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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:32 AM
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Orly Taitz facing disbarment proceeding
Edited on Thu Jul-30-09 11:46 AM by Gothmog
Here is a link to a 29 page disbarment petition on Orly Taitz http://www.scribd.com/doc/15546236/Taitz-State-Bar-Complaint I like it because it mentions the fact that Taitz has stalked and confronted both Scalia and CJ Roberts at various lectures and even gave CJ Roberts a motion for rehearing and a copy of the Wing Nut Daily petition on President Obama. I have skimmed the petition and it seems to be well written

Here is another article that I found on this issue http://mensnewsdaily.com/2009/07/29/us-secret-service-looks-at-alleged-coup-plotters-birthers-queen-bee%E2%80%9D-could-lose-law-license/
Dentist/lawyer Orly Taitz, dubbed the Birther “Queen Bee”, is facing a disbarment complaint filed anonymously in California–the only state in which she is admitted to the Bar. The first paragraph of the complaint reads as follows:
“A California attorney has decided that President Obama is ineligible to be President, and has taken on the mission of removing him from office – by force if necessary. On at least two occasions, she has openly called for armed rebellion by the military, to arrest and imprison the elected President.”
When this writer challenged Taitz on this during a June 21 radio debate, she said “Any crazy person can write anything and file it.” And she should know.


This is the first that I have heard of the petition to disbar Taitz. I am glad that someone is making the effort here.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:34 AM
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1. The woman is a raving nutcase
and if she's acted contrary to being an officer of the court (and trying to incite violent overthrow of the government would do it), then she needs to be disbarred.

Just don't expect that crazy a media hound to go away quietly.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:36 AM
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4. I'm sorry, must you be so fricking insultive!!!!......
how do you think raving nutcases feel being compared to Orly Taitz

:rofl:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:41 AM
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9. Insultive?
I thought the word was "insultatory"
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:59 AM
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13. Indeed. Speaking for myself and like-minded nuts, it's insulting.
:silly:
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:40 AM
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7. Why do you hate raving nutcases? n/t
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 11:52 AM
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37. Wonder what her bank account looks like? Does she take "donations?"
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:52 AM
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44. Dry roasted, salted in the shell nutty...nt
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:34 AM
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2. After seeing her on the Colbert Report, she needs to be locked up because she's insane.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:34 AM
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3. This is good news. nt
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:37 AM
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5. Definitely unwell. What a twit, stalking SCALIA!! That's actually pretty funny...
He is one mean "Fat Tone" who doesn't like people invading his space!
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:38 AM
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6. That will only be taken as futher evidence of the conspiracy by the Birthers
Edited on Thu Jul-30-09 11:38 AM by WeDidIt
She'll become a martyr and this will prove that Obama's "thugs" are putting a stop to anybody quesitoning his birthplace.

At least, if the history of conspiracy theorists continue to play out with these nutburgers.
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Renaissance Man Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 05:21 PM
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29. We know the birthers are that stupid..
... but what Orly Taitz has done has violated so many of the ABA Rules of Professional Conduct (which all attorneys are expected to comply with) that I saw her facing disbarment a mile away.

What makes this story sweet is that the California Bar Exam is one of the most difficult bar exams to pass, and I hope that her sideshow circus was worth her being disbarred.
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theothersnippywshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:40 AM
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8.  Birther motto: “Any crazy person can write anything and file it.” n/t
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:42 AM
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10. Thanks, Anonymous!
You're doing a great service for your country! :patriot:
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:53 AM
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11. Oh NOES1!!! theyre unbarrin her cause she spekes the TRUF!!!!
:rofl:

;-)
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:54 AM
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12. It's da Obamabots doing Bambi's biddin' I tells ya!!!
:crazy:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 12:01 PM
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14. Called it! Hasn't been two weeks since I said that would happen.
She has no idea how to behave as an attorney in federal court. She'll be lucky if all they do is disbar her.
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 12:24 PM
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15. She'll always have dentistry and real estate to fall back on
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 01:25 PM
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16. Taitz can not get licensed in other states
Taitz graduated from a law school that is not accredited by the ABA and she can only be licensed in Calif. This is from the webpage of the law school that allowed Taitz to graduate http://www.taftu.edu/TLS/gi27.htm
Q. I’m a current law student. Will the accreditation allow me to take the bar examination in states other than California?
A. Unfortunately, no. Outside of California, qualification to sit for the Bar Examinations is generally based on graduation from an institution approved by the American Bar Association. The ABA has chosen not to review its ban on approving distance education courses which goes back to the 1950’s. In our opinion, ABA approved schools realize if they allow distance education to expand nationally they will not be able to continue to justify the tuition rates for Juris Doctor programs which average in excess of $80,000 nor the faculty salaries which often exceed $100,000 per year. In addition, most state bar associations are controlled by attorneys who desire to limit the number of attorneys in their state. Attorney admittance to bars outside of California is more of a political issue relating to limiting competition rather than any concern for consumer protection. Don’t expect any change in these rules in the foreseeable future.
I really doubt that she was admitted pro hac vice in all of the jurisdictions where she has filed lawsuits.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 01:31 PM
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17. I wondered about where she got her ed and license. I bet her dental degree is suspect too.
Still, just because the motion is filed doesn't mean it will go anywhere--but I bet the CBA would love to get her out and she likely won't have friends there.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 03:37 PM
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22. Why do you think she got a JD from an online law school?
She was trying to save money on the malpractice lawsuits she faced.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 03:57 PM
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24. Y'know, tuition at Taft is 8K a year; cause when one doesn't study
case law there's no need to bother with those pesky things like Lexis/Nexis and WestLaw and geez, Crest has a nifty tooth care site too, chock full of info!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 01:52 PM
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19. Hey, now, Taft is accredited--by the same people who accredited
her dental alma mater.

Oh, I would so, so love to volunteer my paralegal services to this! :rofl:
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 06:53 PM
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39. The need for this law school's website
Edited on Mon Aug-03-09 06:53 PM by madaboutharry
to take gratuitous swipes at the American Bar Association, accredited law schools, as well as attorneys tells you a lot about this school.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 01:42 PM
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18. She likely isn't popular with colleagues and judges so this may fly.
Kudos to whomever wrote the complaint. The opening is meant for the media and public, but when they start the analysis, they got right to it.

Nice work--should be interesting.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 01:53 PM
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20. It was well drafted
I was impressed.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 02:26 PM
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21. Key Aide to Taitz has already been disbarred
Taitz has an aide who is evidently doeing all of the work who is a disbarred attorney http://www.ethiopianreview.com/articles/19382
Orly Taitz, famously, got her law degree from an online correspondence school. And it turns out that Charles Lincoln, who has been assisting Taitz — he provided judges with amended complaints in Keyes et al v. Obama et al last week and he showed up at the last hearing on the case— has been disbarred in California, as well as Florida and Texas.

From the May 2004 issue of the California Bar Journal, which reported on the matter:

In 2000, Lincoln was convicted in Texas on a federal charge of falsely representing his Social Security number, a felony. As a result, he gave up his license to practice in the state.

Originally charged with five felonies, the case resulted from Lincoln applying for a checking account using a false Social Security number.

In a second matter, he was disbarred from U.S. District Court for the Western District of Texas after a federal judge requested an investigation of Lincoln because two of his clients had a falsified receipt. The receipt purported to be from the federal court clerk and represented funds the clients had given Lincoln. The clients believed Lincoln was depositing their money in an escrow account related to their case.

Two days before a hearing by the federal court’s admissions committee, Lincoln went to his clients’ home, instructed them not to tell the judge that he gave them the receipt, which he asked them not to produce, and he gave the clients a cashier’s check for $6,000. He did not appear at the hearing.
Both of the legal minds behind the Taitz legal machine may soon be disbarred
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 08:10 AM
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32. Falsely representing his Social Security number?
Like they've been accusing Obama of doing? Interesting.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 03:49 PM
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23. Taft Law school doesn't use the "case briefing" method.
Wonder if they even have an institutional license for WestLaw and/or Lexis/Nexis?

My best guess is no.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 03:59 PM
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26. It is an online course
I guess that you can not do the socratic method in an online course. Reciting on cases was a pain but I had some teachers who were really good and I learned a great deal from the experience
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 07:07 PM
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40. One thing that must be said is that spending
three years in law school is very grueling. For most people, it is hard work and it takes great personal sacrifice. I also had some wonderful professors and I also had some professors who were first class twits. But,I honestly can not see how it is possible to develop the thinking process required in law in the absence of the traditional socratic method. I think that experience has shaped the way I look at the world and approach life.

In my opinion this is why Orly Taitz presents herself in the manner that she does. She did not learn what needs to be learned by spending three years in a law school. It is more than leaning facts. She never learned how to think. That, in addition to the fact that I think she is insane.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:43 AM
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41. Taitz never had to recite in class
Taitz does a horrible job in interviews and it is clear that she never had to recite in class. Having to recite in class does help one formulate coherent thoughts and gives a law student some idea as to how to handle themselves if required. Tatiz is clueless as to how to handle herself because she did all of her training online at a glorified three year bar review course that did not prepare her for the real world and what lawyers have to do in real life.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:55 PM
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46. co-sign
Part of law school is learning to "think like a lawyer."

It's tearing apart cases and understanding what the issue is, what the controlling jurisdiction is, what the appropriate venue is, who the proper parties are, what the proper causes of action are, and many more important matters.

And that just gets one the degree and the chance to take the bar examine. It's several years into the practice of law that a lawyer really masters the process. That requires a lot of mentoring, too.

She's a train wreck. If she had any understanding of law at all, she wouldn't be filing such absurd and indefensible lawsuits.
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 05:28 PM
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30. Basically....
Taft is a four-year Bar prep course. Nothing more
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 09:39 AM
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35. A Three year Barbri
Yep, that's all it's about.

They teach the test and nothing else.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 03:57 PM
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25. I finally found another source carrying this
http://www.sodahead.com/blog/66817/disbarment-of-orly-taitz-sought-by-california-bar/
FINALLY there seems to be a chance that the madness will soon end. The Chief Trial Counsel of the State Bar of the State of California has filed a complaint against Orly Taitz, one of the more outspoken of the conspiracy obsessed, a woman who was unable to gain entry to an Accredited Law School and whose career seems to consist mainly of frivolous attacks on anyone within range. With luck, and with the wisdom that the Courts have unanimously shown when dealing with this ludicrous issue, Ms. Taitz will soon no longer be a practicing attorney. We can only hope it comes soon.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 07:11 AM
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27. Taitz has committed malpractice against herself
This is really very funny. Taitz is being sued by another birther lawyer. She is not admitted to the PA bar and so was representing herself pro se. Taitz is too stupid to know that you are suppose to file your answer with the Court and so is now in default http://acandidworld.com/2009/05/29/always-file-court-documents-with-a-court-birther-attorney-defeated-by-her-own-ignorance/
For some time now we’ve been criticizing the abject stupidity of the “birthers,” those attorneys and hangers-on determined to prove that President Obama is, somehow, a “half-breed Muslin,” ineligible for the office he legally holds. Some of you – I’m looking at you, deranged single-issue commenters – didn’t believe me. Well, the verdict’s in.

Last month, birther “attorney” Orly Taitz was sued by both a former comrade, and her ideological fellow-traveler, 9/11 “truther” Phil Berg. The merits of the complaint aren’t important. What is important, though, is that Taitz missed the deadline to file a reply — because she sent her response to the wrong address. No, she didn’t mistype the envelope. It’s far, far better than that. She sent her response to Berg, completely neglecting to file it in court. Apparently, Taitz’s correspondence law school didn’t cover lesson #1: “court documents should be filed with a court.” What’s this mean? Easy: she’s defaulted on her case, and will likely lose.
Not filing an answer in a lawsuit with the Court seems rather basic to me. It is clear that Taitz committed malpractice against herself by not filing an answer with the court in question.

Taitz is going to be disbarred. She also will have a default judgment in favor of Berg to deal with.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 05:16 PM
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28. Here is a non-pdf version of the complaint againt Taitz
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Saphire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 06:17 PM
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31. funny.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 08:38 AM
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33. We can only hope this will happen
but I kind of wonder if she will yet again slip through the cracks and be allowed to practice crackpot law.
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 09:37 AM
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34. Unfortunately, it will feed the delusion
Her supporters will simply put up the cry of persecution and point to it as more evidence of conspiracy.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 11:46 AM
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36. Taitz has fake Kenyan birth certificate that she is pushing
I do not think that it is possible to disbar this idiot fast enought. The latest birth certificate is obviously fake on the face of it.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 06:35 PM
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38. This video should be exhibit A at any disbarment proceeding
When this matter comes to a hearing, all they need to do is play this video and the case will be over very shortly. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x347359
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Nyquil Man Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:44 AM
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42. Shouldn't submitting a proven forgery to the courts be reason enough?
If she knew it was a forgery, she is a liar.

If she didn't know it was a forgery, she's stupid.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:48 AM
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43. Did you say DENTIST/Lawyer????????
OMFG - does this nut bag practice dentistry? Where oh where did she get THAT degree?

I wouldn't trust this lunatic to check my oil let alone stick her hands in my mouth!
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:51 PM
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45. Check out all of the malpractice clams against her
https://ocapps.occourts.org/CivilPubv2/SearchCase.do#top_page
Case No. Participant Type Participant Name Filing Date Case Type
06CC12669 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ D.D.S. 12/06/2006 MEDICAL MALPRACTICE

06CC03941 PLAINTIFF ORLY TAITZ 03/09/2006 MISC COMPLAINTS - OTHER

05CC12538 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ DDS 11/23/2005 MALPRACTICE-MEDICAL

05CC12266 CROSS - DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ 11/16/2005 OTHER REAL PROPERTY

05CC12266 ATTORNEY ORLY TAITZ 11/16/2005 OTHER REAL PROPERTY

05CC12266 PLAINTIFF ORLY TAITZ 11/16/2005 OTHER REAL PROPERTY

05CL06304 PLAINTIFF ORLY TAITZ 10/12/2005 BREACH OF CONTRACT/WARRANTY

05CL06304 PLAINTIFF ATTORNEY ORLY TAITZ 10/12/2005 BREACH OF CONTRACT/WARRANTY

05CL06304 PLAINTIFF ATTORNEY ORLY TAITZ 10/12/2005 BREACH OF CONTRACT/WARRANTY

AP14265 APPELLANT ORLY TAITZ 12/16/2004 MISC COMPLAINTS - OTHER

04CC06308 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ 05/28/2004 CONTRACT - SPEC PERFORMANCE

04CC05196 ATTORNEY ORLY TAITZ 04/23/2004 BREACH OF CONTRACT/WARRANTY

04CC05196 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ 04/23/2004 BREACH OF CONTRACT/WARRANTY

04CC05196 ATTORNEY ORLY TAITZ 04/23/2004 BREACH OF CONTRACT/WARRANTY

04SL01050 PLAINTIFF ORLY TAITZ DDS 03/04/2004 BREACH OF CONTRACT/WARRANTY

04SL00611 PLAINTIFF ORLY TAITZ 02/09/2004 BREACH OF WARRANTY

03CC12382 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ 10/10/2003 BREACH OF CONTRACT/WARRANTY

03CC12364 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ 10/09/2003 MALPRACTICE - DENTAL

03CC04813 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ 03/25/2003 MALPRACTICE-MEDICAL

00CC11017 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ 09/14/2000 MALPRACTICE - DENTAL

S41640 RESPONDENT ORLY TAITZ 02/27/1998 SMALL CLAIMS APPEAL

718165 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ 09/30/1993 MALPRACTICE - DENTAL
I would not let her touch me either
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 04:29 PM
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47. Other Birthers are attacking Taitz and wanting her disbarred
Philip Berg has sued Taitz and has stated that she needs to disbarred.

Now a non-licensed lawyer is also joining in. If you google (or use the Google) on the term vexatious litigant, one of the definitions contains a discussion of Andy Martin. Martin passed the Ill. bar but was not admitted due to severe character issues. Martin has filed so many frivolous lawsuits that he has to get permission of a judge to file anymore.

Now Martin is attacking Orly Taitz. http://www.pr-inside.com/andy-martin-says-it-s-time-to-r1425562.htm
I am not quite sure when Orly Taitz popped up. Ms. Taitz was born in the former Soviet Union, now Moldova, and became a dentist in Israel. She eventually ended up in California (doesn't everyone?) where she obtained a “law degree

California is one of a handful of states that still permits unapproved “law schools” to confer law degrees. These institutions are a relic of the past when most lawyers interned with practicing lawyers and “read” law in law offices. Despite the fact that the “law” has become incredibly complex, California persists in licensing unqualified and incompetent lawyers such as Taitz.

One of Taitz’ first crusades was the allegation that the U. S. Supreme Court was conspiring to deny “birthers” review of their claims. (That argument was also a profitable cash machine for Phil Berg.) As I pointed out, most of the birther lawsuits were untimely, poorly drafted and lacked adequate legal “standing” to proceed. Ironically, birther “conservatives” believed that “conservative judges” on the Supreme Court would attack Obama. The reality is that a judge's loyalty is first to his or her institution, not to a “cause

Taitz continued to spin conspiracy theories.

Recently she made claims about a California lawsuit she had filed. For the first time, I actually downloaded one of her legal documents. The arguments she made were gibberish. Her writing was incoherent and her presentation was nonsense. Taitz has no experience as a federal litigator. Her legal education was clearly deficient. Other than obtaining a degree” from a Cracker Jack box “law school she has no relevant legal experience. Yet she was wading into the most complex legal questions imaginable. Taitz substituted conspiracies for her lack of knowledge or competence.

I have been biting my lip because it looks bad for me, as someone who has my own lawsuit pending, to denigrate another lawyer’s filing. But in the past several weeks, Taitz has become intoxicated with her own nonsense. Last month she issued a release that said a federal judge had agreed to hear her case. The judge had “agreed" to no such thing. He had merely agreed to proceed with motions. Was Taitz the victim of her broken English? Or was she misleading the public? Or was she a nut? You be the judge. Her claims about the court’s action were incorrect.

The leftist media love Taitz. She is increasingly acting like a crackpot; what's not to like for the leftist media, portraying her as the “Queen” of a "crackpot movement." What could better serve the left than a right-wing nut with an accent, spinning out-of-control conspiracy theories and becoming increasingly oppositional and paranoid.

It is time for the “father” of the birther movement, me, to exercise some parental discipline. Orly is being grounded.

The Orly Taitz circus must be shut down.

First, Taitz is professionally incompetent. She is a dentist with a questionable law degree. She knows as much about law as I know about filling teeth (because she was trained in Israel, I assume she is an excellent dentist; but who knows?).

Second, most of Taitz’ conspiracy claims originate in disinformation. I don’t know who creates all of this disinformation, but I have a strong suspicion.

Third, Taitz exercises no professional discipline, and manifests professional incompetence, by filing claims and documents with courts when these claims and documents have no arguable validity.

Finally, Taitz has now turned on the media that are using her; she accuses people such as David Shuster (who is a distant relative of some sort of a close friend of mine) of being proto-Nazis. Enough. Taitz’ latest performance on MSNBC is an embarrassment to birthers, perhaps even to lawyers, since she is a licensed California attorney.

Here are the unavoidable factual issues, and the legal basis for the birther movement to move forward if it is able to disentangle itself from Orly Taitz and her crackpot behavior.
The birther movement has become such big buisness that the nutcases (including Andy Martin) who are pushing these stupid claims are now fighting among themselves.

Given the fact that Martin is not licensed and will never be licensed, these attacks on Taitz are really funny.

BTW, Martin is the birther who has ordered a boycott of tourists going to Hawaii until Hawaii gives him and only him a copy of President Obama's birth certificate. This is really going to be fun to watch
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