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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:46 PM
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So who is the first really dumb politician that you remember?
Mine was Dan Quayle. Up until then, even the most corrupt and most colorful of politicians that I remember, usually could speak English quite well and write in it too. I mean, think Richard Nixon or Newt Gingrich or even Huey Long. No matter how deceiving and corrupt they were, they weren't stupid and they would have died a thousand deaths before appearing to be stupid. So where did we suddenly get this flowering of really stupid people in responsible positions of government that literally hold life and death decisions over us and who put them there? I refuse to blame the voter. By the time we get to vote, all that's left are the stupid and the bribed that our corporate overlords have allowed to finish at the polling place.

George Bush and Sarah Palin aside, who is your favorite dumb ass politico and what was the most stupid thing that they ever did or said?

My vote is for Ahnold. No one told him that all those weights and steroids would create a muscle mass between his ears instead of brains. Too bad Maria, the journalist, didn't point him toward the crossword puzzle in the paper instead. It would have helped his English as well. Maybe he wouldn't have had such a hard time communicating his leadership to his own party.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:53 PM
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1. Ford.

SNL was merciless in their coverage of Gerald.

"There is no Soviet domination of Eastern Europe and there never will be under a Ford administration."
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:54 PM
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2. I met a few Boston pols when I lived there
and quickly realized that once they were off script, they were dumb as a bag of hammers. I can't give you names because I quickly dismissed them from memory.

Crazy politicians were something else. I am barely old enough to remember Joe McCarthy and the fear of that time. I lived in Jesse Helms country when he was first elected to office to piss off the Yankees. Since the 80s, nearly all GOP politicians have been bonkers.\

But yes, the first dumb national figure was Quayle. Then there was Stupid. Now there is Palin.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:55 PM
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3. Akhenaton
That idiot just SO didn't grasp the power of theocracy.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:15 PM
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15. And that Ramsses II wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer
Edited on Thu Jul-30-09 11:15 PM by Canuckistanian
His peace treaty with the Hittites was said to be the inspiration for Neville Chamberlain.

Dumber than a box of scarabs, that one.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:55 PM
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4. Well, Gerald Ford had a reputation for being a little dense
Edited on Thu Jul-30-09 11:25 PM by Art_from_Ark
And it didn't help matters much when he started the "What about Poland?" stuff by claiming erroneously in a debate with Jimmy Carter in 1976 that Poland wasn't under Soviet domination.

But the earliest all-around doofus that I remember before the advent of Duhbyuh was undoubtedly Ronald "Trees cause more pollution than cars" Reagan.
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:56 PM
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5. Spiro Agnew sounded like one to me.
Why did Nixon even choose that clown?
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:07 PM
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11. Oh yes - Spiro was the original GOP that complained about "elitists"
Something we can blame partly on Pat Buchanan:

Agnew was known for his scathing criticisms of political opponents, especially journalists and anti-war activists. He attacked his adversaries with relish, hurling unusual, often alliterative epithets — some of which were coined by White House speechwriters William Safire and Pat Buchanan — including "pusillanimous pussyfooters", "nattering nabobs of negativism" (written by Safire), and "hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history".<5> He once described a group of opponents as "an effete corps of impudent snobs who characterize themselves as intellectuals."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiro_Agnew#Vice_Presidency
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:22 AM
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35. Ha! That's who I picked, too.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:42 AM
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38. Agnew was from Maryland
Maybe it was considered a crucial state in '68.
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MisterK Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:00 PM
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6. Ronnie Raygun
Without a doubt
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:02 PM
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7. Quayle. I remember my mom being incredibly angry about his comments on single mothers.
Hell, even Tiny Toons made fun of him.
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 10:53 AM
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51. He dissed Murphy Brown
a fictional character . He is beyond stupid .
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:04 PM
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8. Estes Kefauver -
He was going after all these men who looked like my relatives, and my parents told me that he was a very dumb man, very dumb, that the men he was questioning were capable of doing very bad things to him.

So I decided at a frighteningly young age that Kefauver was really dumb.

Of course, he wasn't........................
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Cresent City Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:05 PM
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9. I was 24 when Quayle took office as VP
Edited on Thu Jul-30-09 11:10 PM by Cresent City Kid
And yet I can't think of one who even appeared dumb before him. Reagan didn't display intellectual brilliance, but he was cunning and played the down to earth bit like a virtuoso. My local politicians were from Louisiana where you had to be slick or you got out-slicked.

Now, we have a steady stream of GOP dumbasses. They thought they had to diametrically oppose every Democratic quality, including academic excellence.

(On edit): I forgot Ford, but I think he had average intelligence. I still say Quayle is the first that stunned me with how dumb he was.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:06 PM
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10. When I was a kid in the 50's we had a small town mayor
that was dumber than a rock. He bragged about how he was held back in the first grade for 5 consecutive years. You are not going to like this but he was a Democrat.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:24 PM
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23. That's nothing.
My town had a councilmen who beat the shit out of other council members with a sledge hammer if they didn't vote his way. I wouldn't want to get on that guy's bad side. :yoiks:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:08 PM
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12. Gotta agree, Quayle
He was the prototype.

The quintessential dumbass, always making stupid statements and having nothing enlightening to say. Michelle Bachman must have studied him.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:09 PM
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13. Strom Thurmond



I don't know how he ever made it.


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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:10 PM
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14. I was never impressed with George Wallace
Oh, he knew how to work the race-baiting routine. But in 1960's Alabama it didn't take smart.
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:16 PM
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17. I'd have to agree. In the 60's on the national stage, it was George Wallace.
Always reminded me of a dumbass good ole boy, a very dim bulb. Ronnie Raygun was the next one.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:23 PM
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21. Lester Maddox gave George Wallace a good run for his money
Edited on Thu Jul-30-09 11:24 PM by Art_from_Ark
I think Maddox may even have been dimmer than Wallace.
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xfundy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:12 AM
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32. Pickwick! Pickwick!
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:38 AM
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37. Yeah, Maddox's infamous Pickwick Fried Chicken
"We don't serve no coloreds heyah"
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CurtEastPoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 07:10 AM
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42. Actually, it was 'Pickrick'. See photo
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 10:42 AM
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46. LOL! I had completely forgotten about Lester. You're absolutely right. They were neck and neck in
the idiot race.
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angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:34 PM
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27. He was smart enough to run his wife Lurlene
in his place to avoid term limits and the people of Ala. were dumb enough to vote her in!
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:16 PM
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16. Quayle for me, too. nt
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:17 PM
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18. Ford.
He was a harbinger of things to come.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:18 PM
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19. Ronnie Raygun....
...walk and chew gum at the same time? Hardly!
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:20 PM
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20. Qualye as well, and I was 9 when he was inaugurated.
Edited on Thu Jul-30-09 11:20 PM by Initech
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:24 PM
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22. George Wallace.
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:25 PM
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24. Reagan, then Quale, then Tommy Thompson.
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:26 PM
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25. Probably George W. Bush.
Edited on Thu Jul-30-09 11:28 PM by armyowalgreens
I was just turning 11 when he stole the 2000 election. I grew up watching him fuck this country over. Hell, I can barely remember what it is like not being at war.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:32 PM
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26. Mario Proccaccino. Ran for Mayor of NYC in 1969.
Everyday was a new chuckle.

You had to be there.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:46 PM
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28. Cong. Wilbur Mills nt
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 02:18 AM
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40. Mills was actually a pretty smart guy
He was considered likable and knowledgeable by his colleagues, and was chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee for nearly 2 decades. But he had one tragic flaw--

He started running around with an Argentine stripper named Fanne Fox. One night he got pulled over by the cops, and his stripper friend who was in the car decided to make a dramatic "suicide attempt" by jumping into the Tidal Basin.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:52 PM
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29. Really dumb? JB Stoner..
Edited on Thu Jul-30-09 11:53 PM by Fumesucker
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._B._Stoner

Edited to add: Lester Maddox wasn't the sharpest cutting implement in the toolbox either, I'm not sure which one I heard of first but Stoner was definitely even dumber than Maddox.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lester_Maddox
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 12:28 AM
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30. It's Quayle for me, too.
That was the first time I ever heard the term "assassination insurance," which is what Quayle was. I don't know how many times I said in the 1990s, "well, at least we didn't get to find out what happens when the country is run by someone truly stupid."

And then we did.

Something worth keeping in mind is that the Presidency is a job that demands considerable intellectual powers, so even smart people can be "dumb" in the White House. Few would ever accuse Eisenhower of being stupid, but political analysts of the time were amazed at how much he didn't know and didn't care about not knowing.

In the 20th Century, the list of "dumb" Presidents (both Bushes, Reagan, Eisenhower, and Harding) also happens to be the list of Republican Presidents, and for good reason. The Republican Party is a criminal organization that runs itself and its leaders from the inside, by unseen powers. Therefore, those powers gravitate toward candidates which can be easily controlled. The more complicated the crimes envisioned, the stupider the President has to be. That's why Sarah Palin is the next up to bat.

Once I started working as a pseudo-lobbyist on Capitol Hill, however, I saw more stupidity than you can shake a stick at. Senator Byrd runs around with extra copies of the Constitution in his pocket, because there are Senators up there who have never once read it.

But for the real idiocy, you have to look at the House. Ignorant-ass people with opinions--god knows where they got 'em--on subjects they obviously don't understand. People asking ten-minute long questions without a question mark in 'em. People who never, ever read a bill or testimony, and then go out on the floor and vote the way someone--who the hell knows who?--tells them to vote. Jesus, it's enough to make me want to tear my hair out, years after I got away.

If you people really knew the dearth of intellect in the House of Representatives, well, you'd know that this nation is at all times mere days away from total disaster and destruction. Seriously, I think that people who want to run for national office should have to go to school for at least two years to learn the jobs for which they are running. That would weed out the doofuses simply because they won't want to read all the way through the Bill of Rights.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 12:42 AM
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31. Arlene "magic bullet" Spector......
....and we all believed him.

He's not dumb, WE ARE!

Remember. for every finger that we point at "him", there are at least 4 fingers pointing back at "US".
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:20 AM
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33. Spiro Agnew comes to mind
and his "nattering nabobs of negativity." Sarah Palin's playbook.
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:21 AM
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34. Spiro Agnew
I was young but the only impression I have was that Agnew just stood there silent & looking like a dufus. He never said anything. Just stood there wit that "duh" look on his face.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:22 AM
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36. Reagan in the 1984 debates
Up until then I had supported Reagan, but watching that debate I thought "Why did I ever like this guy? He's a babbling idiot."

Unfortunately I still had a visceral dislike of Mondale. Something about his looks, attitude or mannerisms just grated on me.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:44 AM
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39. Actually, AAAAnold is quite smart - brilliant - by most standards...
His polcies and beliefs are wacko, but he is a VERY intelligent person...
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 03:16 AM
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41. Governor Ronald Reagan - Hands down!
Edited on Fri Jul-31-09 03:17 AM by GreenTea
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 07:15 AM
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43. I have to agree. The man was dumb as a stump.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 07:21 AM
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44. Many to choose from, sad to say.
In recent times it seems Rudy Giuliani deserves consideration. What a spectacularly lousy campaign he ran.

Quayle, certainly, was brain-challenged. No question.

Although I generally liked John Glenn, he was not felt to have ever been especially power-savvy and was whispered to be a less-than-terribly-cerebral U.S. Senator. "Glenn is so slow," one operative suggested, "it takes him an hour and a half to watch 60 MINUTES."

Governor Evan Mecham of Arizona would be a contender,

Going back a ways, Congressman Buzz Lukens of Ohio.





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melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 07:26 AM
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45. no party
or ideology or time frame has a monopoly on dumb politicians.

they are people and there are far more dumb people than geniuses.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 10:45 AM
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47. I remember when Reagan came along, thinking: "How can people go along with this dipshit?"
Reagan turned me into a hardcore liberal at the age of 14. Gawd how I despised him. The only good thing that ever came out of him was the sperm that produced Ron Reagan.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 10:45 AM
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48. Andrew Jackson. nt
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 10:48 AM
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49. Haha, I was thinking "Quayle" after reading the title of the thread...
...and before even opening it. I was eight years old during the '88 election season.
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 10:51 AM
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50. Spiro Agnew
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 10:58 AM
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52. Senator Roman Hruska
Famous for his defense of mediocrity. During the confirmation fight over Nixon's nominee for the Supreme Court Harold Carswell, who had been criticized for being a "mediocre judge", Hruska sprand to his defense with the immortal words "Even if he were mediocre, there are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers. They are entitled to a little representation, aren't they, and a little chance? We can't have all Brandeises, Frankfurters and Cardozos."

Aim Meh, Aim Hruska!
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 11:03 AM
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53. Senator William Scott of Virginia
Elected Senator in my home state in the nixon landslide of 1972, Scott was famously dubbed the "Dumbest Senator" in Washington by some magazine. The Democrat that Scott defeated, Bill Spong, spoke to one of my classes when I was in college and I asked Spong how it made him feel to have lost to someone dubbed the dumbest senator. He said that it made him question his faith in the electorate.

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