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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:16 AM Original message |
Face it DU. If Michael Vick wasn't rich or famous no one would be all up in arms |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
1. excellent post |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. And you knkow what, If a team doesn't hire him...those are the breaks. Too bad for him. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. well people have every right to ostracize him |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #11 |
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swishyfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
86. Self Delete |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:53 AM Original message |
He's been reinstated |
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jehovas_waitress (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
188. He did his time. And his long term public punishment is just beginning. |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
22. I would hope that the current members of any team who would |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. NFL players beat their wives. They are still playin...seriously you may work |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #28 |
119. Everyone I work with has had criminal background checks run. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #22 |
45. why? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
143. Barkley's comment about not being a role model was funny, but not accurate. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
243. I don't care if Michael Vick is a pauper. He is a sick bitch and what he did with |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
2. Quick! Somebody post the picture of that torn-up dog! That ALWAYS wins the argument! |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Quick! Somebody make a joke about tortured dogs! That ALWAYS wins the argument! |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
37. +1 |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #37 |
93. +2 |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #93 |
222. +3 n/t |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Yeah post a picture, but I've seen it up close. I've got street cred on the issue. |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #8 |
26. Can't pull rank on me, sister. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. First, I wsn't talking about YOU specifically, Second, can he make 60,000. IS that o.k. with you? |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #33 |
98. Because we all KNOW about HIM. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #26 |
48. If no one cares whether or not he's rich and/or famous... |
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Alenne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #26 |
68. On the board |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
164. I Just Don't Understand This Attitude of Continued Punishment |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
130. Your street cred hasn't taught you empathy, though. |
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ShadesOfGrey (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #130 |
211. Thank You!!! Color me skeptical too. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #211 |
212. Yep. The fact remains--anyone can make any claim on the internets. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
79. The long-term, institutionalized torture of animals is often a sign of serious emotional/mental |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. Sure - it sometimes is. And sometimes a hick is just a hick. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #84 |
97. . |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #84 |
107. Umm.. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #107 |
113. In some of the backwater parts of the country, dog fighting is relatively common... |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #113 |
123. Vick doesn't strike me as a "hick"...If he ever WAS one, he had great opportunities |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #123 |
132. (shrug) That says more about how little you know than anything out in reality. |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #132 |
191. (shrug)...Is that the best you can do?......lame. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #123 |
152. He came up in less-than-ideal conditions |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #152 |
192. Many people came up in worse....and didn't turn out to be sadistic animal killers. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #192 |
196. No one is suggesting that he should be "excused" because of his |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #196 |
228. Please do your preaching in church.. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 08:13 PM Response to Reply #228 |
229. This is my church. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 08:33 PM Response to Reply #229 |
230. Defending Animal Torture is not progressive, MADem |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #230 |
234. You cannot read. I am not doing that. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 08:47 PM Response to Reply #234 |
235. You most certainly are accusing DUers of being nonprogressive |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 08:56 PM Response to Reply #235 |
237. I am saying that anyone who refuses to give someone who has |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #237 |
238. It is you who is not reading. The issue is not whether to forgive... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #238 |
239. Many are not. Many say "No sale" and that they'll never forgive him. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 09:26 PM Response to Reply #239 |
240. I don't condone that either.... |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #238 |
245. Don't bother,hlthe2b...MAdem is digging in her heels...Anyone who |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 05:38 AM Response to Reply #229 |
244. Deleted sub-thread |
Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #84 |
126. Hicks who fight dogs are called "psychopaths". |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #126 |
155. Not everyone with a tough beginning brutalizes dogs...some people |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #155 |
158. Indeed. nt |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #126 |
194. Yes...and those who then torture them to death are even MORE deserving |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
3. Vick is a no good bastard |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Yet, you don't say shit about the rapist and murders they let out. OK |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 03:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
187. Or those charming folks at PETA |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #3 |
50. Then change the law. |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #50 |
58. women do it too |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #50 |
62. I'm working on it, believe me |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
5. I would. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Then we need to talk. I'm enterested in starting my own rescue and not |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
90. Would I ever do what? |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
223. Will you be rescuing animal torturers? n/t |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #5 |
56. as you know flvegan |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #56 |
103. Keep up the good work. |
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Wickerman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
6. Jesus but you hit the nail on the head |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
10. huh? |
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Pool Hall Ace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
13. I believe he should be allowed to play |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
14. I don't want him placed in a position that society lionizes. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
15. Other people's jobs aren't fan-supported, and don't get them rich or televised as a hero. n/t |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #15 |
41. Well if the fans turn away then all the better right? But you're pulling the plug before the fans |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #41 |
114. Employers get to "vote", too. If people don't want this sorry excuse |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
220. Vick pulled the plug by being convicted. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
16. I live in Ga. & am a Falcons fan. I don't care if he signs |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:29 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. You're a Falcon's fan. Shit, you need to have your head examined. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
18. Hey! The Minnesnowta Visqueens need a new QB. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:31 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Yeah sending a southerner up there would amount to torture. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #18 |
82. Can you be more sexist in your insults? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #82 |
121. Sexist? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #121 |
137. You know that's not how it's meant to be read. nt |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #137 |
150. Since I authored the reply, I can tell you how I meant it to be |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
19. Yes - he should be made to take a regular job - no multi-million $ |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. What if he becaame a truck driver...then bought the company and made a million |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. No - I have a problem with an alleged animal-care worker |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #27 |
40. Right, we all think a like. I didn't get the memo. If it helps you please put me on ignore. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
29. Xultar, you are SO right. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. re: |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. no public evidence of contrition...what would that look like. He apologized... |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #44 |
51. As a self-described "animal welfare worker," I'd think you' d |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #51 |
69. Deleted sub-thread |
MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #51 |
96. What do you want him to do or say, then? Please be specific. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. Actions (not court-ordered), not simply empty words |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #100 |
108. The man is bankrupt and he's just come out of jail. He'll need money |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. Perhaps if you read my previous responses to you, MADem |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #96 |
102. There's nothing he can do. Nothing will satisfy them but his blood and pain. They're American. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. Yawn. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #44 |
81. No, he said he "made a mistake." Some 'mistake'! Years of torturing animals. nt |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #39 |
88. He did apologize. He did it more than once, too. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. I'm struck by a certain irony... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #91 |
125. My defense of the sport has everything to do with being an American. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #125 |
165. I obviously struck a major nerve with you |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #165 |
183. You didn't strike a nerve, you simply made an entirely false assumption. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #183 |
184. You are right on that-- time will tell. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #29 |
42. +10 |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #29 |
63. +20,000. Great post. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
115. Very well said. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
178. I like your idea and would only add. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #178 |
189. A lot of ex-cons are ideal for that sort of work. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #189 |
190. That would be ideal wouldn't it. |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
30. I agree |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
31. I think it's the tendency to put celebrities into "role model" status... |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Nail on the head. |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
34. as a vet tech since 1999, a current vet student, and one who studies |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #34 |
46. The dog fighting was bad enough, but the torture was pure evil. I don't care |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #46 |
109. You got that right. |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #46 |
193. word |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
35. Right On! |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
36. Aren't you getting bored with the threads telling us how we should |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Just put me on ignore. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #38 |
49. Let's just play your game. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:03 PM Response to Reply #49 |
65. Lindy Englund, the one torturing Iraqi troops some of whom died. 18 MONTHS. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #65 |
94. Lindy Englund was sentenced to 3 years |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #94 |
162. She served served 521 days... LOOK IT UP |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #162 |
172. I hope typing the all caps help you feel good - that has to be the only |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #172 |
176. OK you convinced me, I'm wrong. He should never work in the NFL or make over 30k. HE hasn't paid |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #176 |
180. I didn't say that - you need to stop distorting the words of others. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #180 |
181. Hey. I like you. I'm gonna PM you my number. Let's chat about this |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #181 |
182. thank you |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #49 |
133. Exactly. If he weren't rich and famous, he wouldn't have Xultar defending him. nt |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #133 |
159. I'm not defending him. I'm saying he paid his debt. Let the man be |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #159 |
163. And you wouldn't be doing that, if he weren't rich and famous. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #163 |
168. I have ex-cons in my family. I dated an ex con. Hate what they did...I still love them and want them |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #49 |
218. If it wasnt Vick, the Feds would not have even touched this case. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #218 |
224. really? |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 07:45 PM Response to Reply #224 |
226. In the State of Virginia, in the last two year, since Vicks conviction |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #226 |
227. That could simply be because the state choose to finally start enforcing the law |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #227 |
231. Not really, the Virginia state authorities have arrested and |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #231 |
232. Just what I said happened, the state authorities were ignoring it because |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
43. Frankly, I'm sick and tired of the notion that ex-cons shouldn't have any rights. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. That is what I'm really trying to say. You say it so beautifully. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #43 |
52. If you think its bad for Michael Vick, just imagine the no names. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. How do you figure? |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. I understand that - but Vick is a public figure that has more options |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:05 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. I hope you're right, but this doesn't look like a "discussion" |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #67 |
74. Had Vick tortured and killed children, would you think he so readily deserved |
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swishyfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #74 |
110. What if he killed deer with bow and arrow for sport/fun? |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #110 |
124. Oh, so you don't know any black hunters? |
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swishyfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #124 |
141. Well, no. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #141 |
151. Yes, I did answer your question. |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #110 |
225. How many deer get put in a ring to tear each other apart |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #74 |
167. Maybe he should have just shot at wolves from helicopters. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #167 |
174. Oh, I agree. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #67 |
117. Apparently, for some crimes, forgiveness no longer applies. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #117 |
122. And apparently, torturing people is no longer a problem so long as they're bad. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:13 PM Response to Reply #122 |
127. There are no bad people, only bad actions. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #127 |
135. I don't agree that there are no bad people, but I otherwise agree with you. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #135 |
140. Hmmm... |
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tjwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #43 |
54. Or the fact that we have more people in our prisons than the combined countries of China and India. |
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tjwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
53. Waste of time; the DU lynch mob has already tied his ass up and tossed the rope over the tree branch |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. You really went there? |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
57. Personally I wish one of those dogs he was TORTURING would have ripped his |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. I'd rather the nuts. But that's just me. That would have been sweet justice. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
64. Meanwhile, as you scold us for being up in arms over Vick... |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. I've already inquired about adopting that little girl in AZ. I don't need to post |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. That's nice of you, |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #77 |
157. I pick an issue a day. There are somethings I don't discuss because of personal |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #157 |
195. I don't use ignore, and have no reason to start now. |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
66. I figure that his crime had nothing to do with the game |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
70. Yes, my money is where my mouth is. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:13 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. I guess the obvious borderline sociopath is lost on some here in their defense of Vick. |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #73 |
198. Yes, it would seem so....Who would have thought DU had such empathy for animal torturers? |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #70 |
149. I applaud you cuz Beagles are tough. We have one lady who takes all the |
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Leftist Agitator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
72. "So, what more do you want from the man?" |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. naw |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. +1 |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #75 |
83. I'm starting to think, from your rhetoric, that you and Vick may share more in common than you think |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. you see similarities |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #89 |
120. I'm the sick fuck, but you're talking about torturing a human being. |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #75 |
92. My solution: if he DOES get back into the NFL .. |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #92 |
101. hmmm |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #92 |
104. Works for me! |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #92 |
219. So much for Amendment VIII to the United States Constitution. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
76. Are you not aware the public forum that being famous gives people? His half-assed 'apology'? |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
80. Some PETA idiot was on MSNBC the other day calling for brain scans for Vick. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. For what he did to those dogs, I think some sort of psychiatric analysis is in order. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #85 |
128. They're not mutually exclusive. He's sick and evil. nt |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
87. If he wasn't rich or famous, he'd still be doing time... |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #87 |
156. +1 |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #87 |
221. Possibly, but most probably in a State instituion |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
95. your telling us what to do and think is getting really old |
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Stevenmarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
99. Sorry but fame cuts both ways and the privilege a person enjoys at the top is matched |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #99 |
111. +1 nt |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
105. Spot on. |
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Butch350 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
116. It's easier to draw attention to the problem using big names. |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
118. It IS a good post.... |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #118 |
179. If Vick killed one of my dogs, I'd kill him. But when I got out of jail wouldn't |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #179 |
199. It's just a thought but, if you killed a PERSON you actually might not have to worry about that. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 04:38 PM Response to Reply #199 |
202. True. But when I got out, I should be allowed to get a job doing what I do now |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #202 |
207. You say "when I got out"...Who says you WOULD get out?..It seems |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 05:42 PM Response to Reply #207 |
216. Maybe Xultar is a pro football player! nt |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 05:22 PM Response to Reply #179 |
214. ... |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #179 |
247. Actually, if you killed a human being, in any other circumstance |
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sledgehammer (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
129. Agreed. I think many people want to see a Vick crying session on Oprah. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #129 |
134. He did say this... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #134 |
138. He apologized in court, on the day he entered his plea. Oh, yeah. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #138 |
145. He might have been sincere, he might not have been... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #145 |
146. It's only for victims to forgive. And since he tortured and killed his victims, |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #146 |
147. "It's only for victims to forgive?" |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #147 |
148. Whenever Jesus is discussing forgiveness, he's talking to the victims |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #148 |
154. Hm... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #154 |
161. "Bless those who curse YOU, go good to those who hate YOU." |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #161 |
166. So sinners whose victims can't forgive don't deserve forgiveness... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #166 |
169. The faith has always taught that repentance is part of the |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #169 |
171. What does wanting him not to get his job back do for the dogs? (nt) |
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sledgehammer (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #134 |
142. True. But that seems like the way pols apologize after having an affair. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #142 |
144. I don't know... I didn't see any excuses in there... |
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sledgehammer (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #144 |
175. True, he had no excuses. |
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Butch350 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
131. I've got nothing against him working again.... |
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Butch350 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
136. Apparently you have a thing for Vin and Vick |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #136 |
177. If Vick killed one of my dogs, I'd kill him. But when I got out of jail, I should be able to get my |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
139. Fine let him play |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
153. I volunteer, I rescue cats, I donate my time...and yes, I think Vick is |
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chaska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
160. Pretty hard to read, Xult. Thank you for what you do. But, I hate nothing more than animal abuse. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #160 |
170. I can't believe people think I think what Vick did is OK because I want him to get his |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #170 |
173. I'm not surprised judging from a few threads on this already |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #170 |
185. People on DU, many of them, have real problems with reading. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #185 |
205. That's sad. Expected but sad. I would love it if everyone could be given a |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #185 |
213. Let us know when he does ANYthing even remotely like this |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #213 |
215. Indeed. He's run his life so badly thus far, that I don't expect a major |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #213 |
217. I am not "praising" him. See--you're not reading. |
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ShamelessHussy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
186. true dat & and I expect him to be out on the field again, soon |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
197. Those posts sink to the bottom, you see... like a drop of water in an oil sludge. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #197 |
200. I think it is funny that we @ DU diss the MSM for being single minded on fluff |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #200 |
204. Sorry, but some of us don't think torturing animals is "fluff" |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #204 |
206. Ahh seriously you knew what the fuck I meant. I'm not going to even play your game. |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 05:01 PM Response to Reply #206 |
210. You certainly make a lot of assumptions...No. Sorry..A lot of us take cruelty to animals |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
201. I'd be fine with allowing him to play after a 20 year suspension |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #203 |
209. And "some people" on DU are... |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
208. Well said, I agree, but I still hate Vick |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
233. Respectfully disagree. |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
236. But he IS famous. So all the rest is not applicable. Fame has its drawbacks. |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
241. He lost his name and he should have to work to rebuild it. |
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DeadEyeDyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
242. In a way I agree with you |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
246. If Michael Vick wasn't rich or famous he wouldn't be getting his job back. |
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