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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 04:06 AM
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I keep noticing that topics discussed on DU one night end up in the MSM the next night...
Edited on Wed Jul-29-09 04:07 AM by armyowalgreens
Does anyone else notice that?

CNN
NBC
MSNBC
ABC
CBS
The Daily Show
The Colbert Report.


I notice that these channels and shows seem to air topics discussed previously on DU. It happens like clockwork. A story breaks online (DU or other websites) or from some obscure source, DU discusses it and the next day the mainstream media picks it up.

It's very weird. Coincidence or something else?
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 04:09 AM
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1. Shhhh.. keep quiet on this k? Believe me others notice...
Edited on Wed Jul-29-09 04:10 AM by wroberts189


..and that's why we post.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 04:11 AM
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2. Lazy writers - they have figured out there is a huge source of free research here
And they are tapping into it. Most media and shows these days don't have the budgets for doing research. But we, the obsessed, go out and do it for free or for fun. Sure, they can and should check the stuff we all post here, but we give them a major start on the research they should be doing.

Also there is such a wide range of interests and backgrounds here, DU is also a good place for a sort of market testing to see which subjects will catch the attention of the liberal public.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 04:12 AM
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3. more proof the profit motive isn't all, & the rich live from the labor of the not so rich.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 04:12 AM
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4. I picked this up ever since KO and Rachel ..nt
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 04:14 AM
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5. Rec this DU'rs ..you deserve it. nt
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 04:32 AM
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6. Hence the expression
"You read it here first" :)
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 05:09 AM
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7. It's cheaper for news venues to "mine" the net, than to actually investigate
Edited on Wed Jul-29-09 05:10 AM by SoCalDem
stories past the initial article that gets printed.

If they had to have their own employees do the research & digging, they would have to authorize overtime or hire more people..news is exponential, and "new" stuff is always happening. When they run their initial stories, they have no way of knowing for sure which ones will catch fire and need more investigation. By the time they figure that out, the journalist is on to other stories.

The lazy way (and cheapest) is to wait and see which things are of interest to the people who love to dig for MORE, and then to just co-opt their research (along with all the links to where they found the juicy details), and then run with it..
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 05:20 AM
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8. Somebody unrec'd this...
Fucking trolls.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 07:39 AM
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12. I don't see your OP as being one of the Greatest on DU.
I'm not a troll.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 07:52 AM
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14. Me neither.
I don't know why people care so much about this rec/unrec thing. Silly, if you ask me.
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 04:11 PM
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20. I don't see it being on the greatest page either. That doesn't mean it needs to be unrec'd.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 01:12 AM
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29. Too bad you don't get to vote for other people.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:14 AM
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17. I posted something unfavorable about Failin a couple of days ago.



I watched it go in and out of 'Greatest' a couple of times.

I think you have something there about trolls.








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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 06:34 AM
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9. Sometimes it takes them years before we see it. /nt
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 06:43 AM
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10. mostly we're all getting the stories from a common source, we're just faster.
a story comes out on the ap wire and someone posts it to lbn within seven minutes. depending on the timing, it might not make the tv news for 24 hours. even the ones that are news 24/7 have a lag while they double-check their story, finish airing other stories, hem and haw about who and how and when to pitch the story, figure out how they can best use it to subtly inch forward the corporatist agenda, and so on.

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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 01:03 AM
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27. "Double-check the story"?
:rofl:

Surely you jest?

There's more checking goes on here on DU than in the M$M I suspect..

I've long since lost track of the number of stories in the M$M that turned out to be bogus..

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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 05:37 AM
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31. they always double-check in the sense of getting a second source.
as a matter of legal protection. of course, that second source might be related to the first source, e.g., "yeah, i heard the same rumor." there are proper and sloppy ways of getting confirmation, and there are even knowingly wrong ways of doing it and i'm sure foxnews is an expert on that.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 07:37 AM
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11. Wow but DU is so full of itself.
Yes I am sure all the major news outlets scan DU for news and the WH staffers are always checking out DU too.

Cause Bob knows they all want to know who's puppy is sick, what the weather is doing in various DUers' neighborhoods, who's sick, who's wife left them and all other manner of tripe that is posted pretty much daily here. And it is clearly evident that if the TV pundits think they can talk a topic to death and beyond, well DUers can teach them the REAL art of overkill!

How laughable.

Julie
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 04:13 PM
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22. You missed my point entirely...
Do you honestly think I was talking about that stuff? Honestly?


I'm speaking about substantive topics that begin as obscure news stories, we dig them up, and the next day it ends up in MSM.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 04:16 PM
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24. Yes, I'm sure it's thanks to DUers the stories make news.
But no, you weren't talking about "that stuff".

Well, I guess it's only fitting that we lead the way on these stories cause we certainly out-do the media on the over-kill of a story once it hits.

Julie
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 07:51 AM
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13. We're down to a 24 hour turn around?
Dang! I remember when it was 2-3 years before they caught on.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 07:55 AM
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15. I have the corporate nooze media on ignore, so I haven't noticed. nt
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 04:13 PM
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23. Me too. Can't take 30 seconds of it.
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 01:28 AM
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30. Yup. The only thing worse than national corporate snooze is your local news crap.
Unbelievable junk. Does not even approach journalism.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:06 AM
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16. Be happy, the lag used to be DU, a month later NPR, 6 months later Corporate Media
maybe.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:16 AM
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18. We're slipping...
We used to be days and weeks ahead. Or maybe they are gaining on us? :-)
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:25 AM
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19. Thinking the same thing
I recall a post here about the Country Club in PA.
It talked about it needing to be a "Teachable Moment."

About two days later, "Teachable Moment" popped up on TV.

Then the President and others said, "Teachable Moment" for Gates vs."Innocent Police" Officer. :shrug:

Probably a coincidence.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 04:11 PM
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21. Iran was the biggest recent one, yah.
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gimama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 04:43 PM
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25. there are no coincidences; )
I always go to DU FIRST, for REAL news.
Do NOT doubt, DUers make a positive difference!
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 12:58 AM
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26. It's been that way for years.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 01:09 AM
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28. Most of the blogs listed on the front page are cowardly in that they
won't link to DU. But I suspect they still read it, as well as certain newscasters/commentators. Rachel Maddow in particular frequently uses stories and neologisms that originate here.
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