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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:25 AM
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Todays 2 minute hate: outrage over a yet introduced health care bill
Edited on Fri Sep-04-09 10:51 AM by Javaman
that people assume will have no public option.

Call me crazy, but there still isn't a bill and getting angry over something that doesn't exist yet, is a mystery to me.

this is as bad as the repukes screeching and yelling about no socialist health care as if that was the only option.

Flame if you want, but me, I'm still waiting to see the actual bill before I expend any sort of rage.

Excuse me while I go scream at the clouds for blocking the sun.

On Edit: my point was, and it appears as if I failed, was the that people on here scream and yell about any rumor to the effect that "Obama has lied and bailed on the public health, blah blah blah", when in fact there is no evidence. The people who scream about this are just as bad as the people who scream: socialist!!!

so far, my understanding is that Obama hasn't thrown the public option under the bus, he has said himself that he will not sign any bill without it.

the right wing screech machine appears to be carefully orchestrating us into believing that Obama is ditching the public option.

So until I see a final bill, and one that, the progressives have stated they will not vote for if it has no public option, I'm not going to get bent out of shape. AND I have never ever said that no one should call or protest against a bill that doesn't have the public option.

My two minute hate is aimed at the people who enjoy going off half cocked on assumed information, propaganda from the right wing and those who seem to get off on the idea of hating something or someone for their own gains, insanity or stupidity.

that being said:

:popcorn:

carry on.

:popcorn:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:27 AM
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1. Fine, sit back and do nothing
but outrage now leads to contacting representatives, Senators, and the white house to give voice to that outrage and push a public option.

So your apologetics and failure to do this will allow us to blame you when there is no public option.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:30 AM
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4. reread my edited update. nt
Edited on Fri Sep-04-09 10:53 AM by Javaman
:popcorn:
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:49 AM
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6. So you only take action when you're outraged? That could explain why the pro-health care reform
folks are ignored.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:53 AM
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7. reread my edited update. nt
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:29 AM
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2. people don't know what to think or believe
I can't blame them, seeing how there are mixed messages coming from our reps and from the media itself. I am glad to see the outrage, because if there weren't an outrage, there may be no will for a public option at all.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:53 AM
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8. reread my edited update. nt
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:30 AM
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3. Would that such unmerited sanguinitude were merited by recent history on other issues
"Sanquinitude" is a made up word, but I will be you know what it means.

As to the point ....... we have seen very little of the big promises made being fulfilled. As but one example: a brigade a month.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:54 AM
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10. reread my edited update. nt
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:31 AM
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5. So what's your plan when this mythical bill has no public option?
Edited on Fri Sep-04-09 10:32 AM by jgraz
Oh right... put up another post saying it's too late now and we need to support our president. Gotcha.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:53 AM
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9. lol
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:54 AM
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11. reread my edited update. nt
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 11:00 AM
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13. Sorry, it still doesn't make sense
There's plenty of evidence that Obama is jettisoning the public option, including on-the-record quotes from his chief of staff. If you choose to ignore that evidence, you're in for a pretty rude awakening next week.


Here's a good breakdown of the latest from the White House.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUqAB-BfCNQ

Still think Obama is going to insist on the public option? Cuz if he is, he's sure doing a piss-poor job of leading us there.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 11:32 AM
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18. ...
Edited on Fri Sep-04-09 11:32 AM by Javaman
:popcorn:

thanks for making my point.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 11:37 AM
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19. DU Translation: "thanks for making my point"
=

"You just shot down my argument and I have no reply, so I'm going to pretend I won and hope nobody notices"


Though the popcorn was a nice touch.

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 11:46 AM
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20. ...
thanks for continuing to make my point.

:popcorn:
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:55 AM
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12. I have not heard the President say he will not sign a bill without a public option
I would like to hear that but he has carefully avoided saying that.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 11:03 AM
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15. And even that won't be quite enough... he needs to be specific
Otherwise, they can call any steaming dog turd a public option.

Of course, he's doing neither. :banghead:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 11:02 AM
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14. lol
that's what happens when there IS no clear bill to debate and the whole healthcare issue looks like a fucking circus act
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 11:19 AM
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16. On the nose. nt
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 11:21 AM
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17. Some people never get tired of being played by the M$M.
You'd think they'd have learned by now, yet they just keep on sucking it down.
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