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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:18 PM
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No we don't have a racism problem in this country
For this little nugget of shit, I reached into the bowels of the world that IS Topix--Paris, TX. The world-renowned cesspool of racism and rednecks.
Don't say I didn't warn you. But let me give a "tip" to the OP of the shit nugget--I can't imagine you treated any Black person with decency and respect. I wouldn't have tipped you either.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/paris-tx/T5TM83SAKEBEIQCOS

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I have a question i am a waitress at a restaraunt in paris and i was wondering why whenever black people come in . why do they not tip it gets so old of every single time they come in nobody wants to wait on gangster looking black people and now i know why becasue they don't tip. I would say its ok because they don't have money but most of them do because they have kids they dont pay for and they sell drugs so i know that have money to tip with .. and what kills me the most is how the ask howm much everything on the menu is that way they know how much they can spend and not leave a tip.. or this one kills me after they bitch about everything and get their fruity flavored drinks that are either strawberry or as they say it "starburry" or any other flavor they get their food discounted because they know that if they bitch enough they get a free meal even though the food was fine. and then another part is that they pay with a 100 dollar bill and can't leave a tip. but i know that blacks dont pay for the kids so i know they have money.. if you can buy weed and pants that don't fit then you can tip by god. if you don't want to tip don't come to a resaraunt where people serve you stick to your church's or popeyes or KFC chicken or go buy watermelon from wal-mart we are tired of being put on pedestal where we feel racist when were not blacks are more racist than whites. and they wonder why people think that blacks are bad people and rob,and kill and shoot and steal and do drugs and abandon their kids and dont have jobs its because all of that is true for at least 85% of paris. ok rapping is not a job or an admirable job at that work, go to school or something i mean you live on wlefare can't you at least be thankful and want to get off of welfare for once i would.. and i know not all blacks in paris are like this but on the real you as well as i know that at least 85% of them are there are a few diamonds in the rough out there in paris but as for the rest of you that don't tip i am talking to you. if you didn't tip the last time you went into a restaraunt your the blacks i am talking about. and when you comment this you don't have to represent what cell block or street your from, because the truth is noone really cares about all your gang crap anyway. and don't deny anything i said because you know its true. and if your going to comment please spell the words right no ebonics please i dont speak jungle dialect. i dont do all this yo yo and say dog, and know dat fo sho, what it do, or any gangster crap noone knows what you mean. if you want respect start giving it because it's not something you receive its something you earn and if you want to be viewed by society start wearing clothes that fit and start trying to find a job and take care of your kids and stop always trying to get something for nothing it gets annoying. respect can given to a black with a job you'd be surprised what you can get with a strong back and a shut mouth!!......charge

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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:20 PM
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1. Someone needs to show Robert E. Lee how to use the 'Enter' key.
That word avalanche gave me a headache.
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:27 PM
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5. That would be Roberta E Lee....
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:24 PM
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2. I couldn't get through it. Poorly written. nt.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:26 PM
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4. It's horrible isn't it?
and she has the nerve to write this
"and if your going to comment please spell the words right no ebonics please i dont speak jungle dialect."

Think about THAT one for a minute. :rofl:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 03:18 PM
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23. Wow! Well I couldn't read her redneck 'dialect'.
:evilgrin:
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 04:44 PM
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33. Can't you just picture her
Edited on Fri Sep-04-09 04:59 PM by Dogtown
hocking a Skoal Bandit loogee into granddaddy's spittoon, as she chicken-pecked that hateful screed?

CAVEAT: I'm *not* suggesting that all of the denizens of Paris, TX *OR* all our Southern brethren in general are socially crippled, merely this one example.
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Caliman73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 04:33 PM
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29. Same here
It is sad that people who look down on others are very often ignorant, uneducated, and lack the ability to express themselves clearly. It is also sad that they do not see that they have much more in common with the people that they demonize than with the group to which they aspire to belong.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:26 PM
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3. OMG, she's absolutely foaming at the mouth.
This part really gets me:

and if your going to comment please spell the words right no ebonics please i dont speak jungle dialect. i dont do all this yo yo and say dog, and know dat fo sho, what it do, or any gangster crap noone knows what you mean.


An illiterate idiot telling others to spell words correctly and use correct grammar. :face palm:

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:29 PM
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One wonders if her head would explode
if someone answered her using correct grammar and spelling.
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Laf.La.Dem. Donating Member (924 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:29 PM
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6. I bet 25 cents
She will NOT let her kids listen to our President (one of those blacks):argh:
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:32 PM
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7. lady, there's a reason you're a waitress in nowheres-ville, and always will be.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:48 PM
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13. and there is a reason why people don't leave you tips
Hint: it has nothing to do with them being Black.

It might in fact have to do with your attitude
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:35 PM
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8. bias against paragraphs... a sad thing to see -nt
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:39 PM
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9. is one idiot really "a racism problem"?
Edited on Fri Sep-04-09 02:39 PM by hfojvt
In a nation of 300 million do you think there might be a few a$$holes and a few idiots?

What really turns one stupid rant into a 'rascism problem'? You think this one person somehow represents all or most of the other 200 million white people in this country?

At least she didn't tell black people to 'fuck off and die'.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 03:01 PM
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17. The problem is that she feels perfectly comfortable posting that bilge in public
:eyes:
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 03:14 PM
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22. not so much in public
she is anonymous isn't she.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 03:08 PM
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20. read some of the other comments
and you will see that she is not alone in her opinion.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 03:11 PM
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21. yes and the call for Republicans to die
got something like 200 votes here too. Unfortunately, haters never seem to be alone in their hate.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 03:54 PM
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26. Why don't you venture off into the cesspool
and look at the majority of the topics on that page and then come back and tell me that there isn't a problem.:eyes:
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 04:55 PM
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36. Are you suggesting that
there *isn't* a problem with racism in our glorious republic?


C'mon, guy. No one will believe that you're that ingenuous. Excuse me for suggesting it, but the only possible conclusions from your statement are that you're lying, or you think that racism is a *good* thing. It's impossible to deny that racism is one of the top problems assailing our country.

Since the racists are often also the homophobes and the *real* religious bigots, their impact is triple-fold.
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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:43 PM
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10. Everybody who has worked in restaurants is not going to comment on this thread. nt
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:44 PM
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12. What's that supposed to mean?
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kelly1mm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 03:08 PM
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19. From my experience in the San Francisco area
in the restaurant service industry for two years (and this is only my experience) the worst tippers (meaning no tip or less than 10%) were old people (over 75ish) and blacks. The best tippers were anyone on a date. Just my experience.
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mudplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 03:33 PM
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24. My experience as a waiter and bartender is that the worst
tippers are stupid rednecks (if you'll forgive the redundancy). The absolute worst are southern rednecks. They breed like rabbits and they have money because they have kids but don't pay for them (over 80% of people receiving foodstamps are white), they have money for clothes so they dress up like pretend cowboys even though most of them have never been near a ranch or a cow, (and the women - where did they get the idea that skanky is sexy), most of them are divorced so many times that none of the kids at the table even remotely resemble the "parents" who often don't even exhibit bilateral symmetry and appear to be first cousins (or worse), and they don't know how to speak the English language. If you want to comment on my post, don't speak redneck, cose cant nobody understan that hick talk nohow.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 04:33 PM
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30. You left out one thing
This type of individual revels in being ignorant! They take an active dislike to anyone who has the slightest bit of education.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:43 PM
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11. "we are tired of being put on pedestal where we feel racist when were not"
*blink*
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:50 PM
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14. If you are a person who works for tips, it sucks. Old people are quite horrible
tippers as well. They want their early bird specials and only drink water. AND then leave a 10% tip, pat your ass (old men, blah), call you sweetie and say "I gave you a little extra for your trouble" ($3.00 on a $35.00 bill). I would say black people get a bad review as well, but that's not to say every single black person tips badly or every single old person tips badly. In the restaurant ind. you take the bad with the good. I'm not sure why the restaurant ind. persons have not gotten together and demanded a fair pay. I don't understand why wait staff should have to rely on a person sitting at the table eating and demanding service for their pay. The restaurant should build in the cost for paying their wait staff per hour... A tip would be something that is just nice to do. It shouldn't be up to an asshole sitting at a table who decides if they are going to stiff you out of your time and service. AND it causes these stereotypes and an attitude toward servicing people who come to a restaurant.

However, the overall racist tone of the entire entry is just wrong on soooo many levels. AND in the end, this racist person is relying on "those blacks" who don't take care of their kids and sell drugs to pay her salary.. the irony of her wanting that "drug" money to pay for her life... wowser.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 03:07 PM
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18. What I've heard from wait staff
is that lawyers and doctors were bad tippers. They would much rather have a blue collar worker to serve, because they tip better. (I've only worked in the kitchen, not as a waitperson, so I don't know from first hand knowledge).
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 04:21 PM
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28. Seriously, it just depends on the person sitting in the booth. The more conservative
their mind-set and politics, the worse tipper. Foreign persons tend to tip badly because they don't understand that the tip pays the person's salary unlike their own country. Old people on fixed incomes tend to tip badly and like they have when 10% was ok. People who have had to work in restraunts as wait staff, tip the best.. normally 20% (standard) - 30% (if you do an excellent job). There is a general stereotype about black people not tipping.. but I find that normally, the older the person is, the worse they tip. So older and used to 10 - 15% is more normal. These days, most cell phones have a tip calculator built into the phone. The younger gen. uses the tip calculator, and they are much better at leaving tips. Many times, because of education, some people don't know what the tip % should be and they guess a low amt. I personally think that people should take personal responsibility. If they cannot afford the tab plus an appropriate 18 - 20% tip with the meal, then they should not go out or find a restaurant that would be affordable within their budget. On the other hand, wait staff should pool together and demand real pay for a hard days work.
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 04:47 PM
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35. I just worked the door
but all the servers I knew claimed pipe-smokers were the worst tippers.

:shrug:
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:51 PM
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15. Just for fun, I left a comment
So many of the comments were filled with hate (and bad grammar and spelling) I had to write something using complete sentences just to see what happens.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:55 PM
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16. I just asked my better half, who worked in restaurants in the South for decades
and she says that her black customers tended to tip BETTER than the white ones, and were far friendlier to the lowly wait staff than the snotty white old people who frequented those places. She also says that black folks were far less likely to drive-off with gas at the convenience store she worked at or try to shoplift, even though the racist asshole manager insisted that employees must "watch" them more closely. She says that the vast majority of the shoplifting and gas drive-offs there involved young white men in pickups with rebel flag stickers.

Go figure.
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Shandris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 03:53 PM
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25. From my experience...
...my first thought was 'I hear this kinna thing from my friend almost every day'. And, where we live there is a huge amount of 'stereotyping' of the 'typical black'. Back when I used to waitress, I often thought the same thing but I was far less aware back then (by back then I mean maybe 10 years or so, its been a good while :) ). But one thing I learned over time and often remind people of is that bad things tend to stand out in our minds, whereas normal or even nice ones don't. Much like the speech at Caesar's burial, the good is often overlooked. you may remember that one table who didn't tip well, but did you remember the 15 tables that tipped just as much as everyone else did? Well no..there's no compelling reason for you TO remember it. I think that this accounts for a large portion of these perceptions.

There are other things to take into account also (the definition of the word 'tip' and what constitutes one can be VERY eye-opening amongst a circle of friends) that a lot of people take for granted, but only from their personal perspective. I think you see the kind of response written above by those who spend the least amount of time thinking, as being given to thought tends to bring up some of the things I mentioned above.

As for the article itself as a whole...blech. I spent most of my comment relating my experience and how I've learned otherwise, but I don't see the same happening for this author. The invective flows SO freely from her it seems its pretty much ingrained for life. I hope her children find a way to learn on their own or no doubt they will carry on the family tradition of hate. :(
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 04:01 PM
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27. My reply

Waitresses didn't care to wait on Black folks where I worked as a busboy in Indianapolis for supposedly the same reason. One night a waitress took a group's order then brought them their food and check without ever returning to the table.

They flagged me down a couple times to get the waitress so they could order more drinks. Eventually I started waiting on them myself (the waitress just had to ring everything up).

Sure enough at the end of the night, they gave the waitress $1 for a $100-$150 tab.

On the other hand, they tipped *me* $50!

And, yes, the waitress screamed to high heavens about me taking that tip (busboys aren't allowed to take tips directly from customers). But when she complained to the manager, and I told him what happened ... well, she was lucky to keep her job. While I kept the tip.


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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 04:37 PM
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31. Good for you!
Kindness is repaid with kindness. I know there have been times when a waitperson has been given a hard time by another table, and my husband and I have made sure our tip was 25-30% instead of our usual 15-20% just because the waitperson had kept their cool and stayed polite.
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 04:38 PM
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32. Must work at Denny's...
That idiocy was so overt the top, I'm not convinced it's not some DU'er or someone playing pranks again. Some budding Bob Boudelang. If not, it should win a Bullshitzer price for longest and most ignorant sentence in the history of the English language.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 04:46 PM
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34. I couldn't even make it all the way through that trash
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