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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 05:44 PM
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Outraged Parent Believes Race A Factor; Teacher Embarrassed By Opt-Out Notes; "N*-Loving Communist"
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http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/09/04/nc-sc-school-boards-offer-obama-speech-opt-outs

NC, SC school boards offer Obama speech ‘opt-outs’

BY LARISA ALEXANDROVNA

Published: September 4, 2009
Updated 4 hours ago

Outraged parent believes race is a factor; One teacher is embarrassed over ‘opt-out’ notes

President Obama is scheduled to give a nation-wide speech to schoolchildren on their first day back from summer vacation on September 7. The speech is billed as a national address to the students of America, however, conservatives have reacted by pressuring school districts to refrain from broadcasting the speech.

In response, schools in several southern states are giving parents an “opt-out” option for their children.

In Simpsonville, South Caroline, for example, the Bells Crossing Elementary school principal issued robocalls to parents telling them that letters would be sent home for them to sign if they did not want their children to watch the President’s speech.

An outraged parent, Chuck Hamilton, contacted Raw Story to complain about what he believes is a racist response to a African American president. “It is obvious to me that had this been Bush, or any other white Republican, the phone call and letter home would not have happened,” Hamilton wrote in an email.

But Bells Crossing Elementary School is not alone in its reaction to the President’s upcoming speech.

A call to the Greenville Country School Board confirmed that all schools in that district are receiving calls from their own principals and having letters sent home.

Susan Richards, a spokesperson for the Greenville Country School Board declined to answer questions as to why the board felt it necessary to take these measures. “You will have to speak to the Director of Communications, but he is not available right now.” A message was left for the Director, who has not responded.

Teacher at school embarrassed to hand out op-out materials

In an email exchange acquired by Raw Story, Mrs. Hamilton wrote to her child’s fifth grade teacher to express concern over the school’s actions. The Hamiltons have requested that the teacher’s information be kept private.

In response, the teacher expressed “embarrassment” over the way the whole matter has been handled:”

I wholeheartedly agree with you. In fact, I was and still am embarrassed to pass out those notes or that it was even necessary to do so. Even if I didn’t agree with the policies of the leader of our country - his message isn’t intended to “brainwash the youth of America” (being TOTALLY sarcastic….) but meant for a positive message in which I am guessing the speech he is going to give is similar to the one he gave his own children at the beginning of the school year.
Feel free to rant…..I have rants of my own~!

Even as teachers and parents express outrage at the school board’s response to the President’s speech, more documented cases are emerging across the country.

In North Carolina, the Dare County School Board is taking similar measures. Another concerned parent, who wishes to remain anonymous, contacted Raw Story about a newsletter item that was sent out and posted on the board’s web site:

According to the North Carolina Department of Public Instruction, on Tuesday, September 8, at 12 noon, President Barack Obama will deliver a national address to encourage students to set high academic goals and to do their best to succeed in school.

Any parent who wishes for his/her children not to participate may “opt out” by contacting the school(s) where the children are enrolled. Principals will be contacting parents by various means, such as with forms, electronic mail, websites, or via an announcement on the educational television station. If parents have any questions, they should call the school(s) where the children attend.

The Dare County School Board did not return calls for comment.

ABC News also reported that similar school actions are being taken in six states. According to Jake Tapper, “districts in Texas, Illinois, Virginia, Wisconsin, Missouri and Minnesota are even refusing to show the president’s address.”

Talking Points Behind School Reactions?

It is unclear at this point if the reaction from conservatives is nothing more than a political effort by the party to fire up the base against the President or if there is genuine concern from parents, thereby forcing the schools to in turn respond.

But there is plenty of stoking by Conservative pundits and local chapters of the GOP, with eerily similar talking points, claiming that Obama is enacting some sort of socialist indoctrination program.

Conservative blogger Michelle Malkin, for example, wrote in a September 1 column on her blog: “Will Obama be able to resist issuing a call to youth arms to marshal help in passing his legislative agenda?”

A blog called GOP Counter Culture pushed for a boycott, asking conservatives to call school boards across the country.

“Tell the school no thanks, your child will PASS. I heard about this first on Glenn Beck’s radio program today,” the blog stated. “And on Michelle Malkin’s website, a board member writes that the DoE usurped them and went straight to the principals on this.”

WorldNetDaily, a right-wing publication, reported on various bloggers and comments from conservative parents who are attempting to create a Keep Your Child at Home Day, citing as an example a comment from the right-wing Free Republic forum.

“I am not going to compare President Obama to Hitler. We’ll leave that to others and you can form your own opinions about them and their analogies. … However, we can learn a lot from the spread of propaganda in Europe that led to Hitler’s power. A key ingredient in that spread of propaganda was through the youth,” wrote a blogger at the AmericanElephant.com blog, where the subject of the day was a national “Keep-Your-Child-at-Home-Day.

CBS News spoke with Jim Greer, the chairman of the Florida Republican Party who used almost identical language in describing Obama’s scheduled speech:

“The idea that school children across our nation will be forced to watch the President justify his plans for government-run health care, banks, and automobile companies, increasing taxes on those who create jobs, and racking up more debt than any other President, is not only infuriating, but goes against beliefs of the majority of Americans, while bypassing American parents through an invasive abuse of power,” Greer told the network.

Fox News pundits, like Glenn Beck, are also front and center, using the same terminology to label the Obama’s back to school speech as “indoctrination.”

Media Matters for America, a media watchdog organization has documented additional claims from the right that Obama’s speech is seeking to indoctrinate Americas youth and references to Hitler and Socialism, all very similar.

Parent called ‘n*gger loving communist’ for defending Obama speech in paper

After complaints about the plan to have students’ lesson plans include an assignment on “how to help” the president surfaced — the White House did reverse course on Thursday and say they’ll rewrite the primer.

Among the ideas suggested for pre-K to 6th grade students was to “write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president.”

White House spokesman Tommy Vietor told Fox News that new language will make “lesson plans clearer,” and that a planned Obama speech to students “is not a policy speech, but is intended to encourage kids to work hard and commit to school.”

MSNBC’s Domenico Montanaro wrote, “Since the White House has said the text of the speech will be available for 24 hours before he delivers it and since they altered the lesson plan language, why is this still a controversy? The ability of the conservative media machine to generate a controversy for this White House is amazing. In fact, this is an example of a story that percolates where it becomes harder and harder for some to claim there’s some knee-jerk liberal media bias. (Does anyone remember these kinds of controversies in the summer of 2001?) The ability of some conservatives to create media firestorms is still much greater than liberals these days.”

RAW STORY was unable to confirm if any school boards offered “opt outs” for speeches by Republican Presidents, but race could be a factor on some level.

A parent who was quoted in a local newspaper later wrote on Twitter that she received an anonymous phone call which used the n-word to attack her.

“It seems like there’s a concerted effort to undermine President Obama by people on the right, and I think this is part of that,” Teresa Kopec told South Carolina’s Spartanburg Herald-Journal. “I disagreed with George W. Bush for most of his presidency, but I never disparaged him in front of the kids or told them not to respect the office. By dragging children into this as pawns, and threatening to take them out of school … That just sends a terrible message to our youth.”

Kopec later Tweeted, “I just got anonymous phone call calling me a ‘n*gger loving communist’ for giving pro-Obama statement to local paper.”

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Vasmosn Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 05:48 PM
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1. Ok....
I teach high school and had planned to show my students the speech. This is the text of the email I got from our county office:

Most of you are probably aware that President Obama is to make a speech to all school children on Sept 8, 2009. We have received many phone calls at central services regarding this address. We are asking that you use the following procedures at each school when and if the address is shown to your students:

1. Do not show the video when it is aired live on Sept. 8th. Classes will have the ability to show a recorded version at a later date allowing time for procedures described below to be put in place.
2. Principals must approve any showing of the presidential address. Approval should be given when it can be appropriately applied to our curriculum.
3. You are being provided an opt out form to send home with students who are in classrooms where approval has been given to show the address. That form is attached. Please copy as needed. Please don't forget to update your school name in the upper right hand corner. Parents should send this form back if they do not want their children to view the speech.

Please contact me if you should have any questions.

(name deleted)
Assistant Superintendent
Human Resource Services
Beaufort County Schools

I promise you I will not show my students a tape of his speech and probably will not ever show them ANYTHING presented live again. But we WILL talk about it in my Minority Studies class.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 05:50 PM
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2. This is absolutely insane. They are drawing a line in the sand with this one....
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 06:00 PM
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9. Can you just read the text of Obama's statement to the class?
Wouldn't violate the idiotic memo you got and I believe the kids would get a laugh at what their idiot parents are so enraged about.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 06:18 PM
Response to Reply #1
16. Teach them civil disobedience
Teach them to walk out of the school, tell them to go home, and watch the President's speech.

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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 06:49 PM
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23. I like this idea. A lot. n/t
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:24 PM
Response to Reply #16
56. GREAT idea! n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 06:31 PM
Response to Reply #1
18. How stupid
I teach in an elementary school and we are airing the speech live but allowing the parents to opt their kids out. So far, no one has said no.

But then my school is 100% minority.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:17 AM
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70. "allowing time for (editing) procedures (not) described below" - the question I want answered...
is whether or to what extent these so-called seats of American edumacationing are being funded and with whose tax payer dollars; or if it is the case that these errant thinkers are privately funded and what cause they espouse; or if are funded by faith based non-denominational 'voucher' and in that process destroying-with-intent key inalienable rights to separation of church & state which is an abuse of process *at* it's base, a fine thing to be teaching children - not

I'd be interested in reviewing the status of funding these 'schools of disruptive republicanism & corporate indoctrination', the extent to which any of my money is able to support such drivel even a penny would be better to be made known
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 05:51 PM
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3. Haul them all to Gitmo for TREASON!
Somebody tell me this is a rumor.
"Opt-out" notes??????
Isn't that unpatriotic?
He is, after all, their President.

Can you IMAGINE the shit-fit these people would've had
if the same had been implemented for Bush INC.?

The hypocrisy is mind numbing.

BHN...........................:puke:
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 06:00 PM
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8. Uh... no. This is racism, stupidity, ignorane, unpatriotic, maybe
even un-American, but its not treason ... we're better than them, let's not stoop to the soopid
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 06:27 PM
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17. Sorry, should have used the sarcasm thing.
I was trying to highlight the ignorance and hypocrisy of the
people I was referring to.
You know they would have accused anyone of who suggested such a thing of treason
were it a Bush speech to Amerikkkan school children.

BHN
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 06:38 PM
Response to Reply #17
22. That'a what I thought at first,
but I'm begining to think that there is some of that zealous ignorance on our side too.

:hug:
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 06:52 PM
Response to Reply #22
25. Well HELL, I've always said that!
The dems are just as guilty for not seeing themselves
as the lemmings they are.
The board abounds with people who question nothing.

BHN
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Jester Messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 07:12 AM
Response to Reply #8
48. Uh... yes. We need to shut these bastards down before they go too far.
This current situation is a test bed. If entire states start "opting-out" from the president's policy, you have the seeds of a second civil war. Some heavy-handedness is rapidly becoming appropriate in order to keep the situation from devolving any further.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 05:51 PM
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4. K n 5th Rec. My Latina hairdresser was just talking about the inherent racism of this response...
:argh:

Hekate
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 05:52 PM
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5. Each day, I become more and more embarrassed about being an American.
Since Obama's inauguration, with the emergence of lingering racism, it seems as if there is no end to the hatred and ignorance spewing from so many so-called patriotic Americans.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 06:02 PM
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10. i agree
and then there's the fool here who keeps saying these people aren't racist...they are just scared :scared: right :eyes:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 06:03 PM
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11. And I was so proud when we elected him!
As another DUer pointed out, this is shining a light in the corners exposing the racism that we've either been unaware of or pretending it didn't exist. In the long run, this may be what's needed to heal our country, but it's going to be a rocky road, I fear. We've really become divided. :(



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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 06:17 PM
Response to Reply #11
14. hey - that was me who posted that!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 06:32 PM
Response to Reply #14
19. I always give credit where credit is due...even when I forget WHO to credit --
and I've used it since then. I think it was a brilliant observation. :headbang:
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 06:34 PM
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21. thanks, pal!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 03:36 PM
Response to Reply #14
64. An excellent observation and
a positive way to look at all this.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 05:56 PM
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6. Welcome to modern public education...........
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 05:58 PM
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7. Racism? You think?
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 06:05 PM
Response to Reply #7
12. perhaps you can help me educate someone
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 06:52 PM
Response to Reply #12
26. I couldn't possibly educate someone
whose nick is the word 'genius', except each character is the next letter in the alphabet. That means he's a genius +1. And I never mess with a genius +1 unless I'm wearing my helm of disintegration.

:dunce:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 06:05 PM
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13. Color me flabergasted.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 06:17 PM
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15. This reminds me of the response of the rw whites to busing in the 70's
Except that now wingers even more unhinged and paranoid.

This doesn't just make me incredibly angry, it fills me with sadness. The stupid and hateful are choking the life out of the US.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #15
20. Amen
It's exactly like that.
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 11:35 PM
Response to Reply #15
36. 1957, Little Rock, Arkansas. Except the hated one is a President.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 06:52 PM
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24. How sad for Malia and Sasha, I hope there is some way to sheild them from this.
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The Animator Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #24
30. Somehow, I don't think their parents are going to opt them out on account of this Obama speech...
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #24
60. Actually it's a good teaching moment for all youngsters
Shielding children from reality while you can actually protect how they learn it isn't necessary. Parents everywhere have a chance to take what's happening right now and having a good two way conversation with their kids. This is the perfect teaching moment.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 07:30 PM
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27. Ugly Americans are showing their ugly natures/racism in unparalleled numbers and
ways: the rest for the world must be in disbelief that any society could be eaten up with so many on the radical lunatic fringe. :P
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 08:35 PM
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29. No, I don't think many are in disbelief ...
We all have our own ugly, racists. I read their comments on my home news page every morning, and it's getting worse. We all have our lunatic fringe, if anything, they're getting stronger up here the longer Harper is in. I'm just really sorry that yours are hurting a good, decent man and his family trying to make life better for them and that they're just too full of hate to see it.
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d_r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 07:30 PM
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28. thought experiment
Imagine some white haired republican was the president and he was giving a speech to tell kids to do well in school. Now imagine that some parents complained and a school didn't show the speech.

You know as well as I do that 95% of the people carping about Obama's speech would flip out. Yes, there are some people who would complain about anything. But the vast majority of the people who are now complaining about the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES "indoctrinating" children would be going nuts if a school didn't show a republican president. They would be shouting about the Un-American, Un-patriotic, leftest socialist trying to deny their children the right to listen to the President. How dare they? they would ask. They would say "first they take religion out of the schools, now you can't even hear the president of the United States!!" They would be blaming it on boogey men like ACLU atheists, and Acorn Thugs, and Union Goons, and East Coast Elitists, and Hollywood Nutjobs, and Socialist Egghead Professors, and Homosexuals, and Dirty Hippies. They would be writing their newspapers and calling up the religious radio stations crying and talking about how the schools are taking their children's rights away, and denying freedom of speech, and imposing a socialist agenda like a bunch of nazis. What has happened to our country? they would ask, when children weren't allowed by some school administrator - who was probably just working for the NEA - can keep children from listening to the PRESIDENT OF THE USA. "First school prayer, now this? When will it ever stop? These people are taking our tax dollars to impose this kind of agenda??"


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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:19 AM
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38. It Was Never Really About "Patriotism" Or "America" Or "Values" With These People

Instead of hi-jacking planes and flying them into buildings, these people hi-jack words, like "Christian", and do harm with them.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #28
58. you are so right
And it is so sad that so few people in the MSM are calling bullshit on these ignorant simians.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 03:20 PM
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61. That is a great point
Imagine Hannity and his ilk responding to people wanting to opt out of hearing "President Romney" give a speech about education. He would be yelling and screaming about how unAmerican that would be and how it shows the lack of basic moral values on the left.

And on and on.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 03:26 PM
Response to Reply #28
63. You're right. It's just about opposing anything President Obama does
That's the agenda. Period. It doesn't matter why or what started it anymore.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 09:15 PM
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31. For parents that want to have their children watch the speech
and their school district is too ignorant to let the kids watch in school, the parents should keep their kids home so they can watch.

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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 09:26 PM
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32. It's not the content they object to - it's the person giving the speech
Apparently everyone is just guessing at what he will say, including idiots like Michelle Malkin. No one seems to have any idea of what Obama will say. But some parents are behaving in a way that any message in the speech, even a call to academic excellence is not the issue. It's the identity of the person giving the speech, the first African American President, that they object to. The GOP is trying to take us back to a time when some Americans turned Martin Luther King off their TV sets back in the 1960s mainly because they hated the messenger. This type of hatred is a throwback to more evil times in America and I can't believe anyone in their right mind in the GOP would try to foment this type of feeling against the President. Object to what he says after the fact if you don't like it and don't share his views. But don't send the message to your kids before the fact that anything he can say is bad for them because of who he is.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 09:37 PM
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33. And some here have the nerve to say it's not about race.
"Kopec later Tweeted, “I just got anonymous phone call calling me a ‘n*gger loving communist’ for giving pro-Obama statement to local paper."
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:46 PM
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34. can we opt out of the efffing pledge of allegience?!?!?!
and the effing invocattion??!?!! and the effing other pseudo 'patriotic' bullshit we get rammed down our throats in school??!?! thought so!!!
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:21 AM
Response to Reply #34
39. sure we can
i opted out of saying "under God" when i said the pledge. my teacher had no problem with that
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:48 PM
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35. It's time to make their dreams come true
Cede the Confederacy to the lunatic fringe and give relocation resources to those wishing to live there and leave there. Cut off all federal funds to the Confederacy and leave them to their own devices. Reconstruction has gone on for far too long.
I don't like these animated butt plugs and they don't like me.
Will the Jerry Springer audience please leave the civilized world now.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 11:45 PM
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37. I'm told 2 school districts in San Diego are refusing to show the video:
La Mesa Spring Valley and El Cajon School Districts. Will verify Monday when schools open but these are in right wing areas so wouldn't doubt it could be true. I find this censorship extremely troubling.

What does the ACLU say about this? Are there any constitutional issues here?
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:30 AM
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41. Here's a link...
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:58 PM
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54. Good lord that's sad
400 some odd posts that do nothing but scream about maxism, racism, socialism, big brotherism, and all kinds of other shit they know nothing about.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:57 PM
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57. It's very sad. n/t
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Rocky Sullivan Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:23 AM
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40. Rawstory? sheesh... n/t
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:37 AM
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42. It's by a great investigative reporter.
Edited on Sat Sep-05-09 01:39 AM by Hissyspit
Larisa Alexandrovna broke stories of national import that either no one else was covering or "mainstream" outlets then reported as if they broke the story.

If you have anything useful to contribute besides uninformed petty disdain, feel free, otherwise you'll probably find yourself not taken too seriously here...
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Rocky Sullivan Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:09 AM
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43. So this is what she's uncovered?
What will she reveal to us next, that the sky is blue?

It was a no-brainer that several blatant racists would be among the HUGE NUMBER of conservatives who appear to object to the President's message to schoolkids.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:30 AM
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44. Here's her investigative work.
Go read it all and get back to me with something intelligent. I never said this piece was a major investigative piece: http://rawstory.com/larisa_alexandrovna.php

I think this piece is about giving the other side of this issue (the intelligent side) some coverage, since much of it seems to be lacking in the mainstream press.

You have a problem with calling out racists or giving voice to people who are battling racists?

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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:59 AM
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45. I think you got that last sentance backwards.

It was a no-brainer that A FEW CONSERVATIVES would be among the HUGE NUMBER of RACISTS who appear to object to the President's message to schoolkids.


Mmm, that's more like it ~
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 04:23 AM
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47. 29 points posts?
you here for a reason?
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:52 PM
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53. what's wrong?
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onestepforward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 03:16 AM
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46. The road ahead is long and bumpy with our new President.
There is a lot of ugliness and stupidity rearing its disgusting head right now and it will not be subsiding any time soon. Hang on though, because it will turn around at some point.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 08:08 AM
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 11:45 AM
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50. With all these "southern states" how did we lose the war?
OREGON Oregon Sen. Alan Bates rallied behind local teachers in condemning a Medford School District decision to block students from seeing a speech by President Barack Obama that will be aired in many classrooms across the country Tuesday.

WISCONSIN Schools across Wisconsin could broadcast a video message on education from President Obama Tuesday. The speech has drawn fire because the White House included educational materials urging kids to make suggestions to help the president. That idea was later scrapped, but critics accused the Democrat Obama of trying to indoctrinate youngsters.

Concerned parents have been calling their school districts and the office State Representative Steve Nass (R-Whitewater). Spokesman Mike Mikalsen says Representative Nass is concerned about parents’ rights and whether students can opt out of the discussion.


MICHIGANMany West Michigan school districts decide not to show live feed of President Obama's speech to students
by Julie Makarewicz and Kym Reinstadler | The Grand Rapids Press
Friday September 04, 2009, 7:41 PM


CALIFORNIA By Mitchell Landsberg and Jason Song
September 5, 2009

President Obama's speech to students next week may be a "teachable moment," as some educators see it, but it will not be a command performance.

NEW YORK Supt. Thomas Hensley of the Southern York County School District just wanted to make everybody happy.
Faced with complaints from parents who didn't want their children to watch President Barack Obama's back-to-school address Tuesday, he could have simply directed the schools not to show it to students. But he also got calls from some parents who wanted their children to see the address, saying it was history and would benefit their kids' education.

So he opted for the Solomonic approach -- cut the baby in half.


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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:08 PM
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51. Am I the only one who finds this kind of un-patriotic?
I mean, seriously, he is the President of the U.S.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:45 PM
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52. This lunacy has got to stop!
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:04 PM
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55. didn't we already fight the freaking Civil War?
sad
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 03:12 PM
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59. I hope this speech becomes historic, like MLK jr's I Have a Dream
So everyone will forever remember when and why it was made. So those who are on the wrong side of history right now will forever be ashamed. Or be shamed by their children and their grandchildren.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 03:22 PM
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62. The whole Anti-Obama school speech is political to instill fear into the children
so as to hopefully get them as they become old enough to vote to degrade both our President, any non-white race and the Democrats. This has nada to do with the speech at all. All these children will remember being hurried away from Obama. They will remember it for sure. Not the great speech that he would give. It is all Rovian.
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LiberalLovinLug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 01:29 PM
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72. Right. The harm is coming from the haters
Kids trust their parents at that age and look up to them and believe them. The ones that are told to stay home so as not to be 'brainwashed' with evil socialist indoctrination, will grow up in the next 7 years (knock on wood) in a cloud of mistrust and downright fear of their own President.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 05:20 PM
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65. And I thought I was embarrased for America when the posion bUsh was selected.
I am beyond shame for the hateful people who keep their children from a message of hope and encouragement because of the color of the presidents skin.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 08:06 PM
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66. it's not that they all decided to come out of the woodwork
these incitements, like the tea baggers, are orchestrated and freely given air time. Look who is given airtime every night on major networks? Now remember how * and his ilk were treated by the media during his tenure? The one who has caused more damage to this country and gave us two damaging wars. They give us tokens, like KO and Rachel, but they are not on a major network, are they?
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Wendio Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 09:27 AM
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67. Not only did I receive an opt out letter on Thursday,
I received an email and an automated phone message just in case I didn't get the letter.
I am in Davis County Utah.
When Bush was in office, my daughter had to watch a presidential address and write a paper.
It was a required assignment. We weren't given an opt out. Of course I would never think to call and complain.
I was not afraid of her learning for herself what an idiot he is.
This is insane.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 09:33 AM
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68. Is this a video, or radioactive plutonium?
From the hysterical responses, you'd think that seeing a 15-minute presidential address about staying in school and doing your best was the equivalent of showing students "Deep Throat" or something. Sheesh people, get a grip.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 09:45 AM
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:28 AM
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71. When are we going to stop playing kidball with these farking loons
and acting surprised that they don't behave responsibly, or even sanely?

I think they are begging us to get tough with them, the way a young child acts out for attention, because they don't know how to say "Mom and Dad? I'd probably be more successful in a more disciplined and structured environment."

These toddlers in oversized bodies are not mature enough to be dealt with as adults.
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tooeyeten Donating Member (441 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 01:31 PM
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73. I'd say "people have lost their minds"
except that the truth is Obama's election only brought the crazies and racists out of the woodwork, and Fox is the purveyor of hate. It's no wonder Fox's polls went up, we're surrounded by prejudice.
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