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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:28 AM
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Politico Says WH Will Throw Obama’s Credibility and Party Under the Bus
I think they've jumped the shark with this one. I hope their credibility takes a hugh! hit.


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Politico Says WH Will Throw Obama’s Credibility and Party Under the Bus
By: Scarecrow Tuesday September 1, 2009 11:29 pm

snip//

Remember, this is Mike Allen and Jim VandeHei, so before the shooting starts, let's just ask whether such a strategy makes sense.

The polls have been showing not simply an erosion in the President's approval numbers but a decline in support from the liberal base of his own party. Politico says "some" in the White House are looking for an opportunity to make that worse.

There's also been a further decline in the public's understanding of and support for what they believe to be the basic elements of health care reform, and a rapid increase in those who believe outrageous lies about the reform proposals. A major exception has been the public's apparent grasp and strong support for the idea that if consumers are required to purchase health insurance, they want to have the right to choose between a public health insurance option and private insurance plans. It's not just a concept the public can easily grasp and support; the CBO thinks it probably reduce costs and save tax dollars when that seems to be a big concern.

So we have a White House grasping for a clear, understandable message that it can sell, reportedly thinking about throwing out the one clear idea people get and approve by overwhelming numbers. And further, "some" in the White House who have been fighting hard against the Republican lies and media misrepresentations.

Next we have the fact the President has, for more than a year, explained to the American people, and assured his own supporters, that a viable public option was his preferred way to confront the private insurers with a competitive alternative that would serve to keep them honest, thus reenforcing the goal of proposed regulations to ban coverage denials based on prior conditions, curtail rescissions, and limit excessive rate discrimination.

But the Politico boys claim that "some administration officials" think that it would be good for the President to discard this element, betray his followers, and undermine his credibility at precisely the moment when his credibility needs shoring up.

Thus Politico wants us to believe that there are "some Administration officials," all of them anonymous, who are actively seeking to destroy the President's credibility, turn off Democrats, weaken health reform, remove the one feature with extremely high public approval and do all this because . . . because John McCain taunted Obama last year that he can't stand up to his own Party? How about standing up to McCain, and Grassley, and Steele, and the rest of the crazies?

Apparently Mike Allen and Jim VandeHei think the President of the United States is stupid.


And does the President know that "some" anonymous officials in his own White House are actively trying to undermine his agenda, his Party, and support for his Presidency? Because if that's really happening, "some" people should be fired.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:34 AM
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1. The headline is over the top, isn't it? nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:44 AM
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10. No, not really. politico is always over the top imo. nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:46 AM
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13. Yes, it's run by total tools. I agree. Mike Allen - ugh! nt
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:34 AM
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2. Well Obama certainly has not lessoned my concerns
As every day goes by I have less and less faith that the right thing will happen.I feel as if the rug is going to be pulled out from under me at any moment. Why do I feel this way? We won. I should be feeling nothing but relief and joy, but that is not the case. Why has Obama abandoned us in this fashion?
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:35 AM
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3. As you so clearly point out - reflect on the source.
and your conclusion is right on the money, if the allegations are true find them and fire them.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:35 AM
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4. i just finished reading the same sort of crap at hillary is 44
it really is a shame people still think politico is a valid source of information.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:39 AM
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6. The Puma's and trolls have been spreading that link like wildfire. n/t
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:46 AM
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12. +1
geez, is h44 still around? blech
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:38 AM
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5. The media attempted to declare the public option dead, again...
Edited on Wed Sep-02-09 08:40 AM by backscatter712
Here's how it works. An "anonymous White House source" (read "pulled out of someone's ass") is quoted by corporate shills in the MSM that Obama might let the public option slide. The rest of the media starts buzzing over this rumor, adding to it and hyping it out of control. The bloggers scream "OBAMA SOLD US OUT!!!" Conservadems like Kent Conrad solemnly proclaim on the bobblehead shows "We don't have the votes for a public option, but do try my co-ops!" The MSM continues for several news cycles on their eulogy for the public option. The insurance companies, Blue Dogs & GOP all high-five each other and start popping the champagne corks.

Then the netroots shout out "NO PUBLIC OPTION, NO DEAL!" Nancy Pelosi and the progressive caucus come out saying that their bill WILL have a public option, and several progressive Senators shout out for the public option. It again becomes clear that contrary to the media's howling, the public option is very much alive, and the day is coming closer that reconciliation will be used to shove it through.

At least now there are more signs that people aren't believing the bullshit this time around.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:44 AM
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9. You nailed it!
:toast:
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:39 AM
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7. Can We Throw Politico Under the Bus?

Followed by the expression itself. Don't know where it came from, don't care, tired as heck of hearing it. It's also sort of gruesome when you think about it.

P.S., Politico is Internet toilet tissue.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:02 AM
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17. "throw xxx under the bus..."
has "jumped the shark".
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:40 AM
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8. Those administration officials being quoted may be from....
the previous administration. Doesn't say that they are currently working in the White House, does it?
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:09 AM
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21. yeah
After all, whenever we hear anything about our VP, it's almost always about our FORMER VP Dick Cheney!
:eyes:
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:45 AM
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11. You can bet your bottom dollar --- if we could trace this back we
we would find the DLC.

They are dying for Obama to Sista Solja the Liberals.

Faux is always commenting when is Obama going to separate
himself from the Left like Pres Clinton. In other words
kick the Left under the bus.

I just hope Obama has more character than Politico attributes
to him.

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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:08 AM
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20. I don't think there is an "anonymous source"
But I also know there is someone in the WH not on the side of the public option or any other progressive policy.


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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:47 AM
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14. Politico - Drudge with manners, a nice suit, and a clean shave.
But right wing assholes, none the less.

Fuck Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen with a dried Indian corncob.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:49 AM
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15. I guess it's getting harder for the Politico
...to win the day.

Tabloidy.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:59 AM
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16. And FDL reinforces the Politico junk by simultaneously believing it.
I honestly don't get that site.
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 10:03 AM
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23. Good Call

Me neither. Seems like Jane Hamsher just waits for the latest edition of Politico and then immediately runs out a reactive blast accusing Obama of selling out (for the 36th time). Maybe she's trying to use the right-wing media to further her own agenda?
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:06 AM
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18. Gawd! I hope (and pray) that he isn't planning on something like THAT!
Edited on Wed Sep-02-09 09:11 AM by Proud Liberal Dem
I can't think of anything more suicidal and self-destructive politically than him actually doing what Politico says "some administration official" are talking about here. What the hell might doing something like that accomplish?! If he IS planning on doing something like that, is he also planning on changing his party affiliation to Republican too? Assuming that Politico isn't just yanking our chain as usual and that the story has legs, I hope those "administration officials", whomever they are, are sent packing by the end of the day today (and that the door DOES hit their a**es on the way out).
However, despite all of the cynicism many people express here on a daily basis about President Obama, the idea of him possibly being willing (eager?) to shove a white hot poker in the eye of liberals/progressives by, presumably, gutting HCR of its most important component IMHO, and ensure a terrible backlash at the polls in 2010 and probably in 2012 all because of John McCain's taunts about him "not standing up to his party" (which he HAS actually done since he's been POTUS) strains all credulity to me.

I think that, for right now, I'm going to file this under the :wtf: category for right now.

I just can't possibly believe that President Obama would be THAT dumb, particularly since he doesn't have to deal with a Republican Congress like Clinton did post-1994. I call BS on this right now.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:07 AM
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19. So when Marc Ambinder reports sources say Obama is "angostic" on the public option...
...is he also throwing Obama under the bus?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:24 AM
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22. a lot of bloggers are desperate to sound "in the know" and also to say whatever gets readers.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 11:14 AM
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24. it appears as if politico's stupid machine is working overtime. nt
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