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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 03:30 PM
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Corporate Profits, Corporate Taxes, Employee Compensation ... trends.
Just to offer a "heads up" on the economic data I chart (and update periodically), here's the latest (per the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis) charts. I've finally resurrected my internet web space and can again 'hot link' to these charts.

To view an INCOMPLETE (not all up to date, either) list of the charts I keep to get a better handle on how I understand our economy, y'all can look at http://www.tahitinut.com/MyCharts.htm ... but it's a kludge right now.

It seems pretty clear that corporate income taxes (on profits) have continue to decline, from a post-WW2 high of nearly 50% to a recent bottom of just above 20% ... even though corporate profits have been a steadily increasing share of the economy AND employee compensation (despite HUGE CEO salaries) has continued to be raped.















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bluescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 03:37 PM
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1. Your last chart is particularly interesting.
The green line is almost a mirror image of the red line. Hmmmmm.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 03:42 PM
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2. republican voters just don't get it
they believe that if corporations are not taxed, that somehow workers will get a wage increase.... guess what dumbasses.... it never happens!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 04:17 PM
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5. As employee compensation (an expense) decreases, corporate taxes increase ....
Edited on Thu Jul-30-09 04:22 PM by TahitiNut
... when the other variables (gross revenues, tax rates, etc.) remain constant. It's sheer idiocy to claim that increased taxes on profits somehow cause employees to be paid less ... the cause-effect relationship is EXACTLY the opposite. (It wouldn't be the first time mentally deficient right-wingers got cause and effect backwards. Wag the dog?) In fact, it could be argued that increased corporate tax rates actually lead to increased employment -- assuming businessmen would prefer to increase productivity through investment and larger payrolls rather than see profits get taxed.

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 04:24 PM
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6. thanks for that
I tried posting a similar graph about a year ago on Craigslist's political forum and it got flagged then removed. There are plenty of republican trolls online who do know this info is dangerous to their agenda. Have I told you how much I hate fascists?
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 03:43 PM
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3. Effective presentation of data.
K&R
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 03:46 PM
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4. Recommend
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 04:27 PM
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7. Looks like we need more union organizing.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 04:56 PM
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8. Where do those increasing corporate profits go?
Are there studies analyzing where the money goes? Are corporations investing it into expansion, R&D, new products, new jobs? Are they investing it in ever greater CEO bonuses who in turn are buying ever larger plots of land to build bigger and bigger homes? Are corporations investing this extra money in off-shore banks? Are they investing it in shipping jobs overseas and building factories in ever poorer countries where they can pay slave wages to the employees?

If this money just stayed in the banks at home it might at least be put to productive use by banks, lending it out to home buyers or car buyers. But I doubt that it is.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 05:22 PM
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9. When corporations spend money in new facilities ("investing"), it's an expense and reduces profits.
Edited on Thu Jul-30-09 05:23 PM by TahitiNut
R&D still offers tax credits (afaik) so that't not just an expense that reduces profits but also additionally reduces taxes. After-tax profits go to owners (dividends) and into off-shore 'investments' as far as I can tell.

CEO bonuses and salaries are "employee compensation" -- again, an expense that reduce profits.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 12:19 AM
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10. For the night owls
:kick:
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