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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 11:36 AM
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Glenn Greenwald knocks David Broder on his ass
Edited on Fri Sep-04-09 12:12 PM by KelleyKramer
I'm really starting to like this guy. His nickname is Glennzilla, and I have my own favorite saying about him, especially for the Broder and Joe Klein types ..... "Never fuck with the Zilla!"

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/


In one of the most drearily predictable media developments ever, David Broder today -- yet again -- joins in with an endless string of establishment pundits to demand that there be no investigations by the DOJ of war crimes and other felonies committed by the Bush administration. The one silver lining from all of this is that it has clarified a crucial political fact: most establishment "journalists" don't believe in the rule of law for political elites -- period. They believe high political officials should be able to break the law -- commit felonies -- and be immunized from legal consequences. To any reasonable observer, that is simply no longer in doubt. Opposition to investigations -- especially for the real culprits as opposed to low-level interrogators -- is as close to a unanimous media view as something can be (though the NYT Editorial Board today, standing virtually alone, calls for full criminal investigations, including of high-level Bush officials).

Broder claims he "agree's on the importance of accountability for illegal acts and for serious breaches of trust by government officials -- even at the highest levels." As examples of this "agreement," he cites this: "I had no problem with the impeachment proceedings against Richard Nixon, and I called for Bill Clinton to resign when he lied to his Cabinet colleagues and to the country during the Monica Lewinsky scandal." But he then goes on to boast that he supported Ford's pardon of Nixon. He thought the prosecution of Lewis Libby was "silliness." He simply believes that "the rule of law" is only for ordinary Americans, not for powerful political officials who commit felonies -- and in that, he's completely typical of the Beltway mindset. It's not an accident that he's the Dean of Washington Journalism; he is a perfect embodiment of that culture.

That media elites -- ostensibly devoted to accountability for the powerful -- fulfill the exact opposite role by demanding immunity for their lawbreaking is why elite lawlessness is so rampant. But that's well-established by now, so I want to focus on another point raised by this Broderian opposition: a completely self-serving falsehood that lies at the core of the debate over investigations. The standard claim made by investigation opponents in the media is that we all know that torture is abhorrent and that what was done is terribly wrong, but that prosecutions would just be too disruptive. Broder asks: "Ultimately, do we want to see Cheney, who backed these actions and still does, standing in the dock? . . . The cost to the country would simply be too great."

But it's simply not true that these journalists vehemently objected to torture as abhorrent but now merely believe prosecutions are an over-reaction. The reality is that they did not object to the torture regime as it was implemented. They did the opposite: they mocked those who objected to it and who tried to stop it as overheated, hysterical, fringe leftists -- as Broder did in a November, 2004 Op-Ed, deriding as "unhinged" those who were arguing "that 'the forces of darkness' are taking over the country."

more on the link, here-

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/

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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 11:45 AM
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1. He Is Quite Right, Sir
People like Broder understand their own dereliction will be exposed along with the crimes.
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:00 PM
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3. do you see strike out lines on last three graphs??

I think my puter is doing weird stuff
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:07 PM
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4. It's the [ s ] in the word agree[ s ]....
Edited on Fri Sep-04-09 12:07 PM by DeSwiss
...in the sentence that begins with:

"Broder claims he "agree< s > on the importance...."

the bracketed "s" tells DU's software to use strikeout until it sees a < /s >

Whenever I see this in an article I substitute ( ) for { } or < >

DeSwiss

on edit: spelling
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:13 PM
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5. Wow, thanks! ...

I never would have caught that, thanks!
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 11:48 AM
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2. As far as broder is concerned, if you have been in Washington for 30 years
and you are a republican, you are not responsible for anything you have fucked up, even if you have fucked up everything you have touched like Cheney.
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:20 PM
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6. Greenwald has been my fave internet writer for a long time. n/t
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:27 PM
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7. Yes, indeed
Broder thinks Clinton should have been impeached, but holding the Bush/Cheney cabal accountable is over the line.

Compare and contrast the facts of the two matters: In the Clinton affair, an endless investigation begun in the early days of the Clinton administration over a failed real estate investment from 1979 finally culminated more than six years later in 1998 with an accusation that the president had engaged in consensual sexual relations with an underling in 1996. A lame duck House voted through articles of impeachment in December 1998, and a Senate trial failed to register even a majority vote on any of the charges. Broder thought that was worthy of a presidential resignation.

With the Bush administration, we haven't even had an investigation, but the charges seem serious enough to warrant some kind of sanction: Failure to protect the country from terrorist attack; lying the country into two expensive and ruinous wars; warrantless spying on citizens without reasonable cause; torture; false imprisonment; abuse of power; fracturing the constitution and our treaty obligations; and that's just off the top of my head. But Broder thinks that's the sort of thing that should just get swept under the rug. The cost to the country would be just too great! What that cost actually is, Broder fails to say. But it's pretty obvious what at least part of the cost the country has paid so far for the crimes and the sins of the Bush administration run to the hundreds of billions, if not trillions of dollars, and the lives of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, lost.

But it can't be nearly as bad as Clinton getting a hummer in Broder's mind. After all, Washington wasn't Clinton's place to be engaging in that sort of unseemliness. Tut, tut!
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