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tinkerbell41 (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:37 AM Original message |
Healthcare question : I hate to ask |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. "everyone would lose their jobs" |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. She'll still be needed. |
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tinkerbell41 (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 10:14 AM Response to Reply #6 |
17. My thinking also. |
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Old Codger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
2. Misleading info |
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abluelady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
3. Let's Look At It Another Way |
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tinkerbell41 (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:41 AM Response to Reply #3 |
13. Yes. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
4. I agree that Medicare/Medicaid/SCHIP all pay providers less than what they would charge someone |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:23 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. plus, if you think about it.... medicare doesn't make the doctor or hospital fight for payment |
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roakes10190 (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
5. pay scales |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
7. Has it occurred to them that the procedure shouldn't cost $2,000? |
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yost69 (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
8. I am against the reform as well but I think her numbers are wrong. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:40 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. You need to start over. You don't want to see reform, so I assume you're wealthy enough not to be |
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yost69 (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. I am not against a reform. I am against the reform proposed. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Wrong. In the draft of HR3200, discussion of the Public Option isn't until page 116: Title II, |
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yost69 (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Let me put this in a way that you understand |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. OK, why are you even on DU? You are so wealthy that you will be able to pay |
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yost69 (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. So my mandatory laws are insane but the one in the bill is not? |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 08:03 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. So do you advocate driving on public streets without auto insurance? That's a government mandate. |
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yost69 (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. NO |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. $5k deductible for a SINGLE person?! Jeebus, that's outrageous. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Fortunately, it's also not true. |
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abumbyanyothername (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:44 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. who would waste 7 years and more of their life to become a doctor? |
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tinkerbell41 (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. My kid wants to be a vet. |
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yost69 (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. Well said. But |
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ItNerd4life (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. I think you are confusing doctors with politicians |
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justgamma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
9. Does she work in a large city office or a small |
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tinkerbell41 (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:52 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Large city. |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
11. Here's another way to look at it... |
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tinkerbell41 (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:50 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. See, I wish I was prepared. |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 10:23 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I hear what you are saying... |
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tinkerbell41 (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. I have questioned that more lately. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 10:26 AM Original message |
See the link |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
20. She has a vested interest in the status quo |
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dugaresa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
21. I worked in medical billing and let me explain |
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tinkerbell41 (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Aha! |
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dugaresa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I did consulting in the billing industry for years |
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ItNerd4life (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Now that is an intelligent post. |
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dugaresa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Shopping for insurance is not easy unless you understand what you are doing |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. Do you shop for your insurance? |
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livetohike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. "how it is gamed" |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
37. Also, aren't there "provider write offs" which allow the doctors to "write off" the amount not |
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dugaresa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. to be honest they can't really write off that amount because |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Thanks for responding - also, where does "reasonable and customary" come into play? |
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dugaresa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I just put a call into a friend who works at a doctor's office |
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dugaresa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. I also want to add that many physicians get capitation payments |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
38. One more thing - for people that don't have insurance...the rates are negotiable... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
43. Her employer is convincing her she will lose her job |
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