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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:26 AM
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The Truth Of Iraq's City Of Deformed Babies
Source: Sky News

The Truth Of Iraq's City Of Deformed Babies

8:48am UK, Tuesday September 01, 2009

Lisa Holland, foreign affairs correspondent

An Iraqi doctor has told Sky News the number of babies born with deformities in the heavily-bombed area of Fallujah is still on the increase.

....................

People want an independent investigation into the impact of the kinds of weapons used - including controversial white phosphorus.

Yet even since we first started to give a voice to the calls for help from the people of Fallujah things seem to have got worse.

Dr Ahmed Uraibi, a specialist paediatrician in Fallujah, told us that the number of deformities he has dealt with has increased in the last year.

The people of Fallujah want to know how many more deformed babies there will be before someone sits up and takes notice of them.



Read more: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Sky-News-Returns-To-Fallujah-Lisa-Holland-Revisits-The-Children-Born-With-Deformities/Article/200908415371946?f=rss
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:52 AM
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1. Why exactly did we go to war with Iraq? Deformed babies, dead soldiers, dead civilians, and
untold environmental destruction for what purpose and gain?

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:56 AM
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2. for oil men and women who have power in our government
Edited on Wed Sep-02-09 08:57 AM by fascisthunter
for sociopaths to enrich themselves.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:12 AM
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3. depleted uranium?
:(
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 10:04 AM
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4. Yes.
Delpeted uranium is going to be the Agent Orange of the 21st century.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:55 AM
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7. Possibly.
Edited on Thu Sep-03-09 09:56 AM by Igel
However, consider Figure 1 at http://www.consang.net/index.php/Summary#Figure_1 .

No records were kept under Saddam, and there's a strong resistance to saying that consanguineous marriages are bad. It's an important cultural trait, and defects are invariably the woman's fault--not the man's, not the custom's.

Such marriages are very common in some parts of the world, and yield a wide variety of birth defects. We make fun of cousins marrying cousins in Appalachia. Sorry, but marriage practices in parts of the Mid-East and SW Asia make Appalachians look positively ultra-progressive.

The map probably overstates the prevalence in Iraq, but at the same time shows that it's uniform over the territory. It's not. It's probably most concentrated in the Sunni portions.

The reason that you get more birth defects with consanguineous marriages is that often "normality" depends on having at least one working copy of a gene, and consanguineity serves to increase the number of babies with two defective genes.

It's impossible to judge any increase or decrease in birth defects over the last decade--all you get is anecdotal information, and the existence of such babies is often denied. It's a dishonor to bear such a kid. Now, that's all well and good, but it has a problem: First, there's a handy excuse, the Americans, so such babies can be more readily admitted. Second, anything to make the Americans look bad is good. In other words, there are two good excuses for "memories" to be wrong in a way that would yield the same outcome as a real significant increase in birth defects. So do we trust anecdotal information? Eh.

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if there was an increase over the short term, however. I have three reasons for this. First, there were chemicals--DU among them, in all likelihood--used. Second, there were dietary deficiencies in recent years caused by, well, war-time deprivation. Third, in times of conflict you trust your own tribe more and are less interested in forging inter-tribe bonds than in reinforcing intra-tribe and intra-clan bonds. In other words, I'd expect that there were more consanguineous marriages in recent years (forced marriages by militans aside) than in the decade before.

However, it lacks the simplicity of saying, "It's our fault! Well, not *mine*, but it's the fault of my political enemies, and serves to make me more outstandingly good and them more evil." As I said, in wartime you tend to want to strengthen not inter-tribal but intra-tribal bonds.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 10:11 AM
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5. nuke poison is forever - the women living there are probably tainted


forever and thus their babies too.

we americans are to blame for this - forever.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:57 AM
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8. Its a shame that we let a few do so much wrong to so many
In that I don't recognize this country anymore
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 02:28 PM
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6. Forgive us, Father, for we have sinned. It's been almost four centuries since our last confession.
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