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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:02 AM
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Der Spiegel: Muslims Angered by Verse in German Soccer Club Song
Geez, since no one knows why the offending line is in the song in the first place, just replace it with something else.
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08/04/2009

'MUHAMMAD KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL'
Muslims Angered by Verse in German Soccer Club Song


The verse "Muhammad Was a Prophet Who Knows Nothing About Football" in the official song of German soccer club Schalke 04 has sparked more than 100 complaints from Muslims. The club says it's looking into the matter.

German Bundesliga soccer club Schalke 04 has received more than 100 complaints from Muslims about its club song which contains the verse: "Muhammad was a Prophet who knows nothing about football."

The song with the title "White and Blue, How I Love You" has been around for decades but only recently came to the attention of Turkish media which said it insults the Prophet.

Muslims are now demanding that the offending line be struck from the song, which is chanted by Schalke's fans before every match.

The management of the club, based in the western town of Gelsenkirchen in the industrial Ruhr region, is concerned about the complaints and says it is consulting an expert on Islam.

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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:35 AM
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1. Muhammad dribbles through the Schalke 04 defense ... he fires and



goooooooooooooooooooooooool

Muhammad - 1
Schalke 04 - 0

You're right, it is offensive and should be taken out. But will that spark a riot ?

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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:01 AM
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2. Were you a sportswriter in another life?
#30#
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:09 AM
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5. .... and Jesus saves!
Sorry, but that punchline is so old, there's an Act of Parliament requiring it to be used in all situations.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:39 AM
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9. screw them if they dont get the humour
Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 06:41 AM by vadawg
nothing better than the banter on the terraces, would hate to see the classic non PC songs taken away....
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:07 AM
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3. For their own safety, maybe they should remove that verse.
Otherwise there will riots and mayhem from the Muslims.
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:12 AM
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6. Ahhhh..
...the soft bigotry of low expectations....
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:42 AM
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12. mayby, but whats the bets there will be some violence due to this
im a betting man and i would not bet against it, its like the danish cartoon palaver, we are going to PC ourselves to death...
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 09:26 AM
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25. Hahaha at least bigots get to keep their heads...it is the naieve that will end up beheaded on video
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 02:10 AM
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35. Do you really believe your own words?
I read your other posts, and if I read you correctly, you are a marginal Democrat, a marginal liberal. You like guns a lot, nothing wrong with that.

What makes you such a defender of Muslims?
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 10:25 AM
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27. Ahhh, the hecklers veto strikes again
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 04:19 AM
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:14 AM
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7. Can anyone translate into German? My guess is it's a nonsense rhyme that sounds good in German nt
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:28 AM
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8. Here is the German text
Mohammed war ein Prophet, der vom Fußballspielen nichts versteht. Doch aus all der schönen Farbenpracht hat er sich das Blau und Weiße ausgedacht.
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Gwendolyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:27 AM
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18. What's so terrible about those lyrics? I don't get it. n/t
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 08:12 AM
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21. Nothing
Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 08:14 AM by MissHoneychurch
They are saying that the riot was started by Neo-Nazis who wanted to get a rift between the fans. Schalke has a lot of Turkish fans. The song was written in 1963, and only now there is a problem with it?
Also, I read today that the Central Council of Muslims in Germany doesn't think it is bad. I only have a German link http://islam.de/13516.php

Altogether it is a hype about nothing.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:42 AM
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30. See how CONTEXT IS EVERYTHING yet again.
Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 11:42 AM by Karenina
Schalke's Turkish fans' opinions would be of primary interest to me. However, I DO understand the increased sensitivity in light of recent events...
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:05 AM
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29. Thanks! but I don't get the chant. nt
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:44 AM
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31. just a soccer song
if you look at the lyrics of most of them, they can be random, political, violent, bawdy, funny or just irreverent...but whatever it is, it has to be unique -- besides, almost everyone is piss drunk when they are belting it out, anyways...
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 07:38 PM
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36. And if you don't piss your rivals off
YOU'RE NOT DOING IT RIGHT!!!! :rofl:
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BolivarianHero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:39 AM
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10. Ummm...It's a non-sequitur being that uses racism as a conduit for arbitrarily riling fans...
It should be removed, and I have no love for Islam. I think that part of the world needs a good dose of communism more than anyone else; it worked in Western Asia.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:42 AM
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11. fuck oversensitive Muslims. may they die of their own self righteousness
just like the stupid fuck Christians running around our parts. All can suck me. Take that you Muslim extremist fucks.

P.S. Mohommed DOESN'T know jack shit about football. Jesus also knows nothing of basketball.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:45 AM
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13. bravo, this crap is going to overwhelm us, and we all know jesus played ping pong..
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SeriousEbony Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:49 AM
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14. If only they would get as upset when muslims kill innocents
or when they daily abuse women and rape children. I'm sure a fatwa will be issued soon for the
death of anyone singing the song.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:24 AM
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17. Muslims aren't the only folks who kill innocents, abuse women and rape children.
Or hadn't you heard?

Some of the worse that happened that you don't know about, ok. Videos, there are women there. Some of you may have read they were passing letters, communications out to their men. This is at Abu Ghraib which is 30 miles from Baghdad <...>
The women were passing messages saying "Please come and kill me, because of what's happened". Basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys/children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. The worst about all of them is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror it's going to come out. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/7/14/193750/666


http://www.wvpubcast.org/newsarticle.aspx?id=10629

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/14864


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SeriousEbony Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 08:33 AM
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24. Of course I am aware of that abuse
Why on Earth would you think otherwise?

It would be great if there was Muslim outrage about those abuses too. Even better if it was as great
as their outrage at cartoons.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:52 AM
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15. These guys really need to lighten up!
What if Catholics or Jews got bent out of shape at humor at their expense?
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:58 AM
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16. So is there any evidence that Muhammad actually did know about football?
I read somewhere that the Buddha couldn't lay down a bunt to save his life.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:28 AM
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19. Georgia Tech, U. of Georgia sue U. of Alabama over fight song.
In a press release from the Office of the Governor, Georgia Governor Sonny Perdue stated "This is hate speech of the vilest kind and will not be tolerated by the great state of Georgia!"

"Yea, Alabama!"

Yea, Alabama! Drown 'em Tide!
Every 'Bama man's behind you;
Hit your stride!
Go teach the Bulldogs to behave,
Send the Yellow Jackets to a watery grave!

And if a man starts to weaken,
That's a shame!
For 'Bama's pluck and grit
Have writ her name in crimson flame!
Fight on, fight on, fight on, men!
Remember the Rose Bowl we'll win then!
Go, roll to victory,
Hit your stride,
You're Dixie's football pride, Crimson Tide!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:37 AM
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20. Jesus Saves ... Moses invests.
People who wear their religion on their shoulders like chips are the bane of modern existence.

I don't care what anyone believes, as long as they don't expect me to tip toe around their absurdities.
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brendan120678 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 08:17 AM
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22. Oh noes!! It insults the prophet!!! BAN IT NOW!!!! (nt)
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 08:21 AM
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23. Get over it German Muslims
Jesus gets made fun of more than your guy, you don't see my ass complaining like its the end of the world.
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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 09:40 AM
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26. some self-irony on one side and some more respect on the other would fit.
:hi:
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 10:28 AM
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28. !
:hi:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:46 AM
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32. Of course he doesn't know football.
He's a fast pitch softball fan. Everyone knows that. Sheesh.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:55 AM
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33. Do the whiners mean to imply that Mohammad *did* know about football?
Frankly, the line makes sense for pretty much all religious figureheads, except maybe L. Ron Hubbard - he probably knew about (OK, knew of) football. Both kinds.

Of course, if they substituted jesus for mohammad the christians would whine about the use of the past-tense "was." It's so *mean* to their fragile sense of zombie worship...

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 03:47 PM
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34. Weird. (nt)
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