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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:01 PM
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Should anything from politico be allowed to be posted here?
Where did politico come from and how long have they existed? For the most part all I see from them is bullshit passed as fact
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:03 PM
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1. I see the unreccers have already started. I guess that is their bible.
I really do hate that feature. I kicked you a rec just to help even the score.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=230720&mesg_id=230720
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:05 PM
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2. Rec'd to give it a small bump
Edited on Fri Sep-04-09 12:07 PM by eleny
Every once in a while I see a Politico reporter on the tv that says something that sounds plausible. But for the most part I am suspicious of their overall slant.

Edited to add: Whoops, the Unrecers must be out in force as the thread is back to 0. Well, you can Unrec but we can :kick:

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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:08 PM
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4. Congratulations on giving the UnReccers the attention they crave.
Ignore them and stop obsessing about UnRecs early in a thread history. Any thread which merits a lot of Recs will get them. Have patience.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:07 PM
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3. I'm against censorship & what may or may not be posted at DU
from a web source. Sometimes there may be something of interest at Poliico that should be posted here - let the responders to the thread decide if they want to view or if it is propaganda.

We all have more than 3 working brain cells here unlike Free Republic I assume.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:10 PM
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6. It would be unfortunate to see the Larouche crowd quoted here
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:14 PM
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8. "Drudge and the Politico -- poisonously joined at the hip"
Edited on Fri Sep-04-09 12:15 PM by emulatorloo
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/03/27/politico/index.html

Do a little more research on Politico when you get the chance. It isn't the "objective" journalism that it pretends to be.
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:15 PM
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9. I agree.
Censorship arises out of fear; thinking people do not fear words. If someone doesn't like the source, they're not under any obligation to read the post.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:19 PM
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12. But on the other hand if all one reads is bullshit
guess what, most of what they know will likewise be trash
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:48 PM
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20. But that isn't the context of this discussion, is it?
We're talking about what should or shouldn't be censored on DU. ;)

Even in a wider context though, censorship is wrong. Education doesn't come from removing what is 'bad' - it comes from holding those 'bad' things up to the light.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:10 PM
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5. Here is an awesome Politco article (that many Dems wish to forget):
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0407/3676.html

The time is now: Medicare for all
By: Senator Edward M. Kennedy
April 24, 2007 05:19 PM EST
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:11 PM
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7. Funded by Reaganite. Right Wing. Some good articles on it from Glenn Greenwald
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:17 PM
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10. I see that as throwing us a bone
you know every once in a while you have to feed the dog if you want him to stay around much.

All joking aside I read more bullshit coming from politico than I do any other site. When i read the thread title I can many times tell that this has to be something coming from there and sure 'nuf many times that's true.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:24 PM
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14. Oh, I mean Greenwald has done some excellent EXPOSEs of it as a "right wing cesspool"!
Check out that link I gave you when you have time, it will curl your hair!
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:25 PM
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15. Cool
my bad :hug: sorry
I will do that right now :-)
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create.peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 01:37 PM
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27. greenwald to harris a few years ago, email exchange at link
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/03/30/harris/index.html

" All of that is fair enough. But I think you're ignoring the context here. You are the one who wrote in your book that Drudge rules your world, and the world of mainstream journalists generally, called him the Walter Cronkite of your era, and said that no other source was as important in influencing the news other than Associated Press.

Beyond that, it isn't just that Drudge has linked to Politico; it's that Drudge has linked to you an unusually high number of times. In general, the fact that someone links to you does not mean that you share their ideology.

But Drudge's links are different. He and his website are cogs in the right-wing machine -- he is a virtual arm of the RNC -- and the stories he links to are most certainly designed to promote a very partisan agenda. The fact that he apparently considers not only isolated Politico articles -- but The Politico itself -- to fit so snugly and so frequently as a tool within his agenda is obviously noteworthy, particularly in light of all the other facts suggesting a connection, including your very own admission that he "rules" your world. "
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:17 PM
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11. Well, tell us which things from Politico YOU think shouldn't be allowed here.
And who you think should do the deciding.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:20 PM
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13. Skinner for one
Edited on Fri Sep-04-09 12:30 PM by madokie
Lots of sites that can't be linked here best I remember

Add: Pretty much everything I've read coming from there. I'm not talking about the Kennedy article in reply 5 as I see that as like I was saying a little earlier 'throwing us a bone.'
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:59 PM
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22. So, every article from Politico except the Kennedy article?
And would Skinner be the sole High Arbiter, or would there be a Censorsorship Committee?


You do realize the difference between Politico and websites banned from DU? The DU rules actually go into that in depth. Worth a look.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:32 PM
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16. More on Politico!
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:37 PM
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18. Yep, thats exactly why I asked
I see KO and Tweety both giving them coverage like they're progressive or something when neither should if they were paying attention
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:36 PM
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17. As an aside, yesterday I woke up early and noting was on the radio but Bill Press
Now, I've been political for long enough tto know that Bill Is a Tool of the DLC, but this shocked me:

Rick Masters was filling in for Bill and said (paraphraseing) " Politico is THE BEST, Most Complete and All Inclusive than any other political site on the internet"

I felt like puking.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:39 PM
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19. I do and just from reading what you wrote
I probably would have hurled too if I'd heard that myself early in the morning fresh out of bed
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:55 PM
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21. Since FR is so frequently referenced here, no other website should be banned.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 01:15 PM
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23. I don't have a big problem with it being posted in GD or GDP...
they do not belong on LBN and I think, not positive though, any Politico OPs that are posted on LBN are moved. Politico is a more polished version of Jeffie boy's Talon News and I try to point that out in every Politico thread.

Politico is financed by Robert Allbritton of Disney's ABC news. Jim Vandehei, who's Washington Post articles, I seem to remember, often supported the bush side on issues and he and Judith Miller would back each other up , is executive editor. His wife is a former Tom Delay staffer. Fredrick J. Ryan, Jr., former assistant to President Reagan and current chairman of the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library Foundation, is President and CEO of Politico.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Politico
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 01:17 PM
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24. I don't know if they should be banned, but people need to
be made aware that Politico is no friend to liberal or progressive causes.
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Wounded Bear Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 01:21 PM
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25. Bingo...
Since their inception, I was suspicious of them. Definitely NOT "fair and balanced." Not as bad as FAUX, perhaps, but no "liberal rag" either.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 01:21 PM
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26. Politico = typical "professional" moderate bullshit
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Change has come Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 01:39 PM
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28. Never. n/t
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