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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 11:41 PM
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Help! SUBSTANTIVE Response Needed to Healthcare E-mail!
A friend forwarded the e-mail below. Does anyone know of a well-drafted, authoritative, SUBSTANTIVE response to these arguments? Preferably from a source that independents would recognize as reasonably unbiased?

Here's the e-mail:


Please do not delete this without reading it and PASSING IT ON.

Michael Connelly (http://michaelconnelly.viviti.com/ ) is a
Constitutional Lawyer and has read the entire health care bill and has
some comments, not about the bill, but about the effects on our
Constitution. It's a broader picture than just health care reform.

All of you and those to whom you communicate had better sit up and pay attention; once this sort of thing happens, it will be irreversible.

http://michaelconnelly.viviti.com/

Take a look and let me know what you think.

The blog will concentrate of my concerns as a retired attorney about the imminent and growing threats to our Constitution and our form of
government. We have reason to be very afraid of what is happening.

THE TRUTH ABOUT THE HEALTHCARE BILLS ?

Well, I have done it! I have read the entire text of proposed House Bill 3200: The Affordable Health Care Choices Act of 2009. I studied it with particular emphasis from my area of expertise, constitutional law. I was frankly concerned that parts of the proposed law that were being discussed might be unconstitutional. What I found was far worse than what I had heard or expected.

To begin with, much of what has been said about the law and
its implications is in fact true, despite what the Democrats and the
media are saying. The law does provide for rationing of health care,
particularly where senior citizens and other classes of citizens are
involved, free health care for illegal immigrants, free abortion
services, and probably forced participation in abortions by members of
the medical profession.
The Bill will also eventually force private insurance
companies out of business and put everyone into a government run system. All decisions about personal health care will ultimately be made by federal bureaucrats and most of them will not be health care
professionals. Hospital admissions, payments to physicians, and
allocations of necessary medical devices will be strictly controlled.

However, as scary as all of that it, it just scratches the surface. In fact, I have concluded that this legislation really has no intention of providing affordable health care choices. Instead it is a convenient cover for the most massive transfer of power to the Executive Branch of government that has ever occurred, or even been contemplated. If this law or a similar one is adopted, major portions of the Constitution of the United States will effectively have been destroyed.

The first thing to go will be the masterfully crafted balance of power between the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of the
U.S. Government. The Congress will be transferring to the Obama
Administration authority in a number of different areas over the lives of
the American people and the businesses they own. The irony is that the
Congress doesn't have any authority to legislate in most of those areas
to begin with. I defy anyone to read the text of the U.S. Constitution
and find any authority granted to the members of Congress to regulate
health care.

This legislation also provides for access by the appointees of
the Obama administration of all of your personal healthcare information,
your personal financial information, and the information of your
employer, physician, and hospital. All of this is a direct violation of
the specific provisions of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution
protecting against unreasonable searches and seizures. You can also
forget about the right to privacy. That will have been legislated into
oblivion regardless of what the 3rd and 4th Amendments may provide.

If you decide not to have healthcare insurance or if you have
private insurance that is not deemed "acceptable" to the "Health Choices Administrator" appointed by Obama there will be a tax imposed on you. It is called a "tax" instead of a fine because of the intent to avoid application of the due process clause of the 5th Amendment. However, that doesn't work because since there is nothing in the law that allows you to contest or appeal the imposition of the tax, it is definitely depriving someone of property without the "due process of law.

So, there are three of those pesky amendments that the far left hate so much out of the original ten in the Bill of Rights that are effectively nullified by this law. It doesn't stop there though. The 9th Amendment that provides: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain
rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by
the people;" The 10th Amendment states: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are preserved to the States respectively, or to the people." Under the provisions of this piece of Congressional handiwork neither the people nor the states are going to have any rights or powers at all in many areas that once were theirs to control.
I could write many more pages about this legislation, but I think you get the idea. This is not about health care; it is about seizing power and limiting rights. Article 6 of the Constitution requires the members of both houses of Congress to "be bound by oath or affirmation" to support the Constitution. If I was a member of Congress I would not be able to vote for this legislation or anything like it without feeling I was violating that sacred oath or affirmation. If I voted for it anyway I would hope the American people would hold me accountable.
For those who might doubt the nature of this threat I suggest they consult the source. Here is a link to the Constitution: http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html

And another to the Bill of Rights:
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html

There you can see exactly what we are about to have taken from us.

Michael Connelly

Retired attorney,

Constitutional Law Instructor

Carrollton, Texas
mrobertc@hotmail.com<http://us.mc571.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mrobertc@hotmail.com>


Michael Connelly
Author of "The Mortarmen"
www.trafford.com/04-2710<http://www.trafford.com/04-2710>
and "Riders in the Sky: The Ghosts and Legends of Philmont Scout Ranch"
I also teach law courses via the Internet through colleges and
universities worldwide. To find a college or university near you, go to
Education To Go's website at
www.ed2go.com<http://www.ed2go.com/
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 11:46 PM
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1. I received the same BS email a few days ago. Check this link.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 11:46 PM
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2. check here, if not, submit your email
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 11:56 PM
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3. Go to that guy's website,
and check out his resume.

He's a licensed lawyer, all right, but it appears he's never exactly practiced, except for a time with a real estate firm.

The "Of Counsel to U. S. Justice Foundation" gig is really interesting - google the Foundation, and you'll know all you need to know about this jerk.

He's teaching an online course, some kind of law thing, which isn't exactly explained. Nonsense.

He's not worth answering, my friend. Save your energy and do something worthwhile with your time.

And don't take this crap seriously. Just delete and move on....................................
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 12:01 AM
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4. Wow, it's like one-stop shopping for health care lies and fear-mongering
From killing your grandma to annulment of the Constitution.

Impressive.
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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 01:01 AM
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5.  Here is one.
http://factcheck.org/2009/08/twenty-six-lies-about-hr-3200/

Plus page 143, line 3 , section 246 States that No undocumented aliens will be provided health care"

Federal money to pay for abortions is already banned and that won't change.

The pukes know this full well, so they are outright lying.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 01:23 AM
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6. This guy is a pretty poor constitutional scholar...
if he's never heard of the general welfare or interstate commerce clauses that form the basis of nearly our entire regulatory structure.

I also find it ironic that he provides us links to his website, and the constitution, but not the bill in question. Why should anyone believe what he has to say if he can't even reference it?
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