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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 03:56 PM
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When exactly did our reps stop reading bills
that are in the hopper?

Whether you support a bill or oppose it, seems to me you ought to at the very least READ THE BILL. That's what you, as a representative, get paid for after all.

I want to know, when did this practice begin?

And how idiotic is it to debate about something you haven't read yet?!?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 03:57 PM
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1. Hey, American workers are lazy and stupid... don't confirm the rumor by using our elected officials
:rofl:
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 03:59 PM
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2. It's moronic
:P
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 04:01 PM
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3. I'm more curious about when they *started*.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 05:44 PM
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17. You beat me to it.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 04:04 PM
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4. What I don't understand is, with the internet and a host of volunteers available. . .
why don't elected officials have someone read through the bills and -- at the least -- highlight the passages that may be problematic.

No one has time or even the desire to read through all the bills introduced in a session, but it doesn't seem unreasonable to divide the task among a group of trusted advisers and volunteers and at least get substantive feedback on each of the proposals.

This is why I like the idea of posting to the internet every bill under consideration. Let the public have a chance to review everything and I'm certain our elected representatives will have every questionable paragraph brought to their attention.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 04:20 PM
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I support this idea also
posting to the internet every bill under consideration. Let the public have a chance to review everything ...

I'm all for that. And it could be that members of the public doing their due diligence on these bills will force the congress folks to read the bills just to sound competent from their end of the conversation.

I can hope, anyway.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 04:39 PM
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12. Every bill is on the internet.
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 04:06 PM
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5. Their corporate donors tell them what to vote for so it doesn't matter?
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Lagomorph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 04:12 PM
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6. I don't think they ever started.
They read the cliff notes, but the Devil is in the details. They're too busy building their portfolios with insider trading.

How many times have we seen the government complain about "unforeseen circumstances?"
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 04:12 PM
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7. I thought bill reading was what their large taxpayer-paid staffs were supposed to do. nt
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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 04:13 PM
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8. They 'Outsource' it..
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 04:14 PM
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9. They are big picture people, doncha know
Who writes them? Maybe they are the people the media should interview.

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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 04:14 PM
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10. the same time they stopped writing them
and allowed the lobbyists to do it for them
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 04:20 PM
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11. Probably about the time the sheer volume of legislation,
proclamations, and constituent pleas for help forced them to hare staff.

I know what I'd do if my staff were charged to read a bill that contained the phrase "great white hope" and didn't warn me about it.

I'd be looking for better staff.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 05:07 PM
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13. It's the concentration of power
into ever fewer hands... and they don't even give a shit how they wield that power as long as they have it. The contempt is breathtaking.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 05:09 PM
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14. That's what their aides are for
This is just a dumb right wing talking point.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 05:22 PM
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15. I think around 1774. But I could be wrong.
It might have been earlier. ;-)
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 05:42 PM
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16. Right about the time...
...they started writing 1000+ page bills filled with special provisions, exceptions, and wrinkles that their corporate masters could take full advantage of while the rest of us are left wondering what the stinking thing says in the first place.
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