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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:10 PM
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"Let them go on. They'll soon be seen as crazy. There will be a backlash"
This made up quote is emblematic of the kinds of things the more sanguine lefties like to sniff with respect to the army of crazies that has descended upon the land like a plague of locusts.

So .... when will that happen this time?

All I see is the volume going up.

The teabaggers numbered in the scores. The birthers in the hundreds. The town hallers are much more numerous.
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:13 PM
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1. That's what the Jews thought about the Nazis in Germany
"Hitler's a clown", "He won't last a year", "Don't worry the German economy needs our businesses to keep running", on an on. Self-delusion or denial of reality?
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:17 PM
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3. Good point, and clearly a denial of reality
The town hall meetings turned out to be a platform for right wingers to spew their lies far more often than an opportunity to inform the public about health care.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:49 PM
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10. Yep. And what about the Swiftboaters? Their claims were so
Edited on Fri Sep-04-09 10:50 PM by tblue37
patently absurd, and the historical record so clear, that no one could possibly believe them

Except that then, as now, they had the full power of the MSM to help them sell their propaganda and, equally important, to actively suppress the truth.
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 11:45 PM
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13. I can't believe I'm reading these words on DU. Really?
This is something I would write, then get attacked for by idiots on DU who tell me "Hitler was never a figure of ridicule like Palin or Bush" and then get my post removed by the ever-intelligent moderators on the basis of "anti-Semitism".

I predict your post will be removed in 6 hours, and I will be finally banned for pointing out the obvious.

(1) Hitler and the Nazis were figures of ridicule in the "sophisticated" and "civilized" democracy of the Weimar Republic. Fact. This is NOT anti-Semitism.

(2) This is even alluded to in "Schindler's List" where the old matriarch, on a train-ride to Auschwitz, quashes Death Camp rumors by saying "They need us for our labor. They won't kill us." This is NOT anti-Semitism to point this out.

(3) "Mob Rule" was a grave concern of FDR and New Dealers during the 1930s and 1940s. This concern shows up repeatedly in Frank Capra movies of the era, notably http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ox-Bow_Incident ... This is NOT anti-Semitism.

Now feel free to ban me, dumbfuck moderators.
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coyotespaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 05:24 AM
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17. Five and a half hours later...
yet, both you and this post are both here. 'Twould seem that your ability to predict the future is on par with the writers of The Jetsons. The "dumbfuck moderators" (whom I believe you owe an apology to) haven't banned you, and I still don't have a flying car that folds into a briefcase. You stay classy, troubledamerican.

D
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 05:24 AM
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18. What's wrong with this phrase: "Dumbfuck moderators?"
Your argument up to that point was just fine. I suspect (I haven't seen any of your previous posts) that on those other occasions you might have had something useful to say and then blew it by an unecessarily provocative remark.

Just chill and I'm sure you'll be heard.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:16 PM
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2. Pretty soon, partially insane will be mainstream
and completely sane will be considered extreme.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:22 PM
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4. All is not lost! I see some reps fighting back.
Reporting 12:00 PDT. MSNBC reports that four caucuses -The Progressive Caucus, The Hispanic Caucus, The Asian Caucus, The Black Caucus had a conference call with the Prsident to communicate that they are in solidarity that health care reform MUST include a public option - they are invited to meet with the President before his Congressional Address.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8627286
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:26 PM
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5. Common sense would say there is nothing wrong with the President speaking to school kids.
Remember when "conservatives" talked about common sense? When will America wake up and realize that all of these people are complete crackpots?
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:33 PM
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6. CNN.com's headline right now about the speech to children:
"Obama's speech for kids angers some parents"

Framed as if there's a legitimate issue with a speech that hasn't even been given.

Stupid and crazy are not ridiculed in public; the MSM puts a gentle spin on them and gives them airtime.
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Shoelace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:34 PM
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7. conservatives don't like them, think they are hurting them all
or so I just heard from David Broder tonight on the Lehrer news hour. The last straw is that kerflufle over Obama's school talk. I say let them show the country just how :crazy: they really are - backlash guaranteed from their own quarters!
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:42 PM
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8. Boortz made an unequivocal statement against them, too. So did Scarborough.
I don't know about other right wing noozers/yakkers, but I'll bet there are more.

And yet, their leader, The Great Gasbag, keeps the crazies all fired up.

The whole bunch of them are like turds in a flushing toilet ....... that clogs and overflows.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:45 PM
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9. The GOPer Ankle Biters come in hoards using brwn shrt techniques of keeping the discussions focused
on wedge issues...the intent is to DIVIDE using emotional Fear Cards...the easily fooled...into GOP ATTACK DOGS

Crow Din Din coming soon.....
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 11:50 PM
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14. The brown shirts won /nt
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:08 AM
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15. not in the long run....they lost the war
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 08:16 PM
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21. Yes, they lost the war... to the United States
Edited on Sat Sep-05-09 08:18 PM by jberryhill
...and at the cost of tens of millions of lives.

Somehow, if they win here, I don't think the US is going to beat them again.

The point is the brown shirts DID win, and Germany was laid waste.

In "the long run" the sun swallows the earth.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 08:24 PM
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22. That them BS dudes won the first time psyops was employed doesn't
mean success 70 years later...hugh diff...

This time, they will be seen as the Bullies they are and lose their asses as did the past 2 elections.

All they have is Nits

got no wits

only zits
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 10:50 PM
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11. I think that's what they said in Germany during the 1920's.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 11:44 PM
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12. And this was said about the swiftboat liars in 2004.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 05:10 AM
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16. Lots of examples our having done this
It is a well known pattern for our side. We're always too smart, too sure, to chickenshit to fight back.

Fight 'em with the facts, we say.

Well .... the facts don't even enter into the equation!
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 05:36 AM
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19. I'm one of those who thinks that this round of crazy will cost the wingnuts big time . . .
While still having visions of brownshirts in my head and a very creepy feeling about the whole thing. Color me ambivalent.

What I see (and admittedly I'm watching from overseas, so my point of view may be distorted) is that while the rhetoric gears up, and more of the closet cuckoos come forth, the wedge that's being driven is between the sane and the insane. The number of those identifying themselves as Republican continues to go down, with most of the leakage into self-described "independent" points of view.

Independents are a complicated lot, but can probably be described by two categories: 1) those who know what they believe and think that neither party has it quite right, and 2)those who are confused by it all and think neither party has it right. Are either of these populations moving right as a result of recent eructations like teabagging and the war on education? I don't think so.

While mob rule is not to be sniffed at, I do believe that the mobs would be quite small compared to the rest of us, and that the first time one of these nuts who've been bringing guns to presidential events actualy pulls his gun and hurts someone, the whole hater movement will take one right on the chin.

I don't think you can take over a major state the way Germany was in the 1920s and 30s. Too much information, too much mobility, too much to lose to the fuhrerprinzip. Not to say these dumb clucks and mean fucks don't give me the willies.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 07:03 AM
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20. Come SIt Here By Me
Edited on Sat Sep-05-09 07:04 AM by NashVegas
We've had at least two counties embarrass themselves by ordering their school districts ixnay participation. I think it's quite possible Dems may gain seats on state and local levels as a result. (Though I'm not necessarily looking forward to that, because of farm issues.)
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