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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 11:34 AM
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Rove Admits Being ' CONDUIT ' of VOTER FRAUD Allegations
Source: The RAW Story

In a just-released interview conducted earlier this month with the New York Times and the Washington Post, former White House adviser Karl Rove appeared to be attempting to portray his involvement in the December 2006 firing of several US Attorneys as merely “peripheral” and not tied to any particular agenda.

The Times even headlined its story, “Rove Says His Role in Prosecutor Firings Was Small.”

However, all three of the US Attorney firings in which Rove has now admitted playing some role are linked by the common theme of allegations of voter fraud and by connections to a GOP front group known as the American Center for Voting Rights, which was formed in early 2005 to press the voter fraud issue. This suggests that Rove’s relationship to those three firings may not be as casual as he now claims.

Read more: http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/07/31/rove-admits-being-conduit-for-voter-fraud-allegations/
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 11:37 AM
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1. As a conduit, he is full of it n/t
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 10:13 PM
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49. I want to put that conduit
up its own ass.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 11:38 AM
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2. What a tangled web.
Rove is hoping that Justice will be unable to untangle it.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 11:39 AM
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3. He says his role was peripheral? He used to say it was non-existent.
Edited on Fri Jul-31-09 11:41 AM by rocktivity
Is Rove, like Cheney, doing some preemptive image-scrubbing because he sees the long arm of the law?

:think:
rocktivity
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 12:03 PM
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7. Typical Rovian fancy footwork weaving & bobbing while sowing more ' wiggle room '
safety seeds into these revolving charges. Should we expect anything remotely different coming from Turd Blossom ?
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 11:43 AM
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4. Rove's a "jabber" -- he gets people all excited and ready to act,
then he jabs them in the ribs and says, "Hey, why don't you..." and then sits back and watches them carry out his dirty tricks.

We all knew them in our early years in school. They ran with the bullies and were good at inciting others to do what they didn't have the guts to do.

He's no different than Rush. If we could stop those guys from their dirty tricks, this whole country would be a better place.

Rove should be sitting in a cell.
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 12:17 PM
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12. Kathgor, son of perdition whispering marching orders to his mindless minions.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:14 PM
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22. The remedy for Rovian contamination.
curare
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 11:46 AM
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5. He's a CON and he did DO IT. nt
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 11:59 AM
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6. "Conduit" is for electricity. Rove is more like a "Sewage Pipe", methinks. Just sayin...
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 12:29 PM
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16. Or septic tank.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 10:19 PM
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50. Turdblossom claims he is just a series of tubes!
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 12:12 PM
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8. Peripheral?
It should be not at all. Is that like "a little pregnant"?
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 12:30 PM
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17. LOL.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 12:13 PM
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9. Rove worked to have those attorneys fired because they wouldn't support a fiction;
disenfranchising the American People from having their right to vote.

The only way Rove came to power was by screwing the people out of their votes or having them counted, it's the only method he knows.

To call Rove; "traitorous scum" would give "traitorous scum" a bad name.

Thanks for the thread, Segami.
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 12:33 PM
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18. Your welcome!
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 12:14 PM
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10. How To Steal An Election And Get Away With It. By Karl Rove
Chapter One

Chimp Vs. Chumps

First one must realize that the ends always justify the means. Case in point. After stealing a Presidential election. You are now in charge of the very entity that will investigate and prosecute your theft of the election. Since the Candidate you entered in the election is little more than a shaved chimp. Of course you want to throw a monkey wrench into the wheels of Justice. It'll just seem like a natural manifestation of the inner chimp. Never forget that it's easiest to play America for chumps from a position of great trust and power.......
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 12:43 PM
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19. LOL! Some funny thoughts Wizard and yet so true. I love your " the Candidate you entered
in the election is little more than a shaved chimp." Haha, priceless!
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 12:15 PM
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11. He's a slippery devil all right:
“Yes, I was a recipient of complaints, and I passed them on to the counsel’s office to be passed onto Justice,” Rove told the Post, in reference to voter fraud complains which he had received from New Mexico. Rove further noted that the complaints “had the sound of authenticity to me. If what I’m told is accurate, it’s really troublesome.”


In other words, "Hey, I was just passing on what I had heard from other people. I didn't know if it was true."

Okay: who were those other people? Answer: there were no other people. "Voter fraud" was a key tool in the RNC's public relations push against a range of things, including USA's they wanted to supplant, and all the evidence of real electoral fraud practiced by Republicans.

Maybe Karl can supply the names of those who "complained" about "voter fraud".
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 12:25 PM
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14. For the one thousand and third time
The NSA did the spying (first wiretap Feb. 2001 in San Fransisco)
and the phone / computer hacks (see John Kerry Ohio 2004)

and the DoJ was the Muscle w/ the U.S. Attorneys being the hit men. (Don Siegleman)

The idea that somebody was manipulative as Rove would have all that power and not
use it seems a little far fetched to me.


**************

This is classic Rove; Steal elections (Florida 2000, Ohio 2004, Siegleman, and Max Cleland)
and then blame the people you stole the elections with "voter fraud."






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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:16 PM
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23. I'm glad you brought up Siegleman. Those USAs played Rove's game
and still are.

Those in the US government that had integrity got sidelined or fired; those that didn't got a good deal or promoted (ie Bybee).

Rove (and Cheney) were masterminds in politicizing Federal departments and agencies for their own nefarious agendas.

Sickening and disgusting, unpatriotic and un-American. But they sure can wave the Flag!

:puke:

The old adage: 'Crime does not pay' - does it, or doesn't it?

Time will tell.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:49 PM
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27. I live in Columbus OH and what I saw and heard in 2004 was wild.
Bush & Rove flew in and met w/ Blackwell and Franklin County BOE head Mat Damnschroder on election day 2004.

In Ohio 2004 we had more registered dems then repugs (not much but more)
new registrations were 35,000 (R) 350,000 (D) ..... were thrown away by a group called Move America Forward (dressed up to look like America coming together),
Move America Forward was a front group of Nathan Sproul and Assoc. ... they were paid $10,000,000 by bush/Cheney 04
the last money was for their help in the recount]
We lost more jobs than any other state from 2000 -2004
Exit polls showed Kerry winning by a comfortable margin

the whole thing was way dirty ..... Rove through Blackwell had a guy called Michael Connell send the voting data to a server
in Chattanooga, TN ...... the Sever was called Smartech and it took care of the RNC, bush/Cheney 04, and the private White House
e mails that Rove and Alberto Gonzales liked so much. BTW Mr Connell's private plane crushed last Dec. killing Mr. Connell.


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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 03:20 PM
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31. Me, too. and we've got the evidence (compiled by citizens, who took the time, $,
and effort to compile affidavits, went into BOEs and looked at the ballots, photo documentation, etc. All we ever asked for was our day in court. Conyers has seen the evidence. A member of the Judiciary Legal staff told me and others on a conference call that after reviewing the evidence that felt Kerry won Ohio in 2004-and of course, thus the election. If only our party would fight for their votes as hard as the GOP fought to suppress the votes.

:mad:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 04:06 PM
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35. We have tons of evidence about Ohio 2004 and the media will not touch it.
Hell 25% of all the voters in Cuyahoga County were removed from the voter rolls prior to the election in November.
That is more than double bush's "margin of victory" in Ohio 2004. The very same people who were purged from the
voter rolls in Cuyahoga county were found in files under the control of a Mr. K. Rove. (Bill Moyers PBS report)

One of the really good things that our friend Jenny B has done was to make the voting period prior to the election
open for 6 weeks of voting .... the republicans are good at stopping 1 day of votes but not a couple of months of
votes.

Rove needs to be in jail along w/ Blackwell, Damnschroder, and some democrats who went along the fix of 2004 ....
I might be wrong but a lot of the dems on the county BOEs seemed more than a little shaky to me.

BTW how is your husband doing?

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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 04:17 PM
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39. It's time for someone to go talk to Tom Noe in prison.
Noe was used by B/C, rove and the GOP, and now dumped by his BOE Chair wife, Bernadette who was implicated in Lucas Conty BOE misdeeds enough to be fired just after the election. It would be a good time to see if Tom might want to spill some beans in return for some favorable time reductions!


flashback:

Noe Attended White House Strategy Session With Ken Mehlman and Possibly Karl Rove, While His Wife Was an Ohio Elections Official. According to emails released by Ohio Governor Bob Taft's office, Thomas Noe used his influence to obtain a coveted invitation to a White House ceremony honoring the Ohio State University football team. The emails also revealed that Noe attended an "Ohio political strategy session" with Ken Mehlman and Collister "Coddy" Johnson, Bush's campaign manager and field director. Karl Rove was also listed as a possible attendee of the meeting. At the time, Noe's wife Bernadette was an elections official in Lucas County Ohio, an area that experienced extreme voting difficulties during the 2004 election, causing Secretary of State Ken Blackwell to ask for her resignation.

Noe Was "Man to See" in Northwest Ohio For Republicans. For nearly a decade, Thomas Noe has been the Republican Party's man to see in northwest Ohio, a confidant of governors and a prodigious fund-raiser for legislators, judges and just about every Republican statewide elected official.

Noe was Regional Chairman of Bush-Cheney Campaign and Frequently Spoke with Rove. As a regional chairman of the campaign, Mr. Noe had frequent contact with Karl Rove, the architect of the President's re-election. And Ohio, it turned out, was the pivotal state in the election, narrowly pushing President Bush to victory.

Bush Thanked Noe for "His Leadership". On October 29, 2004 at a campaign rally in Toledo, Ohio, Bush singled out Noe for his work on the campaign. Bush said, "I want to thank the grassroots activists. I want to thank my friends Bernadette Noe and Tom Noe for their leadership in Lucas County." After the speech, Bush and the first lady met with Noe and his wife backstage, to thank them for their "work on the campaign."

Noe was Pioneer for Bush's Reelection and Raised at Least $100,000. According to FEC filings Thomas Noe joined the elite ranks, and gained the access, of the Bush Pioneers, raising at least $100,000 for Bush's reelection campaign.

Noe Under Federal Investigation for Making Illegal Donations to Bush Campaign. According to FEC regulations, individuals can only donate $2,000 to a presidential candidate in the primary and another $2,000 in the general election. Noe is under investigation for possibly laundering additional contributions through other individuals, to skirt campaign finance rules. According to the Toledo Blade, "Gregory A. White, U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Ohio, confirmed that his office, in conjunction with the FBI, is looking into Mr. Noe, who was chairman of the Bush-Cheney campaign in northwest Ohio. 'We have publicly confirmed the investigation of Mr. Noe in relation to some campaign contributions,' Mr. White said last night. He said the investigation has been ongoing for a couple of months, but declined to comment on its details. Officials with the U.S. Justice Department in Washington are aware of the investigation, Mr. White said."
Noe Was Bush Pioneer and Opened His Own Wallet for Bush. According to FEC filings, Thomas Noe has donated thousands of dollars to National Republican politicians. Besides raising at least $100,000 for Bush's reelection and becoming a Bush Pioneer, Noe also donated his own money to the Republican political machine. During the 2004 election Noe donated $2,000 to the Bush-Cheney campaign and $2,000 to the Republican National Committee. Also, in 2000, Noe donated $1,000 to the Bush-Cheney campaign.


http://www.democrats.org/a/2005/10/noe_to_republic.php


Hubbie is doing much better, thank you for asking, although we heard last week that his Neurosurgeon is planning to place him on the surgery schedule again to work at further improvements. Thank fully we have good insurance-he spent over 6 weeks in the hospital and now another spinal cord surgery is in our future!

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 08:11 PM
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48. I kinda doubt that Noe will talk because if he does he is a dead man.
The DoJ still has a bunch of "bushies" in it and not unless Noe was placed in a
"witness protection program" the minute he would start to talk he would be killed.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 08:02 AM
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60. Noe is serving an 18-year Ohio prison term at Hocking Correctional Facility in Nelsonville
The Bushies are all on the outside. I'm sure a reduced sentence at this location would look mighty enticing.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 10:07 AM
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62. The bushies might be on the outside but I have no doubt that they ........
..... still have the connections to "reach out and touch somebody" if they deem it needed.

They play for keeps.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 07:19 AM
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59. I live Southeast of Columbus
In 2004 there were more political signs than I have seen in my entire life. And the vast majority of these signs were for Kerry. I was astounded that my candidate had so much support. I was not so sure of Kerry winning the overall election but I was certain he would win Ohio. He won but he lost. It is simply impossible that he actually lost Ohio in 2004.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 10:26 PM
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52. We won't forget stealing the Siegelman election in 2002. Payback is a bitch!
Edited on Fri Jul-31-09 10:40 PM by L. Coyote
ExxonMobil’s Alabama Paydirt
Scott Horton - Nov 4, 2007 - http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/11/hbc-90001584

Back in 1904, Ida Tarbell published what ultimately was to be seen as the seminal work of the muckrakers, The History of Standard Oil. It appeared first in nineteen installments in McClure’s Magazine, a rather less successful competitor of Harper’s, and shortly after the last installment appeared, Tarbell published the work in book form as well. In her work, Tarbell exposed the dark underside of corporate deal-making, the series of interlocking directorates and manipulations which had allowed John D. Rockefeller to build the oil leviathan and dominate the American market. Tarbell demonstrated that Rockefeller’s success came not so much from business acumen (though she never contested that he had plenty of that) as through a thorough understanding of how to game the system. John D. Rockefeller was a power unto himself. Politicians around the country were made and broken to suit him.

But Tarbell’s disclosures fueled the drive for antitrust legislation and a fairer and more competitive business environment—a drive which was, in its time, championed by progressive politicians of both parties, but particularly by Theodore Roosevelt. By 1911, Standard Oil was broken into thirty companies.

But over time, like the liquid-metal monster in the “Terminator” series, Standard Oil pulled itself back together again. It was aided in this process by a change in attitudes across the political spectrum, but most particularly it was aided by America’s campaign finance system in which politicians standing for election require increasingly larger sums of money to pursue their campaigns, and support from the corporate till is essential. The final act of rebirth occurred when the two principal surviving pieces of the company, Exxon and Mobil, merged at the close of 1999. The resulting behemoth, ExxonMobil, is the largest publicly traded integrated petroleum and natural gas company in the world. It is also the world’s largest petroleum and natural gas company by revenue, with revenues of $377.6 billion in fiscal year 2006.

The State of Alabama believes that it was victimized by ExxonMobil. According to the state’s complaint launched by the Administration of Governor Don Siegelman, ExxonMobil committed fraud and underpaid the state in a contract dispute over natural gas pumped from Mobile Bay. Alabama won that litigation, and a jury awarded the state a judgment against ExxonMobil of roughly $3.6 billion. Not chump change .....
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 12:27 PM
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15. Karl is a master of political double talk & misdirection. Five minutes into questioning him
and you'll be ready for a hot scrub & shower followed by delousing.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 04:09 PM
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36. You're right complete and total manipulation of the election
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 10:22 PM
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51. Throwing Dominici and Wilson under the bus??
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 12:19 PM
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13. Conduit = Origin?
Just a guess.
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 12:56 PM
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20. Will he EVER be held accountable?
Seems like everyday, a new piece of the puzzle falls out of the box. When will Rove/Bush/Cheney be held accountable? Ever?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:03 PM
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21. I think it's time to teach the public on what constitutes a conduit.
It's the biggest loophole to get around ex parte rules.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 04:57 PM
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40. The world is full of criminals
and turd blossom is surely a criminal, but when I think of that treasonous puke, I think villain and even that isn't strong enough to decribe the vileness of the piece of shit called rove.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:17 PM
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24. It would not surprise me if he altered transponders codes on 9/11
He is thick as thieves in just about everything else.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:34 PM
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25. Rove is a conduit, all right. Just like
a colon is a conduit for shit. And, I do mean "JUST LIKE."
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:35 PM
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26. Go to jail Rove! Go directly to jail! Do not pass Go....
and pay all your money in restitution for the crimes against America and the Constitution you evil-doing twit.
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lsewpershad Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 02:18 PM
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28. Mr AG
Rove must ivestigated and put on trial. What the hell are you waiting for?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 02:57 PM
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29. rOVE: “Thor (ACVR COUNSEL), Thank you so much for all you did to win this election."
HOW CAN A NON-PROFIT VOTING RIGHTS GROUP HAVE SUCH CLOSE CONNECTIONS TO A CAMPAIGN?

Today we attempted to get some more information about the "American Center for Voting Rights" (ACVR), a group who suddenly appeared on the Internet last Thursday. On Monday, they gave testimony to U.S. Congressman Bob Ney's (R-OH) House Administrative Committee during hearings held in Columbus, OH on the 2004 Election mess in the state.

(Please see this previous BRAD BLOG article for the emerging background on this supposedly "non-partisan" tax-exempt organization which was the only such "Voting Rights" group invited to give testimony at the hearings. And, oh yes, every single name attached to this group so far seems to also be attached to Bush/Cheney '04 Inc. and/or the Republican National Committee and/or the Ohio Republican party.)

Mark F. (Thor) Hearne, II --- the National General Counsel for Bush/Cheney '04 Inc. --- gave testimony for the group and is listed on the U.S. House Administrative Committee website as simply "National Counsel, American Center for Voting Rights". No mention of his current high-level connections to Bush/Cheney and his long history of working with other powerful Republican officials all the way back to his time working for the Reagan Administration.

-snip

http://www.bradblog.com/?cat=91&paged=8

GO TO THE LINK OF THIS TIMELINE-IT MOVES INTO THE CONNECTION W THE US ATTORNEY SCANDAL:

ACVR Timeline


September 18, 1998

Free Enterprise Coalition incorporated in Virginia. Director is William Todd, who is also ACVR litigation counsel.

November-December 2000

Bush-Gore Florida Recount. Republican personnel include: Jill Holtzman, Alex Vogel, Mark (Thor) Hearne.

Early 2004

David Ayres (John Ashcroft's Chief of Staff) asks James Comey for a list of weak U.S. Attorneys. Kevin Ryan is the only now-fired USA on the list. (Source: US News)

June 25, 2004

Center for Ethics and the Free Market, whose registered agent was Thor Hearne, releases report on voter registration fraud. The 9-page report includes an executive summary whose final paragraph reads: “In short, by inundating election authorities who are under significant legal and staffing constraints with such large numbers of non-verified applicants, the activities of these groups threatens to undermine the legitimacy of Missouri’s electoral system. Election authorities must continue their diligence to root out fraudulent activities and law enforcement agencies must watch closely for any potential defrauding of the system. Because of its commitment to open and honest government, the Center for Ethics will also continue to monitor the voter registration activities underway in Missouri.” (Source: Laying the Groundwork: A study of voter registration in Missouri. Center for Ethics and the Free Market.)

July 16, 2004

Thor Hearne of ACVR, in his role as Vice-President and Director of Election Operations for Republican National Lawyers Association, chairs the NRLA Election Law School and Seminar in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, where Republican lawyers are trained to be polling place challengers. He served as chairman of the same event the previous year.

September 2004

Several professors and PhD candidates from Rice University release a report titled, “Republican Ballot Security Programs: Vote Protection or Minority Vote Suppression – or Both?” depict the founding of the RNLA as a response to various legal challenges brought against the RNC for their in-house “ballot security” programs. According to this report, the RNLA gave the RNC cover and created the impression that these ballot security programs were not coordinated by the RNC. In addition, the RNLA served to “professionalize” ballot security programs, so that the front-line challengers were trained, aggressive lawyers, rather than regular volunteers.

October 26, 2004

Plaintiffs Rubick and Koralewski signed letters retaining Shumaker, Loop & Kendrick to represent them in a lawsuit “alleging fraudulent voter registration” against ACORN, NAACP, ACT, and other parties. The letter was signed “with the understanding that the Free Enterprise Coalition shall be responsible for payment of any and all of Shumaker, Loop & Kendrick’s costs and fees,” and that their retention was “further made with the understanding that the Free Enterprise Coalition has also agreed that it shall fully and completely indemnify, defend and hold me harmless for any claims, costs, expense, judgments, and legal fees whatsoever that might arise or be brought against me as a result of my participation in this lawsuit.” FEC is represented in the lawsuit by Alex Vogel.

October 29, 2004

Two individuals file suit against ACT, NAACP, ACORN and AFL-CIO using the Ohio RICO statute to claim that their votes were illegally diluted due to defendants’ fraudulent voter registration activities. They are represented by Shumaker, Loop & Kendrick. Rubick and Koralewski and Haynam alleged that ACORN had engaged “in a common scheme” and “conspiracy” with ACT, NAACP, and AFL-CIO to engage in fraudulent voter registration activity. However, in subsequent depositions, Rubick and Koralewski admitted that they had no direct knowledge to support any specific allegation against ACORN; and that their knowledge was based on media in general and the Toledo Blade in particular.

November 17, 2004

Karl Rove thanks Thor Hearne personally: “Thor, thank you so much for all you did to win this election for our President.”

-snip

http://ac4vr.com/index.php?id=6




THOR HEARNE'S OWN LAW FIRM BRAGS ABOUT THE CONNECTION:

What do the Presidents of many Missouri companies have in common
with the President of the United States? Lathrop & Gage attorney
Thor Hearne is their lawyer.

Hearne, a member in Lathrop & Gage’s St. Louis office, was the National
Counsel for the Bush-Cheney 2004 campaign. He was responsible for
advising the campaign on national litigation and election law strategy
as well as recruiting and overseeing local counsel.

From September through the election, Hearne traveled to every
battleground state and oversaw more than 65 different lawsuits
that concerned the conduct of the election. Every case was favorably
resolved and included matters before various state supreme courts,
several emergency appeals to the 6th circuit U.S. Court of Appeals
and writs to the U.S. Supreme Court as well as litigation in multiple
federal district and state trial courts.
-snip

“Thor, Thank you so much for all you did to win this election
for our President. Throughout a long and incredibly
hard-fought campaign, you gave it your all. Helped by your
efforts, the American people came to know and appreciate
the strength, wisdom, and vision of this President.”
– Karl Rove, Assistant and Senior Advisor to the President,
November 17, 2004

-snip
http://www.lathropgage.com/files/Publication/422d6088-bd1f-4047-9687-d8f06e39736c/Presentation/PublicationAttachment/5834fea9-ce65-425e-87c7-2d27fbc41f40/THOR_Insert.pdf


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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 04:11 PM
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37. I posted some info about it from some Brad blog articles at the time too
Edited on Fri Jul-31-09 04:12 PM by notadmblnd
I trying to find now, when the organization went defunct.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 03:11 PM
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30. The man has always been a piece of crap, and a liar, and he is still a piece of crap...
and a liar. There's not a crime he would not be in favor of as long as it's committed by a Repuke.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 03:41 PM
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32. K&R. (nt)
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 03:49 PM
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33. Bring back the Special Prosecutor statute.
We need one pronto, to investigate all of Rove's activities.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 04:05 PM
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34. he totally manipilated it all including having his cronies testify before congress
Edited on Fri Jul-31-09 04:07 PM by notadmblnd
Blog article in 2005...

Describes Himself as 'Advocate of Voter Rights' But Not as Bush/Cheney '04 General Counsel!

Monday's testimony to a U.S. House Committee by Mark F. (Thor) Hearne, the leader of the American Center for Voting Rights (ACVR) --- who also happens to be the National Counsel for Bush/Cheney '04, Inc. --- has just been added to the website of the "non-partisan", tax-exempt, one-week old "Voting Rights" group.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=1282

also from that link....

Testimony of Mark F. (Thor) Hearne, II
Committee On Administration
Columbus, Ohio --- April 21, 2005
Chairman Ney, Members of the House Administration Committee, thank you for inviting me to testify today.

My name is Thor Hearne. I am a principle in the law firm of Lathrop & Gage and a longtime advocate of voter rights and an attorney experienced in election law. I was appointed a member of the Missouri HAVA advisory committee advising the Missouri Secretary of State on Missouri's implementation of HAVA and suggesting appropriate amendments to Missouri election law.

Today I am here in my capacity as counsel to the American Center for Voting Rights. The ACVR is a non-partisan watchdog ? voting rights legal defense and education center committed to defending the rights of voters and working to increase public confidence in the fairness of the outcome of elections. I am joined in this endeavor by the almost a dozen Ohio lawyers from several of this states' prestigious law firms that have submitted a report detailing concerns that have come to our attention in connection with the Ohio 2004 general election...

The rest of his testimony is available at the ACVR website.

here's a later link with a Brad Blog update dated a few days later....
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=1283

Mystery Solved! Location of 'American Center for Voting Rights' Found! Exclusive Photographs!
Photos Suggest ACVR Website Developers Most Likely Very Very Tiny Republicans!
Funders for the so-far undocumented 501(c)3 organization and apparent GOP front group still unknown!



As you'll note, Dyke himself is listed on that record as both the group's "Administrative" and "Technical" contact at the address of "jim@dykeassociates.com".

Further, this morning a BRAD BLOG commenter noted that the Internic record for the domain name of DykeAssociates.com itself shows that the domain was established by Dyke in December of '04. By this afternoon, however, the information from dykeassociates.com's Internic record has also been made private as the one from AC4VR.com. Here is the information available before it was hidden by the owners from public view:
Registrant:
Jim Dyke
5029 Macomb St
Washington, District of Columbia 20016
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: DYKEASSOCIATES.COM
Created on: 06-Dec-04
Expires on: 06-Dec-06
Last Updated on: 06-Dec-04

Administrative Contact:
Dyke, Jim jim@dykeassociates.com
5029 Macomb St
Washington, District of Columbia 20016
United States
2022443558 Fax ---
Technical Contact:
Dyke, Jim jim@dykeassociates.com
5029 Macomb St
Washington, District of Columbia 20016
United States
2022443558 Fax ---

Domain servers in listed order:
WSC1.JOMAX.NET
WSC2.JOMAX.NET

So if Dyke himself is in South Carolina, and his own company is established as being in Washington D.C., who or what is "the company that designed the website" whom Dyke couldn't remember the name of, and who is described as working out of "8409 Pickwick Lane 299" in Dallas TX?




Could there be monied interests in Dallas, TX who might have something to gain from by producing smoke and subterfuge via a well-connected, but phony, "Voting Rights" group setup and run by high-level GOP operatives in order to distract from the real Election Reform organizations gaining steam in America?

Thanks to the dilligence and footwork of a few BRAD BLOG readers and foot-soldiers, we are now able to offer an Exclusive photographic look at the location of the mysterious "American Center for Voting Rights" (ACVR)! Or at least a look at the mysterious and unnamed Dallas, TX company who is said by ACVR press spokesman, Jim Dyke, to have developed their website.

Mods; If I have taken too many liberties with the article from Brad Blog, please delete as you see fit.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 04:12 PM
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38. as soon as the U.S. Attorney scandal broke and Gonzo was in hot water .....
.... A.C.V.R. went bye bye pdq.

p.s. The Ohio State University's Moritz College of Law gave cover to those bullshit hearings w/
Thor Hearne too. Oh look it is the Buckeye School so the hearings must be good.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 10:55 PM
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54. Congress was misused to give them legitimacy = Rep. Bob Ney (R-OH, Prisoner No. 28882-016)
ACVR's OHIO Report, Rep. Bob Ney (R-OH, Prisoner No. 28882-016), & Jive F. Turkey, Sr.

OHIO ELECTION ACTIVITIES AND OBSERVATIONS
Report to the United States House of Representatives
Committee on House Administration, Representative Robert W. Ney, Chairman
Submitted by The American Center for Voting Rights, March 21, 2005
http://web.archive.org/web/20060209215847/www.ac4vr.com/reports/032405/OhioElectionReport.pdf


Contributors (aka Felonious Bob's Jive Turkey List):
Mark F. (Thor) Hearne, II, William M. Todd, Mary C. Mertz, James E. Burke, Patrick F. Fischer, R. Patrick DeWine, Charles H. Gerhardt, III, Drew M. Hicks, Douglas G. Haynam, Mark R. Weaver, Mark Landes, Jeffrey Stankunas, Jack Morrison, Jr., Thomas M. Saxer, Thomas R. Houlihan, Tim A. Greenwood, James P. Silk, Jr.

The American Center for Voting Rights, in association with various law firms and legal
counsel involved in the conduct of the Ohio presidential election, has assembled this report of
events that occurred during the 2004 election. This investigation found the following:

Third party organizations, especially ACT, ACORN, and NAACP engaged in a
coordinated “Get Out The Vote” effort. A significant component of this effort appears to be
registering individuals who would cast ballots for the candidate supported by these
organizations. This voter registration effort was not limited to registration of legal voters but,
criminal investigations and news reports suggest, that this voter registration effort also involved
the registration of thousands of fictional voters such as the, now infamous, Jive F. Turkey, Sr.,
Dick Tracy and Mary Poppins. Those individuals registering these fictional voters were
reportedly paid not just money to do so but were, in at least one instance, paid in crack cocaine.

The fraudulent voter registrations, however, appear to be only part of the effort of these
organizations to influence the election. There was an apparently coordinated national litigation
strategy to manipulate election laws in battleground states and, specifically, to eliminate the
provisions of election law that would prevent vote fraud. ....
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 10:52 PM
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53. Jason Leopold: Mark “Thor” Hearne, Bush Operative Pushes Voter-ID Law
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3290432

Bush Operative Pushes Voter-ID Law
Jason Leopold - the Public Record - May 14, 2008
http://www.pubrecord.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=9


A senior legal adviser to the Bush-Cheney 2004 reelection campaign is working behind the scenes to help enact a Missouri state constitutional amendment that critics say would suppress the vote in the key battleground state this November by requiring voters to show proof of citizenship.

Mark “Thor” Hearne, Bush-Cheney’s national counsel in 2004 and now a partner in the St. Louis, Missouri, firm of Lathrop & Gage, has been collaborating with Missouri’s Republican state Rep. Stanley Cox, the sponsor of the constitutional amendment, Cox’s office confirmed this week.

For years, Hearne has been a leading Republican figure demanding stricter voter-identification laws and popularizing claims about widespread voter fraud, although many election experts dismiss such alarms as hyperbole.

During the 2004 campaign, Hearne reportedly worked with White House political adviser Karl Rove on “voter fraud” issues and spearheaded GOP efforts to challenge voter-registration drives by pro-Democratic groups.

............

=================
Mark F. "Thor" Hearne & election fraud timeline

1976 - Hearne ... a page at both the national and Missouri GOP convention
1980 and 1984 - Hearne was an alternate at the Missouri GOP Party convention
1986 and 1987 - Hearne worked for the Reagan administration... a law clerk and attorney
2000 - Counsel to the Bush-Cheney campaign ... an operative in the so-called "Brooks Brothers" riot that stopped the Florida recount ... a Republican election observer in Broward County
2002 - ... Republican lawyer who led the Missouri legislative redistricting fight
2004 – Counsel to Bush-Cheney re-election campaign
3/21/05 – Hearne shows up masquerading as a "non-partisan voting rights activist" ...newly created American Center for Voting Rights (ACVR)
...
5/2/07 – Hearne admits that he hired powerful GOP connected attorney William Mateja to intervene in the DOJ investigation of Missouri Governor Matt Blunt
2007 – All traces of Hearne's connection to the ACVR and Free Enterprise Coalition vanish from the internet

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1159656&mesg_id=1159656
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 05:22 PM
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41. Mr Rove is consulting for himself. He thinks he can talk his way out of this
because he's been told he's so great and wonderful. He's consulting himself which pretty much will trip him up and probably very soon. This consultant has a fool for a client.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 05:23 PM
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42. That's like saying Himmler's role in the Holocaust was "peripheral."
Yeah, right, REALLY small!
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 05:47 PM
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43. conduit: a means by which something is done...
Rove admitted to a crime... He should do time, because he's slime!
:patriot:
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 05:49 PM
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44. He'll probably get off scot-free.
The Obama Justice Department doesn't want to prosecute anyone from the Bush administration.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 06:54 PM
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46. That's what Isikoff & Corn seemed to imply on Tweety!
:mad:
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 06:47 PM
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45. Karl "Cloaca" Rove -- nt
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 07:11 PM
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47. And those three are just the ones he has "admitted" to
So-called "voter fraud" was central to John McKay in Washington State being turned down for a federal judgeship and then fired from his job as a US Attorney.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=8922947

John McKay, the former U.S. attorney in Seattle, said he was accused of mishandling voter fraud when he interviewed at the White House for a federal judgeship. The specific question: why he had mishandled the investigations into voter fraud connected to Washington's very close 2004 gubernatorial election. That election was won by a Democrat.

He did not get the appointment. Three months later, he was terminated.

McKay says his office thoroughly reviewed every allegation, and every piece of evidence submitted in a state court case to overturn the election.

"We concurred with the state trial court judge that there was no evidence — and let me just emphasize, zero evidence — of election voter fraud in that election," he said. "And so we, in consultation with the voting rights section of the Department of Justice, and fully documented with the Department of Justice, concluded that there should be no further federal investigation on the election."


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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 01:10 AM
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55. This is chapter 1. When conflicting testimony is taken, Rove will have a big
problem.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 02:49 AM
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56. poor pudgy kkkarl's has had a bad week...
i hope that jeff is conscientious enough to give him a reach-around.

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Presidentcokedupfratboy Donating Member (994 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 03:53 AM
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57. What a surprise
He's a scumbag.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 04:17 AM
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58. Is that like Gary Conduit?
Sorry. :blush:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 08:05 AM
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61. rove continues to give the finger to the constitution
if we as a nation choose to ignore the criminal element in our government we deserve karl rove
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