in storage, but the announcement is unlikely to satisfy conspiracy theorists who insist Obama was born in Kenya.

"We don't destroy vital records," Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said. "That's our whole job, to maintain and retain vital records."

The Health Department's director reiterated yesterday that she has seen Obama's birth records.

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Link To Today's Honolulu Advertiser Article

But wait, that's not what's fueling Birther fires. At the bottom of the page, they posted a copies of what exists for two twin girls born the day after Obama:



So what's the problem, you might ask?

The certificate numbers. Notice that the numbers are sequential:

Susan Elizabeth Nordyke born August 5, 1961 at 2:12 PM is certificate number 151-61-10637 and Gretchen Carter Nordyke born August 5, 1961 at 2:17 PM is certificate number 151-61-10638.

Now here's are some shots of Obama's certificate as issued by the State of Hawaii in 2007:





The vital information is born August 4, 1961 at 7:24 PM with certificate number 151-1961-010641.

Now, "1961" would have replaced "61" when the data went digital to compensate for the changing of the century, that's self evident. An additional "0" would have been added to the final digits of the certificate to accommodate a larger requirement for sequential numbers in modern times, also self evident.

But why would Barack Obama's las five digits of his certificate number be 10641 while two girls born the day AFTER Obama get 10637 and 10638?

This has the Birthers in a total snit.

Their problem is they're applying knowledge of current technology to a situation in 1961. Think of the numbers and the fact that the vital records would have been recorded in batches by individual employees by hand.

Now, what are the last names?

The girls are Nordykes and then you have Obama.

Clearly, a clerk batched the recording of the vital records by alphabetical order of the last names. Clearly, three more babies came between Gretchen Nordyke and Barack Obama during the time that these vital records were entered (days or even weeks after the actual birth).

So this "new evidence" that the birthers are touting as further proof Obama wasn't born in Hawaii actually turns out to be even more proof he was.

[Indydem]

1. Why doesn't Obama make these idiots looks like the fools they are..

And release (either from the state of Hawaii or from his own records) the copies like are displayed for the twins.

I though thats what the Birthers wanted and claim do not exist.

I don't understand why they keep letting these people run their mouths and smear our President...

My understanding that the state of Hawaii went digital or something like that, and all they issue is the digital copies, but surely there must be an original somewhere that can put these fools to bed.

[BlooInBloo]

2. Another birther.

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[BlooInBloo]

7. Anything of the form "why doesn't Obama just release it?" is pure birther talk.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

12. I keep hoping the Obama is waiting to draw more out more flakes before he trumps them

And yes it could be laid to rest with some increase in disclosure of all of his records under court seal etc. I think its not being done as a strategy to make the idiots look silly.

[marshall]

14. Birther?

The new all-purpose insult.

[proud2BlibKansan]

3. Robert Gibbs said today that even DNA won't convince them

I heard a birther on Thom Hartman today. He wanted to know the name of the hospital, the doctor and the nurse.

They will never give this up. It's time to let it go and move on.

[WeDidIt]

6. I figure it'll be released

IT needs to stew a bit longer. He needs more nationally known Republicans going Birther before then.

He'll fly to Hawaii and it'll be a big major deal and it'll be released.

And the Borthers still won't let it go, because this has nothing to do with his birth certificate and everything to do with a black man being president.

[TheCowsCameHome]

5. Let them have their fun. They look dumber by the day.

They wouldn't be satisfied if they delivered the baby themselves.

[WeDidIt]

8. I like how the more they dig, the more they prove the fact that Obama WAS born in HAwaii

The Nordyke twins attended Puahou High School with Obama.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

11. Yes they did

[izquierdista]

9. Another problem you might see here

Has anyone followed up to find out if these twins are Not dykes at all, or whether they have indeed had a lesbian encounter? If they are, that proves the hospital is lying! :crazy:

[WeDidIt]

10. BAD izquierdista

:spank:

[chollybocker]

13. This clearly proves...

...how cool it must be for the Nordyke twins to have been born in a Hawaiian hospital, just hours after a future POTUS. That would be cool to bring up at cocktail parties.