Democrats are really pissing me off lately

[Tx4obama]

There are so many Democrats bashing President Obama lately over the health care reform bill that they've just downright pissed my off!

Anyone that listened closely to Obama when he was on the campaign trail would have heard him say OVER and OVER AGAIN things to the effect of:

Change will not come easy.
Change takes time.
I can not do all of this by myself it will take each and everyone of you to help.
It will take everyone from the bottom up to get things done and to change the way things are done in Washington.
Etc, etc, etc.

And now here we are at the first most difficult challenge and so many people are sitting back on their computers, griping and bashing Obama for what he has not yet accomplished - without even giving him some time to try to get things done.

It was decades before Truman's Medicare idea was signed into law by LBJ.

The Civil Rights Act was not signed into law over night.

Women did not obtain the right to vote without one hellasish fight.

It took a war to end slavery -- and even more time after that until everyone was free.

President Obama has been in office less than eight months and people are expecting him to pull miracles out of his ass!

Enough with the bashing - start putting your energy into doing something positive instead of spreading hopelessness, despair, and cynicism. If President Obama doesn't get the exact Health Care bill passed through the Congress that you have your heart set on then at least extend your thanks to him for at least trying to do so. That is more than than any Republican would ever do on this issue.

I hope everyone will sit back and try to put themselves in President Obama's shoes for a few minutes and think about it for a long time -- before they sit at their computers and type out anything negative that doesn't at all help the situation.

Goodnight and good luck to all.

Ciao!



Edited to add:

President Obama has 100's of things on his plate other than health care - you wouldn't know it by listening to the media every day.

No president is a 'one issue' president and President Obama should not be judged by only one issue.

Btw, over at Politifact.com on their Obameter of the 516 campaign promises that they are tracking -- so far President Obama has fulfilled at least 40 of his campaign promises and 88 have been rated 'in the works' http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter /

I am very proud of President Obama for what he has accomplished in the short time that he has been in the White House.

God Bless the Obama Family!
Obama 2012

[laughingliberal]

1. I am well aware of the challenge before the President

and do not want to be a naysayer. That said, I can not abide it if the bill that gets passed includes a mandate to purchase private insurance and no way to bring the premiums down. My husband and I had to let our insurance drop as the premiums were $1200 per month which constituted 1/4 of my salary (that is before I lost my job). As much as I hate to say it, the current legislation will hurt more than it will help if it does not include a more affordable option for those of us who do not have employer sponsored health insurance. I would love to get behind the President. I voted for him and am a lifelong, yellow dog Democrat. But I can't afford to be sold out to the corporate interests again. There is nothing left of me to sell.

[Tx4obama]

2. I don't have insurance --- BUT

I don't have insurance and can't afford it.
But if the public option doesn't make it into the final bill, then it won't be a reason for me not to vote for President Obama in 2012.

President Obama has 100's of things on his plate other than health care - you wouldn't know it by listening to the media every day.

No president is a 'one issue' president and President Obama should not be judged by only one issue.

Btw, over at Politifact.com on their Obameter of the 516 campaign promises that they are tracking -- so far President Obama has fulfilled at least 40 of his campaign promises and 88 have been rated 'in the works' http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/

I am very proud of President Obama for what he has accomplished in the short time that he has been in the White House.

God Bless the Obama Family!
Obama 2012

[Fumesucker]

3. What if a mandate to purchase private insurance makes it into the bill?

And a public option does not?

Where are you going to be then?

Out here in the cold with me, I suspect.

"I can envision a day when you will have to show proof of insurance at the job interview" -Hillary Clinton during the 2008 primaries

[laughingliberal]

6. Exactly!

We have become resigned to living without insurance for the first time in our lives and, if the worst that happens is that we still don't have any, I would learn to live with it. The problem is to be mandated to spend 1/4 of my income to buy it (if I should be able to return to work) or pay a fine and still not have insurance. There are worse things than no bill. And I fear it is coming straight at us.

[Tx4obama]

7. Sounds to me like you've been listening to the fear-mongerers. n/t

[Fumesucker]

11. You mean fearmongers like Hillary Clinton?

Who said she could envision a day when you would have to show proof of insurance at the job interview during the 2008 primary season?

[laughingliberal]

13. No, I've been reading the bills passed out of committee

They all contain an individual mandate. At this point, they contain an insurance exchange and a public option, too. But if they dump the public option we are left with a mandate and only the blood suckers to do business with.

[Tx4obama]

15. There is not final bill at the moment, so don't get your panties all in a knot. n/t

[kentuck]

4. It is not like this issue only sprang up when Obama became President...

We have been fighting for this for 60 years. This is not just a new found hobby.

[laughingliberal]

10. No, it's not new

I, personally, have been fighting it for 30 years. I have lived with the stagnating wages due to health care costs. I have lived with my work load as a nurse doubling to increase the for profit hospital industry's bottom line. I have lived without insurance for the past 8 months and have no hope of getting any for the next 12 years when I will be eligible for Medicare. But I am not willing to be mandated to purchase the outrageously expensive insurance from the blood sucking industry or pay a fine if I can't afford it. It really is public option or bust for me.

[Tx4obama]

12. Who told you that there would be a mandate?

Who told you that there would be a mandate?
Who said that if public option wasn't in the bill there would be a mandate?

President Obama has NEVER said anything like that at all.

I believe you are living with unnecessary self imposed fear.

[laughingliberal]

19. Ah, a good point

All I have to go on is what is written in the bills as of right now and the news reports that the Whitehouse is courting Olympia Snowe who favors a trigger but not including the public option from the outset. I do know all the proposals before the Senate Finance Committee's 'gang of six' and it is a huge giveaway to the industry and a hit on the working class. I hope my fear is unfounded but, really, we have had no clear message from the President on just what he would find unacceptable. I would be very happy to be proven wrong and see him come out fighting for the working class next week. I would be even happier to hear Rahm Emanuel is resigning to pursue other priorities. It is anxiety provoking to hear of his liberal bashing and telling the progressives to play nice with the Blue Dogs but no indication the Blue Dogs are encouraged to be cooperative. I realize this is all just a reading of the tea leaves. But I am a pretty educated reader of tea leaves.

[Tx4obama]

5. WOW

I try to post a positive motivational OP and someone UNrec's it.
Some people here on DU are assholes :)

[kentuck]

9. It wasn't I, Tx4obama.

You may get another simply because I commented on your post. :-)

[Fumesucker]

14. "Democrats are really pissing me off" is not "motivational" or "positive"..

Particularly when you are clearly speaking of rank and file Dems and not the politicians..

[Tx4obama]

16. Fumesucker

The title line was an attention getter,
the OP was what you should have read.
Headline only readers usually don't ever get the point that is offered.

[Fumesucker]

17. I read your OP

How else would I have known you were speaking of the rank and file rather than the politicians?

[Tx4obama]

18. Well then...

I will have to respectfully disagree with you then, because I truly think my OP was a positive post that was trying to help stop the negativity. I am sorry that you didn't see it as such.

[Fumesucker]

20. A lot of us think we are going to be sold down the river..

By the Democratic politicians.

And we have very good historical reasons for thinking that.

So you telling us you're pissed because we aren't looking through the same rose tinted Pollyanna glasses you are wearing doesn't come across as motivational.

[Mythsaje]

8. If he signs some piece of shit that doesn't help matters

and actually makes some things worse, he deserves all the shit we can throw. If he vetoes a piece of shit and says "okay, now try again," I'll cheer him.

This may not be the only thing he has to worry about, but it's definitely in the top two in importance.

[eridani]

21. Unfortunately, nobody is proposing to to anything useful until 2013

If the public option were to be buying into Medicare, it could start within a year, BEFORE election years 2010 and 2012.