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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 10:47 AM
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I'm concerned that Bill Clinton's successful use of diplomacy will prevent future wars.
:sarcasm:
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 10:48 AM
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1. Diplomacy makes us look weak!
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 10:51 AM
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6. Hell yes, a nuclear exchange is always so much more fun! n/t
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:34 AM
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24. I'd like to see this new "BUNKER BUSTER"
Nukes are old school... BORRRRING!
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 10:49 AM
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2. He does seem to have that magic touch...
Is that Jindal? God, he's always been an ugly lil creep!
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:00 AM
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12. IT's just a PR victory, but we gotta take whatever we can get these days.
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:04 AM
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16. I think it's a bit more than that
Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 11:05 AM by stuball111
It's a victory for human nature...proves that words are stronger than bombs. The PR is an afterthought. And I don't think that was the prime motive behind securing their release.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:24 AM
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20. It worked; it's ours and no one got hurt.
When's the last time that happened?
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:31 AM
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21. Amen Sarge...
I'll take anything positive these days.. and despite all the crap, I still see hope for the future...
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:40 AM
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26. Yes. One of the reason I voted for President Obama.
I've been starved for hope.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:42 AM
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27. It was a real victory for the people involved.
i call it a raging success.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 10:49 AM
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3. lol. Short but to the point. nt
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 10:50 AM
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4. It won't.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 10:51 AM
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5. Who unrecommended this thread?
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 10:51 AM
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10. Lurking freepers
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 10:51 AM
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7. Shit! I hadn't thought of that! Leave it to you to rain all over this event....nt
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 10:51 AM
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8. how will halliburton make money if we don't have wars!! and don't forget about
blackwater!! can't we think of the war profiteers!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 10:51 AM
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9. It seems dangerous.
What would Cheney do?
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 10:55 AM
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11. I am concerned that former President Clinton's masterful diplomacy could earn us respect.
And then the poor GOP will look back longingly over its eight-year reign of terror and turn into pillars of salt. Can't have _that_ happen. No siree, Bob. :D
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:01 AM
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13. It's Obama trying to murder the economy again.
The sales of American flags will be way down.

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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:52 AM
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29. Manufacture of American flags is outsourced to China, anyway, right?
Wouldn't you think some of those uber-patriots would take this dilemma up as a cause and set their nimble fingers to dying, cutting, stitching and sewing REAL American flags? I mean, since they're so anti-foreigner, pro-America and all, I think it's the LEAST they could do. :rofl:

Hey, sweets! Good to see you! :hug:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:02 AM
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14. Because of our weakness, the Taliban Navy is preparing to invade Atlantic City.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 04:12 PM
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34. .
:evilgrin:
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 04:12 PM
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35. Taliban purchase device from Pakistan. Place in a container
ship headed for New York harbor. Boom.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:02 AM
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15. Your opinion is duely noted, Mr. Bolton.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:08 AM
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17. I shure hope not. I own stock in GE and haliburton.
:sarcasm:
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:10 AM
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18. I like that
diplomacy works, theres just no two ways about that.

+1
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:15 AM
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19. Hugging is for pansies
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:32 AM
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22. Ha!!
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felinetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:33 AM
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23. I am proud that I voted for Clinton twice. He excels at this and I am grateful.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:34 AM
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25. lol
oh no you di'i'n't
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BecomingBrainy Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:44 AM
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28. Fox is probably disappointed
...
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 12:09 PM
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30. Me too. We might actually make progress as a country....
if this keeps up!:dunce:
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 12:36 PM
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31. Oh the pain, the pain!


:hi:
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lib_wit_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 04:06 PM
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32. Oh, didn't you hear? We gave away the store in exchange for Lee & Ling.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 04:09 PM
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33. I'm with Crowley on this one...
"As far as the atmospherics of Bill Clinton's trip to North Korea go, I think it's worth noting that this may be the best day the man has had since Hillary won the New Hampshire primary some 20 months ago. Before the 2008 campaign, thanks to his foundation work on AIDS and malaria and the like, Bill Clinton had a sterling reputation as a global statesman and do-gooder who floated above the fray of common politics. But during the campaign he wrecked that image in a flurry of red-faced outbursts and ill-advised (if sometimes distorted) critiques of Barack Obama.

In reality Clinton's trip didn't require much skill. The prisoner release was pre-cooked by the Obama team well before his arrival. All he had to do was show up and not smile too much. (What value he may have added in terms of sussing out Kim Jong Il's condition and mindset, and perhaps coaxing him towards more reasonable behavior, remains unknown.)

Nevertheless, this was Bill's first big test of the Obama administration--and he passed.

Actually, let me amend that. The first real test was whether Bill could keep his mouth shut and stay out of trouble in general, and for six months until now he's passed that one as well. It's a good thing for the Clintons -- but more important, a good thing for America, to see Bill making a positive contribution this way.


Now, why not send him to Kashmir? "

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2009/08/05/the-rehabilitation-of-bill-clinton.aspx
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