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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 12:56 PM Original message |
I've decided we should let the Republicans kill off the damn thing |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. how about we fight for single-payer instead. |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Exactly |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
45. My thoughts as well |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
50. Agreed ! n/t |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
60. Anything less then single payer is a waste of time and effort |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
62. That's what I'm doing. Write . Call. Hound them until there's a vote. nt |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
68. +1 |
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jocapo (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
3. You beat me to it. I was about to post the following: |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. Put the insurance industry through a 'slow bleed'. |
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
4. I think thats the plan all along. The blame will follow and 2010 will mark the end of the GOP. |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
5. Well a massive failure of a bill being called health care. and being passed as legislation |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
6. And the all or nothing crowd senses victory. |
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timeforpeace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. The "let's pass anything" crowd senses the big rush didn't work, actually backfired. |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. I'm all for baby steps in the right direction. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
36. Without the public option, there should be no mandate. |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. All or nothing, it may mean more then passing a bill that does not address key issues. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. I'd like to direct this question to you also... |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #22 |
47. The bill is not finished, and I am not that worried about day to day news stories for that reason. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
66. no public option IS nothing |
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followthemoney (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 12:02 AM Response to Reply #6 |
85. All or Nothing worked for the elimination of slavery. |
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tj2001 (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
7. They'll blame Democrats for "the Democrats' failed plan" |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
8. that did not work so well for us in 1993 |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
9. I agree |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
11. if it's going to FORCE me to buy "health" insurance, I too want it to die |
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theoldman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. I disagree with you on not having some kind of insurance. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. I don't know how long ago you were self employed |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
63. Yep. I'm self employed and have insurance, but it's complete crap |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. Oh yeah, the single people with no dependents will be screwed by this |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 12:26 AM Response to Reply #25 |
86. Governments main function is to take substance and control from people and hand it to others |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
13. Sure, let's hand the teabaggers victory and enourage them even more. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. This issue is not about political gamesmanship, it is about health care. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. it is about both |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. You may not have noticed it, but the peril is realized and we lost. n/t |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. no we haven't lost anything yet. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Another future, "told you so" post. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
70. So, just how sick are you? Tell us all how wonderfully your insurance company has |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:29 PM Response to Reply #70 |
80. what? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 02:38 AM Response to Reply #80 |
88. Her point, and I think it is valid, is that this clusterfuck of a compromised compromise |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. In all honesty |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. Right, having been handed victory, the right will be satisfied and stop |
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man4allcats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
15. Take robinlynne's advice upthread |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. 676 is a dead stick and at this point, worse than a waste of time. |
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man4allcats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #29 |
48. That's okay. I don't mind wasting a little time |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. My children have no access to healthcare and I have not the luxury of wasting their time. |
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man4allcats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. I'm sure you don't, |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #65 |
75. I hope to see single-peyer yet in my lifetime, but I feel it is crucial at this time to point out |
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man4allcats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 05:45 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. While single payer is at present certainly unlikely |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:32 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. All hard evidence (not wishful thinking) shows us that 676 IS nonviable. |
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man4allcats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 01:22 AM Response to Reply #82 |
87. At present, the viability of single payer lies not in its likelihood |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
34. Exactly, thanks for posting the link. n/t |
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Kansas Wyatt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
16. Obama should give the Republicans what they want, and start over. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
17. Could you help me understand the legislation? |
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FatDave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #17 |
55. Who has time to look for the bill when the sky is clearly falling??!?! |
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Ratty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
19. Kill it and try again after 2010 |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
24. These are must read articles .... |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
26. No bill better than bad bill. |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. +1 |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. +2 nt |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
69. -1! |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
28. It's a good thing you are not The Decider. n/t |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. +1 |
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ThoughtCriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
35. Flash back to 1993, and then to 1994 |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
40. Damn it .. here we go again... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
42. How does one kill a corpse? |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
43. yeah... what great idea...WTF?! |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
44. Kucinich - "We have to be ready with the only solution that exists - and that is 676" |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
46. We can't! |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. The Democrats should move to option number 1 - change strategy |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Right now it is about weather Senators will retreat. |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. You and Warren have given me something to think about. |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. You're welcome. |
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ChimpersMcSmirkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #46 |
74. Amen. Something is better then nothing and victory is better then defeat. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
51. That's very selfish of you. I can think of many ways that the |
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orwell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
57. An alternative to killing it... |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
58. Republicans simply lack the numbers to kill health reform. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
59. It's just a giant moneybag handed to already flush insurance corps. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
61. I almost have to agree with you, but if I'm right, there might be a |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
64. The health insurance cartel will now push it through. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
67. is everyone finally starting to get it? |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. I hope Obama is making alternate plans starting in 2012 |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
72. If you rec this OP, you're a fucking idiot...... |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
73. I'm becoming inclined to agree. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
76. Sorry, but ending denial based on pre-existing conditions... |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:20 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Do you mean that you would accept a bill that forced insurance companies to issue policies |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:29 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. It would have to have both of those conditions |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 11:28 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Yes, but the community rating will be based on age. |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
78. If we can't have single payer, they need to end Medicare and SS too. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
84. Thank Gawd you are not in charge! |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 02:56 AM Response to Original message |
89. Let's take a look at your claims |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
90. That's what I said |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
91. Kill it? |
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