Kucinich - 'Kip Sullivan has figured out the real story' - Bait and Switch author...

[slipslidingaway]

Articles are linked at the end of the OP, long and worth the read IMO.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20090903_dont_be_fooled_by_the_public_option/?ln

"....The fight over the public option has occupied much of the media coverage, but left unsaid is the fact that weeks of behind-the-scenes negotiations have weakened the public option proposal to the point that it is hardly an option at all.

I discussed the matter with Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio. Kucinich favors universal health insurance coverage, not the public option. So do I.

A health care reform bill was approved by the House Energy and Commerce Committee in July. Kucinich said that a final version—the real bill—is now being rewritten and will be presented to committee chairs and other leaders, who will bring the revised version to the House floor. “It’s happening now,” he said. “It’s being done by the leadership, and we don’t know what’s going on.”

Kucinich is the author of an amendment to the House bill that would ease federal barriers to states wanting to enact universal care plans of their own. Legislators are engaged in such efforts in California, Colorado, Illinois, Minnesota, Montana, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Washington. He told me it “was one of the few provisions in a badly flawed bill that could provide benefits.”

Kucinich suggested I read articles written by health insurance expert Kip Sullivan on the Web site of Physicians for a National Health Program, which advocates government-run universal health care. Sullivan, he said, has figured out the real story..."


http://pnhp.org/blog/2009/07/20/bait-and-switch-how-the-%E2%80%9Cpublic-option%E2%80%9D-was-sold/

http://pnhp.org/blog/2009/08/08/reply-to-critics-of-%E2%80%9Cbait-and-switch-how-the-%E2%80%98public-option%E2%80%99-was-sold%E2%80%9D/

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

1. Wow, Kucinich has no idea what's going on.

Why am I not surprised?

[peace13]

2. Way to bash a Dem!

Pardon me but ....bug off!

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

7. I'm sorry that I have insulted your idol.

But I've been putting up with his insults for years, as has every mainstream Democrat, and I'm sick of his bullshit.

[Libertas1776]

3. Pray tell,

how does Kucinich have no idea what is going on, exactly?

[slipslidingaway]

4. Enlighten us as to why Kucinich has no idea of what is going on...

THE HISTORY OF THE PUBLIC OPTION...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6456383&mesg_id=6456383

Selling the public option...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6289091&mesg_id=6289091

Is the goal of the "uniquely American solution" to keep the private health care companies in business and protect their profits? It is not just the Democrats that are using the phrase, Karen Ignagni of AHIP wrote an article in April...

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

5. Because he's a fucking asshat and nobody in the leadership gives two shits about his pointless...

...tiring, whiny attempts at having an actual opinion on anything.

[slipslidingaway]

8. Very enlightening...but not about Kucinich. The groups that were

swayed by the original public option idea have not told us that it has been so watered down that it will no longer provide real competition to the insurance companies.

The Dem leadership also could have cared less about his warnings on the Iraq war, the Patriot Act, China trade and other Minor issues.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

10. Do you require some type of remedial education...

...for writing in the English that it down it a language what it of a thing?

[slipslidingaway]

11. Thanks for kicking the thread :) n/t

[ThomCat]

9. How does your rant show in any way that Kucinich doesn't know

what he's talking about? All you have shown is that you hate Kucinich, and that you can't be bothered to listen to what he has to say. The mainstream media tells you not to take him seriously and you buy into it hook line and sinker.

I'm glad his constituents know better than you do.

[G_j]

12. at first I thought you were talking about yourself

tiring, whiny attempts at having an actual opinion on anything

[rudy23]

13. Ah! "Whiny", nasty ad hominem, AND an attack on Dennis Kucinich! 3 POINTS!

An unassisted triple play!

[rudy23]

14. Sorry, 4 points. I forgot "derailing the argument." nt

[movonne]

6. Wow!!! (Ms. or Mr.) Palin...

[slipslidingaway]

15. Morning kick for Dennis n/t

[windoe]

16. I understand that the reform bill is in the process of being written

and it is unwise to comment on something before it has been decided. I can understand this--IN PROCESS.

It is totally unnecessary to attack Dennis Kucinich's character, in order to disagree with him. He is dedicated to doing his best to represent his constituency and defending our Constitution, and though this is actually his job, it is worthy of respect in these times.

[slipslidingaway]

17. Agreed...

"It is totally unnecessary to attack Dennis Kucinich's character, in order to disagree with him."

:thumbsup:

[G_j]

18. actually, I rely on Kucinich

I trust him to tell it straight, and for me, trust is rare indeed.

[slipslidingaway]

19. Until proven otherwise, I do as well :) n/t

[G_j]

20. true

he's not the messiah, but he talks the truth, and has more courage than most of the congress put together.

[slipslidingaway]

21. Also true "...more courage than most of the congress put together." n/t