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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 09:43 AM Original message |
Theory shows Public Option is better than EITHER no Public Option OR Single Payer-Pareto Optimality |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
1. "Pareto Optimality" = apologia for greed and RW economic policies |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 09:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Your "expert" comment on things economic is noted |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Your argument is predicated on an appeal to rightwing economic authority |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
2. Single payer would be the easiest to implement. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. No, it wouldn't -- that's the point |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:08 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. If all the single-payer advocates would study the history of these plans |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. It's sad. Scratch the surface of their arguments ... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
5. Aaaargh. Now we get to see ignorant people make a mockery of another intellectual concept. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:06 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. LOL |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Taking the day off, so pretty good, actually. Ran out of smokes though... grrrr. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:07 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. LOL. It's the "science" of rightwing economics! Respect it without question! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:09 AM Response to Reply #9 |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Nope. But as I said in my #1: "'Pareto Optimality' = apologia for greed and RW economic policies" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:14 AM Response to Reply #11 |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. And it begins. DUers saying mathematics is right-wing. (mathematician sighs)... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:20 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Er, you're confused. "Pareto efficiency" isn't a mathematical concept. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Sorry. It's just math.... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Um, no, it's not "just math". What a bizarre misapprehension. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. And American idiocy marches happily on. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Love how you can't articulate a point. nt |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. There's nothing to articulate... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. The idea that this metric has validity is itself a value judgment. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. "Science" doesn't "want" anything. People do. Durr. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. "science wants the rich to get richer" "accounting is right wing" |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Just Americans fighting as hard as possible to be as stupid as they can be. |
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donquijoterocket (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. threads |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. hahahaha! |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. As this subthread demonstrates, there are severe limits to the efficaciousness of arguing ... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Yep. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
8. They need to just make Medicare the Public Option and be done with it. |
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