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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 07:51 PM Original message |
Principal, teacher say JROTC student lied about a Muslim student. |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. Anyone else here like I am? Lovin' it when liars get caught. |
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George II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
50. Thanks for that reminder....the best bumper sticker I saw during the last campaign... |
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katanalori (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
2. It is ALL wrong (on "Heather's part) |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Agree, but actually she was suspended for bullying and harassment. |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. quite correct!! In a 1943 case involving Jehovah Witness children - the U.S. Supreme Court |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Just picture her being in Iraq or Afghanistan after she enlists... |
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Oeditpus Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. My favorite quote came from that case |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Ah that salute was also modified after the end of the war |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #18 |
34. yes, I suppose that went out of fashion for some reason |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:04 AM Response to Reply #18 |
40. i don't know where that was taken, but I just called my 80 year old mom: hand over heart 1935. |
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Oeditpus Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. Wiki sez: |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. Thanks. I found a similar Time article, but got distracted. Mom says she only remembers hand/heart. |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #18 |
43. Well, here's some support for the photo |
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renate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #43 |
64. OT, but how cool to find a 1940 article online! |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #64 |
78. These are wonderful times we live in. Of course, in the wrong hands.... |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:00 AM Response to Reply #9 |
38. I got sent to the Principal in 1972 for not standing during the pledge. |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #2 |
37. Telling her she should stand is OK. |
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subcomhd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #37 |
51. telling her to stand when she actually stood doesn't seem ok. |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Actually, it's OK to say things other people think are offensive. |
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subcomhd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Schools have very strict rules on bullying. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #58 |
87. You are wrong here. |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 09:57 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Harassment only comes in a few forms. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #58 |
108. That is so fucking stupid. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #37 |
106. No, it isn't. I stopped "pledging" in High School. No one even noticed. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #37 |
113. What the hell would be "more American" than wearing clothing that honors her faith? |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
73. Agree but what I got from the |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
3. I wonder where she learned these attitudes. |
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snort (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
47. Notice that in the background is the |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
5. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. It's JROTC. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 10:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. This retired Master Chief (USN) would not want her even as an enlisted |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. She's not enlisted material either |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
67. If she manages to enlist ... |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 09:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
86. agreed! |
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Downtown Hound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
6. Dumb little Nazi Youth girl. n/t |
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Alenne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
7. This is why there are bullies. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Her parents probably think they did a great job raising her |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
12. You really should read some of the comments about it. |
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Dramarama (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. There have been some disg. comments |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. I wonder why they think bullying a young Muslim girl and lying about her is heroic and |
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George II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #12 |
79. Obviously those who commented on the suspension didn't read any of the articles describing it... |
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GodlyDemocrat (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
13. Let it go ... this is a local high school issue, not a national media issue |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Gotta disagree with that one |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I very much disagree with you. This young lady is heading to the Mideast. |
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ChadwickHenryWard (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
71. I wonder if she understands what she did wrong. |
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George II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 05:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
81. With any luck, she won't be heading off to the Mideast. Being suspended, even for 3 days..... |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. "...just for speech with no foul language.." |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. It is an offensive statement that fails to recognize bigotry. |
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George II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 05:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
82. Correct........how would one judge these two statements*: |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. I'd call racism foul. YMMV. |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. Harassing another student, furthermore, under false pretenses...... |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 12:10 AM Response to Reply #13 |
28. It's heart-warming that most of us disagree with you. |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 12:45 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. that makes me happy too |
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George II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 05:45 PM Response to Reply #31 |
83. Yes it is hearwarmng that they are a small minority here on DU... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 12:13 AM Response to Reply #13 |
29. Fuck that shit. |
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chasitynola (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
56. Fucking-A |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 12:21 AM Response to Reply #13 |
30. Not Very Godly Of You GD !!! |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 02:37 AM Response to Reply #13 |
33. 'Speech without foul language..' |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #13 |
35. What About the JROTC Program? |
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ret5hd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #13 |
36. You get better with every post!!! |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:16 AM Response to Reply #13 |
41. Nice to see you right-wing Xtians sticking together. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #13 |
44. Wow |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
53. Bullying someone is not psychologically healthy or needed. |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
68. I agree, as suspension is not a good punishment. Not fitting at all. |
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BlueMTexpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. Just saw your reply after posting mine below ... |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 03:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
69. Sorry, dude, as your own RWers have put it in the past so well, |
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BlueMTexpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
75. "Take that thing off your head" (referring to the hijab, in this case a symbol of |
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George II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #13 |
80. Interesting thoughts.....but it ran deeper than that and it wasn't merely "lying".. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #13 |
107. She should have been expelled. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
20. Color me shocked. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
23. Where do you think the kid learned this crap? |
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bumblebee1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 02:22 AM Response to Original message |
32. THe coup de grace of all this would be: |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
39. When I was in JROTC, such an act would result in expulsion from the program |
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carlyhippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
91. In my kid's JROTC program this would have not been tolerated |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
42. Muslims are not evil. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
45. Deleted sub-thread |
Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
46. Look how their house is decorated - these are clearly racist republican ignorant triumphalist trash |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
48. Here is an ugly example of what she unleashed. |
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George II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
49. Good for the school administration and principal.... |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
54. did they do away with the jrotc honour code? |
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Libertas1776 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
55. This |
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chasitynola (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
57. Once again, madfloridian |
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Althaia (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
61. My school district has a sizeable percentage of muslim Somali immigrants. |
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maxintexas (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
62. I second that... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Hi Max... |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
63. I get the feeling that Eric Prince will be recruiting her for his outfit. This |
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seattle_blue (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
65. These people kill me. |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
70. I applaud the teacher & principal that got to the truth of this matter. The |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Yes,I am proud of the principal for standing up firmly. |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
72. a few years from now, she'll be one of Fox News' regular commentators... |
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PA Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
77. Here is a comment from the St. Pete Times article supporting the little liar: |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:03 PM Response to Reply #77 |
90. So only educated people are entitled to an opinion? |
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PA Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 05:48 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. No, Larry is entitled to his opinion, and I am entitled to criticize that opinion. |
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GrantDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
84. From the comments... |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:01 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. headscarves, curtain, cover, veil, whatever |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 06:12 AM Response to Reply #89 |
93. I admire your courage and consistency |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #93 |
95. The ACLU and I agree on a lot, not every case, but most by far. |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #95 |
99. If this had been a young teenage orthodox Jewish child who was bullied would you have a problem |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #99 |
100. When I was in high school, a yarmulke meant you were a dork. |
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PSzymeczek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 05:34 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Mennonite high school girls |
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GrantDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 09:32 AM Response to Reply #89 |
94. It is however... |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 09:46 AM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Since when? |
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GrantDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Noamnety is correct |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 12:59 AM Response to Reply #98 |
102. I am consistent in my defense of speech. |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 01:29 AM Response to Reply #102 |
103. bullying children because of their ethnic/religious background is hardly a free speech issue |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #103 |
104. This isn't students mouthing off to teachers. It's between equals. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #89 |
110. It's illegal for bigots to serve in the military |
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TlalocW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
85. First, meet the future Lynndie England if she gets in |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 09:43 AM Response to Reply #85 |
96. "Dull stare of a guernsey cow." |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #85 |
109. +1 with a LOL. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
105. And THESE people cry about indoctrination from Obama's speech? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #105 |
111. Yes, basically the same who don't want the president speaking to their kids |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
112. "You take that cross off your neck and act like you're proud to be American" |
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