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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 01:33 PM
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House Liberals Complain They’re Being Left Out Of Loop On Health Care
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House Liberals Complain They’re Being Left Out Of Loop On Health Care


Hmm, this doesn’t bode well for liberal hopes on health care: Some House progressives are beginning to complain they’re being kept in the dark about House leadership negotiations over reform, suggesting they don’t know what direction reform is headed in.

The complaints are few and scattered, but they’re beginning to add up. While the leaders of the Congressional Progressive Caucus have pledged to maintain a united front, insisting they won’t support any bill without a public option, rank and file House progressives complain that the process is adrift and that they have no sense of direction from leadership.

“Out of 435 House members, 430 don’t know what’s going on,” Dem Rep. Maurice Hinchey of New York said the other day.

“It’s being done by the leadership, and we don’t know what’s going on,” Dem Rep. Dennis Kucinich said in a recent interview.


Asked by constituents recently what would be in the final bill, Dem Rep. Corrine Brown of Florida said she didn’t know. “You wouldn’t want me to tell a lie, would you?” Brown said, adding: “Right now we’re just talking about concepts.”

Meanwhile, Dem Rep. Jerrold Nadler of New York suggested he didn’t know what the cards held, but added that word of no public option “had better be wrong.”

The point is that despite the strong talk from House leaders about keeping the public option, there seems to be a growing sense among some House progressives that they don’t really have a seat at the table as the process unfolds. They don’t seem to think they’re in the game. A dynamic worth keeping an eye on.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 01:36 PM
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1. Sure- DEMS only "negotiate" with Tea-baggers who hate them and work to defeat them.
Edited on Fri Sep-04-09 01:37 PM by Dr Fate
They dont negotiate with those crazy Liberals. Let the grown ups who supported Bush at every turn handle this.

Who says DEMS don't have a spine?

DEMS stand up to those "crazy, left of the left" Liberals at every turn!!! So "moderate", so brave are they.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 01:39 PM
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2. This leads me to believe Chuck Todd's announcement at noon
is pretty official.

Todd: The PO will stay in but the Trigger will also pass.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 01:47 PM
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5. Which means the PO --
Edited on Fri Sep-04-09 01:47 PM by Hell Hath No Fury
is for all intensive purposes dead. :(
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 01:39 PM
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3. I don't know that you can involve all 430 in the process of negotiating?
Pelosi has already said, no public option, no bill.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:12 PM
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8. they don't fully believe her
neither do I, fully...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 01:39 PM
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4. Unbelievable.
Just unbelievable. WTF is he doing?
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 01:49 PM
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6. ok... if that's not telling, I don't know what is
I frankly am a bit sick of all the messages I'm getting, and a bit disturbed by how corporate this party is. This Bill will be either a breaking point, or a massive success for the Democratic Party. If they cave to the BS propaganda being funded by these Tea Bagging losers, then I will know the dems were looking for an "out".
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:08 PM
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7. The progressives did not have a seat at the table with single payer either!!
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:23 PM
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9. Only those with money, and only the RW loony tunes were
Edited on Fri Sep-04-09 02:24 PM by truedelphi
Of importance.

This nation is really a Banan Republic without the bananas, but it sure has an assortment of nuts!




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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:51 PM
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10. lols the democratic party is a useless sham
you imagine if the pubes had the amount of power we do? it wouldn't be..."House Conservatives Complain They’re Being Left Out Of Loop On Health Care"

:rofl:

battered wife syndrome indeed.
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Texasbacksass Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:57 PM
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11. If the house dems think they're being left out of the loop on healthcare
Tell em to wear "our private citizen shoes" for a few days and then complain about being left out afterward! Idiots!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 03:34 PM
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14. Idiots? Here's a clue: they represent me. You, I don't know about. nt
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:59 PM
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12. Wonder if Matt Taibbi is right and a deal has already been made.
That would explain keeping real reformers out of the loop.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 03:30 PM
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13. The loop is corporate property. n/t
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