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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:06 AM
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Schwartzenegger approval ratings at 28% - where's the recall ??
Gray Davis was at 26% when the Governator and the Repubs went after him and had him recalled in the middle of his term. But it is hard to argue that times in California are better now than when Gray Davis was the Governor. However, when Gray Davis was recalled, the national Republican Party was totally involved in the fight to throw him out of office. The Democrats do not play that type of politics. Otherwise, Arnold would be long gone. Welcome to the real world, California.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:08 AM
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1. And the assholes thought Gray Davis was bad?
Sheesh...:eyes:

I actually had one R-idiot say to me that he was voting to get Ah-nold in cuz Ah-nold understood money and would make the state wealthy just like he had done for himself.

Worked real well.....NOT!
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:08 AM
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2. Repukes are out to win at all costs...Dems, at all costs...
are out to lose.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:08 AM
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3. It wouldn't be worth the time and money to run a recall now
He's term-limited out in 2010. Much better IMO to focus on finding a good person to run. I haven't seen one yet.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:12 AM
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6. Attorney General Edmund G. Brown is running
he ran the State of Calif. before and did a good job and yes, he can do it again. He has my vote!

:kick:

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:13 AM
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18. Heard a rumor that Jerry Brown will run.
I hope so.
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conspirator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:10 AM
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4. Fascists don't need majority to rule nt
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Misskittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:12 AM
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5. Isn't kharma great!
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:15 AM
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7. Arnold's doing a fine job covering up the rape of California.
That's what he was hired for, why would Big Money fire him now?
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:35 AM
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10. bingo. nt
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:17 AM
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8. Remember the "Open the books" battle cry?
What a load of crap. It was never about the books.

This was all a setup. The rolling black outs, the Enron/energy market manipulation, the horrible deal Davis HAD to sign to keep the lights on, the recall over the resulting deficits, the lack of any real reform, and now the destruction of all social programs in Cali-forn-ya. Mission accomplished.
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:25 AM
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9. Arnold was the Enron candidate
Gray Davis got a bum rush and so did the people of California.

I like Jerry Brown; one of my favorite pols ever.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:38 AM
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11. I like Jerry Brown; one of my favorite pols ever.
I agree needless to say.

His father, Edmund G. Brown, Sr. did a lot of excellent work for the State of Calif. as well.

A great family that have worked their entire lives for this state.

:thumbsup:

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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:49 AM
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13. Ditto. n/t
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:42 AM
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12. Only Democrats can be impeached or recalled
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:10 PM
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27. or assassinated, as history shows
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BolivarianHero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:52 AM
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14. I feel marginally sympathetic toward Arnold...
He's an ass and an ignoramus, but the real problem is the State Assembly and State Senate GOP
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:19 AM
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19. Agreed. Most of the people complaining don't understand CA government
Meantime, nobody is going to recall Schwarzenegger because his term is over in 18 months anyway, none of the democratic contenders has a clear advantage, and we are sick to the back teeth of elections.

As for CA's economic situation, in case you hadn't noticed the whole country is in a severe recession. It's not as if California is tanking and everyone else is doing fine. Unfortunately our state's revenue is extremely volatile and tends to rise and fall with antional GDP. It happens that Schwarzenegger has been working for tax reform, and a new tax proposal is likely to go before the legislature this September or so...which will actually increase tax revenues from business IF the legislature votes for it.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:07 AM
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15. Sign me up for the recall
How many more days,months, hours do we have to bear this nut?
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:11 AM
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16. Recalls are expensive.
CA has no money.

I'm not a fan of Ahnold but there's more than enough blame to go around for this mess - starting way back in 1976 with the passage of Prop 13 which cut property taxes and mandated a 2/3 majority to pass any budget.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:11 AM
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17. The Democrats in California do not have the deep pockets that
Darryl Issa had, courtesy of some Washington conservative think tanks, to finance a recall of Arnold. Some Californians have tried to get volunteers out with petitions but unfortunately our state is too big and too diverse to support that type of grass roots efforts. In other words the initiative system is a failure except for Republicans who want to influence the results of our elections. We are stuck with letting him finish his term. :-(
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Pubslayer Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 02:13 PM
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20. He isn't that bad
I don't often agree with Arnold and I certainly didn't vote for him but the one thing I give him credit for is he is trying to do what he thinks is right for CA, whereas most of our other politicians are trying to make a buck. Learn your history before you rip on him. CA is screwed because of three old issues:

1. Prop 13 - if you bought your house before 1978 your taxes will never go up; you can also inherit into Prop 13, and turn that house into a rental. This puts the tax burden way too heavy on the working class (income), as we now get too little from property taxes. When the working class is unemployed - as in a recession - the state's revenue plummets. If we were weighted on property instead the state would do BETTER (in some areas) in a recession due to property churn and tax reassessment.

2. Pete Wilson privatized our energy; Gray Davis overpaid our energy bill by $40 BILLION to pacify Enron. Both those guy were terribly incompetent, and made decisions designed to further their careers at California's expense. CA still has obligations to buy $10B worth of energy over the next decade at inflated ENRON prices.

3. Our pay structure for police and firefighters is way too high. A rookie street cop with only a high school education can make 6 digits with OT in his first year. Compare that with other public servants, like teachers. Add in pensions and you get into a GM type situation. Teachers vs cops: can you guess which union has guns?

Our state legislature is a nightmare and I can't imagine anyone walking into Sacramento and turning things around. Ever. But the fact that a Republican fornicating bad actor with a pig's heart and silly accent is doing better than the last two career politicians should make you wonder what the hell is wrong with the system.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 02:24 PM
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22. Oh don't make me laugh.
Arnold is a hard right politician in his actions. He pretends to be liberal so feather brains vote for him. I do agree with you about your points as to how CA got to where it is. However, fyi Arnold has vetoed health care legislation that our legislature has passed twice that would have gone a long way in solving many of our budget problems by taking the for profit health care premiums and putting them into a single payer health care plan as outlined by Senator Sheila Kuehl, which would have made many of his budget cuts unnecessary. He couldn't defy his corporate masters, who put him into place, to do that. Also, he's too stupid to control his own party. He has no leadership and is a big failure IMHO.

Anyway, welcome to DU, I think.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 05:36 PM
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24. C'mon.....no deep-pocketed Progressives in California?
Sorry, but that's funny.

Streisand? DiCaprio? Speilberg? It's a very, very long list and the money could easily put together.

It's the will that's lacking. And frankly, a recall isn't going to solve CA's problems.

Whether it's Brown or Newsom or whomever runs on the GOP ticket next time around, CA will still face HUGE budget shortfalls.

It's time to ditch Prop. 13 -- and that is never going to happen.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 02:17 PM
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21. At this point in time, California has very few popular politicians.
Ahnuld got in because he presented a positive alternative to Davis. Nobody is presenting a positive alternative to Ahnuld.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 05:18 PM
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23. We need a true Governor like --- um --- Gray Davis! --- ahem.
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Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 06:22 PM
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25. The legislature weighs in at 17%
And sadly, most of them will be reelected.

Redistricting is a crucially needed reform.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 08:14 PM
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26. It was a ruse to keep Pelosi from impeaching.
In case she would end up having to resign, Ahhnold would get another Dem, so it would never happen that we could get rid of her.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 12:35 AM
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28. Enron paid for the Davis recall
along with Darrell Issa, the POS repuke. Where's our rich daddy?
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