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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 11:14 AM
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Fl. Sen. Baker & Rep. Plakon want Fl. constitution changed to ban

Federal Health Care

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/30/fl-health-care-nullification/


As the Obama administration and Congress work to pass legislation that would expand affordable coverage for all Americans, some state lawmakers are trying to preemptively undermine those efforts.

Earlier this week, Florida State Senator Carey Baker (R) and State Representative Scott Plakon (R) introduced a state Constitutional amendment that, if adopted, would prevent Floridians from enrolling in any federal health care plan. The language of House Joint Resolution 37 states:

To preserve the freedom of all residents of the state to provide for their own health care:

A law or rule shall not compel, directly or indirectly, any person, employer, or health care provider to participate in any health care system.

“We believe this unprecedented power-grab by President Obama and Congress is clearly not in the best interests of the citizens of Florida,” Baker and Plakon said in a joint statement. Baker, who is a Republican candidate for Commissioner of Agriculture and Consumer Services, participated in the right-wing tea parties on July 4. Both he and Plakon are sponsors of a “sovereignty” memorial, a measure meant to serve “as a notice and a demand to the Federal Government…to cease and desist, effective immediately, from issuing mandates that are beyond the scope of constitutionally delegated powers.”

Their amendment to ban health care would need approval by a three-fifths vote in both the House and Senate. If passed by the legislature, Florida voters would vote on the constitutional amendment on Election Day 2010.
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bobw999 Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 11:16 AM
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1. Fools
Will e-mail them.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 11:20 AM
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2. Sen. Baker needs to be Baker-Acted. n/t
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 11:21 AM
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3. Florida 's senior population will love banning Medicare.
Maybe I'll just quit paying any taxes in Florida.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 11:29 AM
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6. "Keep the government out of my Medicare."
Unfortunately, seniors who think like that will go along with something like this.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 11:21 AM
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4. does that include Medicare? with all those seniors I recon they should be
prepared for an enormous riot from the old folks
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 11:27 AM
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5. To preserve freedom, options must be limited.
Hmm, for some reason the name George Orwell comes to mind.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 11:33 AM
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7. Brilliant!
In a state full of elderly retirees no less.


Fucking clueless clowns. :banghead:
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 11:53 AM
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8. Yikes! That's a terrible precedent to set.
I can imagine a number of states (including my own) doing something similar.

We can not allow the "individual mandate" if the states are going to do this.

:dem:

-Laelth
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 12:11 PM
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9. I seriously need to move the fuck out of this backwards state.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 12:17 PM
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10. While I think this is absurd, there is a difference between banning and not compelling to join.
There are many here that believe it is unconstituional to force people to buy health insurance..:shrug:
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:00 PM
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11. Title is misleading.
Edited on Fri Jul-31-09 01:00 PM by Statistical
To preserve the freedom of all residents of the state to provide for their own health care:

A law or rule shall not compel, directly or indirectly, any person, employer, or health care provider to participate in any health care system.


The bill would make impossible to require/force any person, employer, or health care provide to participate.

Nothing indicates anyone would be prohibited.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:16 PM
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12. So how do you think all those 65+ people in South Florida will like having their Medicare stopped?
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:43 PM
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13. How would this amendment force them to stop?
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