Would Jesus call our Medical Insurance system "an abomination"?

[elehhhhna]

Let's take Jesus back. He's totally on our side.

[glowing]

1. Yes, he healed the sick and touched the poor. Due unto others.

Jesus was the liberal who was put to death by the conservatives of the time.

[wryter2000]

4. I have a bumper sticker

"Jesus is a liberal."

[bobw999]

8. He didn't charge anyone for his healthcare.

[Laelth]

2. He always has been. n/t

:dem:

-Laelth

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

3. Wouldn't he technically be an insuarnce system . . .

you know, trampling down death, resurrection, eternal life. Doesn't a full faith in Jesus kind of render the whole medical insurance/longer life debate moot?

Just sayin'

[gleaner]

5. I don't think so...

what you believe in influences your own actions, but it doesn't necessarily affect someone who doesn't believe what you do.

People who have faith find it a comfort, and that's good for them. People who don't have faith find comfort in the ways that answer their own needs. Both views can co exist. Both sides have truth to them.

In the meantime, let's keep sending those cards and letters to congress until we get a viable health care system with a public option that we can live with now, instead of embracing the status quo and dying for it.

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

6. I suppose you're view is acceptable as long as Jesus is simply a sage, a philospher, a rabbi,

a prophet, etc.

But if one believes he is God incarnate, and I hastily assumed the OP believed this, then "comfort" about illness and death is a moot point. Death is abolished. There is only life. It's all a matter of HOW one lives one's life--not HOW LONG. I don't really buy this stuff, but it seems that this has been Christianity's message for the past 2000 years. You don't really have an historical Christianity without a resurrection--i.e., death is no more. This is Christianity 101, I think.

[gleaner]

11. My view is more complicated......

I don't believe what they do. Christianity is not the only religion which believes in a resurrection. Other older religions have a trinity theory too. Death is real, but it is treated differently. Even to most traditional Christians death is real, it is just that they believe their souls transcend death and continue on for eternity.

I have a traditional religion too. I'm a Quaker, but not all of us hold Christ up as the messiah. We are not evangelical, so I don't generally say what I believe unless someone asks. It doesn't much matter to anyone but me. I do think though as a human being that reaching out in kindness is the best way for me to live my life. Everyone else can live their faiths as they wish, up to the point when faith becomes tyranny and we have to say, "Think what you want, but leave the rest of us alone." Using their minds and always questioning people are bound to arrive at the best way to live their lives, and hopefully to leave us to live ours. No one person or religion has the whole truth. We have a bit of the truth; our own truth and whatever we can learn from others. Sometimes being not sure is the answer, but everyone should be free to decide for themselves. This is very important to me, and I am guessing to you as well, as you express it so eloquently, as much by what you don't say as by what you do say.































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7. Only if scourging, head lacerations...

spear/lance wounds and injuries to hands/wrists and feet due to occupational hazards were not fully covered.

[noel711]

9. Jesus supposedly spoke the word 'abomination' only 3 times...

in his teachings....

Once, in LUke, in regard to how many people treat others,
despite how he said humans should treat others
(Take that, oh pharisaical republicans..)

And twice (in parallel verses)remembering how the holiness
of the temple was besmirched by the presence of idols and
statues of Caesar, the dominating culture which oppressed
the poor,the homeless and the forgotten- those for whom
Jesus himself came to redeem with hope and dignity.

Pathetically, the conservative "~*+Christians!+*~"
Throw around the word 'abomination' as a judgement of others,
but by judging and condemning others, they condemn their own
lack of mercy and grace... they miss the point of Jesus' teachings.

Many contemporary scholars (John Dominic Crossan and
Marcus Borg to name a few) have postulated that Jesus'
words and presence were an irritant to the dominating
political culture that ground the poor and powerless to
the ground. Yeah, Jesus was a revolutionary, and poked
his finger in the eye of the powerful.
That's why they had to do away with him...
And that's why the powerful, dominating cultures even
today twist his words and teachings.. because,
damn it, his words even today upset the apple cart.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

10. I don't think so. I think he would blame the Churches for abdicating their responsibilities.

[cap]

12. Jesus would have driven them out of the temple

he would have overturned their tables and cast them out.